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so in a few months i want to get another snake, i want another hognose. my debate right now is between a western hognose morph, an eastern hognose, a southern hognose, or a tricolor. im so indecisive


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What about a giant hognose? They're awesome but hard to find CB

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What about a giant hognose? They're awesome but hard to find CB

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southerns are hard enough to find CB. only one good breeder in the US as far as i know. theres another project thats starting in florida thats going to be producing some in a few years aswell.


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Just make sure that you can feed whatever you get. (they don't all take mice as well as the Westerns, as far as I know)

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Just make sure that you can feed whatever you get. (they don't all take mice as well as the Westerns, as far as I know)

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they dont. southerns will though and the one breeder is known to start them really well on f/t mice. sometimes they randomly go on strike and it’s recommended to keep a toad in the freezer to scent with, or you can use sardine/tuna juices but toads work better. easterns im not too sure about same with tricolors but thats cause i havent done too much research on them as this is still a few months out


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they dont. southerns will though and the one breeder is known to start them really well on f/t mice. sometimes they randomly go on strike and it’s recommended to keep a toad in the freezer to scent with, or you can use sardine/tuna juices but toads work better. easterns im not too sure about same with tricolors but thats cause i havent done too much research on them as this is still a few months out


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Just wanted to make sure you do your homework first; I've only kept Western hoggies, oh & a black/yellow giant Madagascar hognose, she was amazing & really huge,
very happy on f/t rodents. Never intended to get one of these, but the local pet store got it, not realizing the venom issue & they didn't feel comfortable selling it as a
pet to just anyone...they knew I kept hots, so she pretty much had my name on, lol. I can't speak for bites, as she never bit me, and I didn't have her "forever": when
I moved out of state, I found her another home.

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Just wanted to make sure you do your homework first; I've only kept Western hoggies, oh & a black/yellow giant Madagascar hognose, she was amazing & really huge,
very happy on f/t rodents. Never intended to get one of these, but the local pet store got it, not realizing the venom issue & they didn't feel comfortable selling it as a
pet to just anyone...they knew I kept hots, so she pretty much had my name on, lol. I can't speak for bites, as she never bit me, and I didn't have her "forever": when
I moved out of state, I found her another home.

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ive been talking to pretty much the only southern breeder in the states and getting all my care info from him as there really isnt much about care for them anywhere! but from what i gather southerns are pretty much the exact same care as westerns except open space doesnt bother them as much and the require higher humidity


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ive been talking to pretty much the only southern breeder in the states and getting all my care info from him as there really isnt much about care for them anywhere! but from what i gather southerns are pretty much the exact same care as westerns except open space doesnt bother them as much and the require higher humidity


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One more thing you should do: make sure that one breeder really has a good reliable 'track record'. Some ppl can talk a really good game & when you want something
bad enough, it's easy to convince yourself that they're being straight with you; make sure of his reputation from others. Ask around.

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One more thing you should do: make sure that one breeder really has a good reliable 'track record'. Some ppl can talk a really good game & when you want something
bad enough, it's easy to convince yourself that they're being straight with you; make sure of his reputation from others. Ask around.

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said breeder has been recommended to me by about 10 different people from different sources, all of which have talked him up highly and have purchased from him. also hes been breeding southerns, easterns, and a few other hognose species since the early 2000s if i remember correctly!


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said breeder has been recommended to me by about 10 different people from different sources, all of which have talked him up highly and have purchased from him. also hes been breeding southerns, easterns, and a few other hognose species since the early 2000s if i remember correctly!


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:gj: Exactly what you want in someone you'll buy from.

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said breeder has been recommended to me by about 10 different people from different sources, all of which have talked him up highly and have purchased from him. also hes been breeding southerns, easterns, and a few other hognose species since the early 2000s if i remember correctly!


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For your age I seem to have a good head on you. I was a lot like u when I was young. I like that u ask questions and do your homework before u jump into anything. Most people your age buy it and wait till the animal is about to die before reading anything about how to care for it properly!

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For your age I seem to have a good head on you. I was a lot like u when I was young. I like that u ask questions and do your homework before u jump into anything. Most people your age buy it and wait till the animal is about to die before reading anything about how to care for it properly!

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thank you! unfortunately i learned that lesson when i was 10 and relied only on care sheets when purchasing a redfoot tortoise.. big regret. forums are a much more reliable source. plus recently ive become interested in bioactive which heavily relies on proper care and husbandry so its kinda become second nature to me to learn as much as possible before hand and to cross reference multiple sources to make sure the info is correct. but unfortunately with southerns its really hard given how rare they are in the hobby


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if i get a southern or eastern ill be going through Kevin Fisher, if i get a western morph ill be going through Jeff Galewood (aka JMG Reptiles), tricolor i havent found a breeder or done research as they were just added to the list today


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Yeah imagine how tough it was before the internet...

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Yeah imagine how tough it was before the internet...

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Some of us don't have to "imagine", lol. ;)

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Some of us don't have to "imagine", lol. ;)

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i cant imagine, i dont even care for the social media aspect but all the information that’s available is incredible


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also garter snakes may have been added to this list... TBD


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