Too Much Appetite??

So, Monty is almost 9 months old, weighs approx. 391 grams and is eating 2 adult mice (42-48 grams total) every 6-7 days. Typically, 2 days after feeding, when I walk into the room after dark, he’s cocked, locked & ready to rock. I’ve determined it’s not due to stress because as soon as I open the cage and he realizes I’m not there to feed, he almost immediately relaxes. I can just reach in and pick him up without a hint of aggression.

So, is there such a thing as BP’s wanting to eat TOO much? I’ve been conditioned from day 1 that they’re notorious for being picky eaters, going on strike, etc, which is probably why I’m a bit confused. [emoji12]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a3e98f4991.jpg


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I've heard of them remaining in "feed mode" for up to 48 hours after eating. I've never observed quite that long with my snakes, though. So I can't definitively say that's what you're seeing, but I suppose it could be...

In my opinion, no such thing as wanting too much food. The only issue is if they are offered too much food to be healthy.

I had a banana male I got as a 3 month old last year do exactly that with wanting food way early, or any time. He would and often still does it any day of the week. Whether that is 2 days after eating, the day before eating, the morning after he was fed, and even 30 minutes after eating where he went to hide and digest, then popped out when I walked by with someone else's meal. Needless to say, he is still a fantastic eater at 1.5 years old and over 1,000g. I think he has only refused once in December after he hit 1,000g, we had a cold snap, and he was in shed simultaneously; thought he might try fasting, but grabbed food next feeding without issue.

I am guessing he is just really wired in to the ambush predator instinct, I think. Never pass up a meal, it may be your last for a while and all that. I always just fed him appropriately sized prey weekly and he swapped from the breeder feeding live to his first meal with me as F/T without issue and from mice to rats a few weeks later.

He's also my only BP that will strike a room temp rat; found that out when I opened the tub to scent it better as I heated the rat with a hair dryer near it and he lunged out and almost got me. I put the rat between us to stop a second try for my hand and he took a few seconds to verify it was food and snagged it at about 75 degrees and wet.

I've got another hatchling this year that is shaping up to be a similarly enthusiastic feeder; ironically another male.

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

I've heard of them remaining in "feed mode" for up to 48 hours after eating. I've never observed quite that long with my snakes, though. So I can't definitively say that's what you're seeing, but I suppose it could be...

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Interesting. Wasn't aware of the "feed mode" but it does make sense. Also, he usually does this 7 days a week now. lol He'll come out and literally put his nose against the glass and follow my hand until he realizes I don't have anything, almost like a dog begging for a treat.

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Originally Posted by pretends2bnormal

In my opinion, no such thing as wanting too much food. The only issue is if they are offered too much food to be healthy.

I had a banana male I got as a 3 month old last year do exactly that with wanting food way early, or any time. He would and often still does it any day of the week. Whether that is 2 days after eating, the day before eating, the morning after he was fed, and even 30 minutes after eating where he went to hide and digest, then popped out when I walked by with someone else's meal. Needless to say, he is still a fantastic eater at 1.5 years old and over 1,000g. I think he has only refused once in December after he hit 1,000g, we had a cold snap, and he was in shed simultaneously; thought he might try fasting, but grabbed food next feeding without issue.

I am guessing he is just really wired in to the ambush predator instinct, I think. Never pass up a meal, it may be your last for a while and all that. I always just fed him appropriately sized prey weekly and he swapped from the breeder feeding live to his first meal with me as F/T without issue and from mice to rats a few weeks later.

He's also my only BP that will strike a room temp rat; found that out when I opened the tub to scent it better as I heated the rat with a hair dryer near it and he lunged out and almost got me. I put the rat between us to stop a second try for my hand and he took a few seconds to verify it was food and snagged it at about 75 degrees and wet.

I've got another hatchling this year that is shaping up to be a similarly enthusiastic feeder; ironically another male.

Pics for the fun of it.
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https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...aa41a49d12.jpg

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Ahh yes, so I'm not the only one. Good to know. You've just explained my experience. Monty has struck a room temp. meal before, as well. I'm thinking he's probably staying in "predator instinct" (as you've said), and he's just very opportunistic. <counting my blessings> Hoping he'll be just like yours, always wanting. BTW, your boys are beautiful!

Thanks for taking the time to explain your experience, as it helped.

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Originally Posted by Shayne

Interesting. Wasn't aware of the "feed mode" but it does make sense. Also, he usually does this 7 days a week now. lol He'll come out and literally put his nose against the glass and follow my hand until he realizes I don't have anything, almost like a dog begging for a treat.

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I would just say "enjoy it while it lasts". ;) When we talk about BPs being fussy eaters, it's not usually the youngsters, unless they're being stressed by over-handling
or by being re-homed and fearful.

If yours is digesting well & isn't looking obese or bloated, I'd say he's just a normal young ball python that's growing fast under optimal conditions, & you must be doing
something right, eh? :gj:

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

I would just say "enjoy it while it lasts". ;) When we talk about BPs being fussy eaters, it's not usually the youngsters, unless they're being stressed by over-handling
or by being re-homed and fearful.

If yours is digesting well & isn't looking obese or bloated, I'd say he's just a normal young ball python that's growing fast under optimal conditions, & you must be doing
something right, eh? :gj:

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Thanks! I'll take it. :D

I am a bit of an over-protective 'dad'. lol Seeing my boy thrive just.....makes me happy, so I wanna make sure I'm giving him his best life. Thanks to y'all, I'm steadily learning every day. You guys rock! :partyon::partyon:

My BP is the same way. I fed him last night and he was in hunting mode tonight when I changed his water. I can reach in and get him but if I offered a rat he would take it, no question. He stays like that at least 2 days, relaxes a few days, then he goes into hunting mode again on the 6th day.

I think it’s linked to feeding him prey that is to small. He should be eating small rats but I’m feeding a surplus of weaned rats that I ordered last fall. I always underestimate what he can take as a meal. In your case, I would try converting him to rat pups and then in a few months go to weaned rats. One feeding is MUCH more convenient than 2 mice and it will be easy to convert him if he is always hungry like mine.

Shayne, at least it shouldn't be difficult when you want to switch yours to f/t rat pups. :rat:

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Originally Posted by SVT Wylde

My BP is the same way. I fed him last night and he was in hunting mode tonight when I changed his water. I can reach in and get him but if I offered a rat he would take it, no question. He stays like that at least 2 days, relaxes a few days, then he goes into hunting mode again on the 6th day.

I think it’s linked to feeding him prey that is to small. He should be eating small rats but I’m feeding a surplus of weaned rats that I ordered last fall. I always underestimate what he can take as a meal. In your case, I would try converting him to rat pups and then in a few months go to weaned rats. One feeding is MUCH more convenient than 2 mice and it will be easy to convert him if he is always hungry like mine.

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Makes sense. I’m feeding on the ‘small’ side too. Could easily be what’s going on.

Thanks for the insight! It’s much appreciated.


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I also have one that loves to eat, Piper, my pied. If you get near the cage, if the cage door opens, if somebody else is eating, doesn’t maater....she wants to eat. I’m reasonable sure she thinks she’s a boa because she has none of the finicky issues that bps are known for or that I have in others of my collection.

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Originally Posted by Dianne

I also have one that loves to eat, Piper, my pied. If you get near the cage, if the cage door opens, if somebody else is eating, doesn’t maater....she wants to eat. I’m reasonable sure she thinks she’s a boa because she has none of the finicky issues that bps are known for or that I have in others of my collection.

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I got a guy getting around three years old now. Always hungry, was sure he’d skip some this winter. But he seems to be constantly hungry. Enjoy it while it lasts, lol.

A good problem to have, I'd say.

Just got my big female pastel to start eating after 7 months of fasting... so, yeah, enjoy it while it lasts indeed. :rofl:

My BP's both are fantastic eaters. Both also stay in feed mode for 1-2 days after a meal. I keep my snake hook handy and get them to relax if I want to get them out on the second day. Its actually been almost 3 days since I fed Aspen and he's still locked and ready when I open the top. Once he realizes I don't have food though he backs down. Rei because she's bigger I always make sure to snap out the feed-mode before I get her out or even put my hands near her. Lol.

I too was conditioned about BP's being picky from day 1, but both of mine have done fabulous for me. Aspen switched to F/T without a hitch, he's going to be on rats soon. I have leftover weans I got from an Expo last year, he can eat some of those.
Definitely wouldn't say a very noticeable appetite/feed mode is a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by Dianne

I also have one that loves to eat, Piper, my pied. If you get near the cage, if the cage door opens, if somebody else is eating, doesn’t maater....she wants to eat. I’m reasonable sure she thinks she’s a boa because she has none of the finicky issues that bps are known for or that I have in others of my collection.

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Yes, exactly! It's like everything I've read about a BP's typical behavior doesn't exist with Monty. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely NOT complaining. lol It's been pretty amazing, TBH.

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Originally Posted by ClarinetPhoenix

My BP's both are fantastic eaters. Both also stay in feed mode for 1-2 days after a meal. I keep my snake hook handy and get them to relax if I want to get them out on the second day. Its actually been almost 3 days since I fed Aspen and he's still locked and ready when I open the top. Once he realizes I don't have food though he backs down. Rei because she's bigger I always make sure to snap out the feed-mode before I get her out or even put my hands near her. Lol.

I too was conditioned about BP's being picky from day 1, but both of mine have done fabulous for me. Aspen switched to F/T without a hitch, he's going to be on rats soon. I have leftover weans I got from an Expo last year, he can eat some of those.
Definitely wouldn't say a very noticeable appetite/feed mode is a bad thing.

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Same here. Monty has eaten without a single issue from day 1 (knock on wood). I have about 20 lg. adult mice to finish up then I'm switching him to rats.

Glad to hear yours is doing well.

My Astrid will eat pretty much anything I give her. I have had issues getting appropriately sized rats locally, so sometimes I have to give her 2 mice. She doesn't seem to care about temperature. I have had her from a 60g hatchling, and she is pretty much always looking for food.

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My Astrid will eat pretty much anything I give her. I have had issues getting appropriately sized rats locally, so sometimes I have to give her 2 mice. She doesn't seem to care about temperature. I have had her from a 60g hatchling, and she is pretty much always looking for food.

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Great to know. Hope Monty stays this way. He’s a grubbing machine.


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