Morph Market Question

Simple question....Have any of you ever been suspicious of anyone doctoring their photos on Morph Market?


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I always ask for more photos. Never trust just one photo. I bought a sheep online one time that looked way better in the picture.


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That’s part of what led to my suspicions. I asked for updated pictures and the reply was “I don’t have any.” I asked if the snake really looks like the picture shows. The response was “I feel like the picture is a good representation of how the snake looks.” (I’m paraphrasing here) Just left a bad impression on me.

As a side note, if the snakes the breeder has actually look that way, they are the absolute model of perfection of the morph. Maybe he was being honest and didn’t have another picture. Just wondering if that sort of thing exists in the hobby.


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Red flag....
When I have hatchlings for sale and people ask about more photos than I posted, I tell them they will have to wait until I get home after work. Most people don't mind and understand BUT I have had a couple that popped off about waiting. I dont have have time to deal with self-centered people like that.

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That’s part of what led to my suspicions. I asked for updated pictures and the reply was “I don’t have any.” I asked if the snake really looks like the picture shows. The response was “I feel like the picture is a good representation of how the snake looks.” (I’m paraphrasing here) Just left a bad impression on me.

As a side note, if the snakes the breeder has actually look that way, they are the absolute model of perfection of the morph. Maybe he was being honest and didn’t have another picture. Just wondering if that sort of thing exists in the hobby.


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Considering the money involved & the competition for sales, I think you're right to be suspicious. I have no experience with MM, only with "life" in general. :rolleyes:
So I'd be surprised if all the sellers were reliable...I'd hope that most are, but it's not realistic to think that all of them are. If a seller wants to make a sale, and
especially if it's one of the pricier snakes, they ought to be willing to furnish more & current photos. Just my 2 cents. Trust your gut...

PitOnTheProwl makes a good point though...you have to expect the seller to have a life & be willing to wait a reasonable time for extra photos. There's a big
difference between waiting a while for more photos or having them reject your request.

If someone cannot or or does not want to provide additional pictures, just walk away. Those days everyone has a camera or cell phone or tablet so there is no excuse.

If someone cannot provide pictures it's either

A scam

Or they are using a dropshippers (meaning they know nothing about the animal and it's not in their possession)

Anyone should be able to provide pictures within 24 to 48 hours unless out of town.

I agree...a lot of them are enhanced and have filters on them......additional pictures should be provided in a timely manner... at the end of the day it's MY money you want

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Whenever I buy or sell online, I usually have the breeder take a casual photo on the fly. Like a basic phone photo of them holding the snake up out of the tub.
I also send additional photos to anyone inquiring, as PIT said, it may take me a day or so to get them.


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Simple question....Have any of you ever been suspicious of anyone doctoring their photos on Morph Market?

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Well the simple fact is Morph Market is simply a classified listing venue made up of people of all walks of life that showed ID to prove they are who they say they are.
So it's highly likely that some photos are a bit doctored, that has always happened in the reptile industry and something to keep an eye out for. Some people adjust
photos to try to get them as close to real life as possible, some don't do anything and some may amp up contrast or a hue to really making something pop. Always
buyer beware in any situation and if you feel something may have been doctored, there's never any harm in asking for new or different photos to try to make sure
you're buying what you think you are. If the seller refuses, then take that into consideration before spending hard earned dollars.
Good luck!

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I've been lucky. Everyone that I've bought from has been very cool and more than willing to answer questions and send pictures.

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I've been lucky. Everyone that I've bought from has been very cool and more than willing to answer questions and send pictures.

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I’ve had one seller on there that refused and even argued over why I needed more than the one picture. Needless to say, he will not get my business.


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Was interested in this I found while looking on morph market. But calm down I'm not accussing anybody of adding some color. It's just if it's the actual snake. Man, he has some color. I haven't ask for another pic because for one, I know he is busy. And two, I'm not sure how serious I am about it right now.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4789fd2580.jpg

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I feel like a lot of breeders use photo boxes to attempt to get the color and contrast. Of course they’re going to try to make the color pop so it gets attention. It’d be nice if they had the professional photo and just a normal photo. Although a lot of times cameras have difficulties picking up iridescence and certain colors. Just ask for both and the breeder should be honest with you. I recently bought my BCI on morph market and he looks exactly the same as the photos. I purchased him from PPI if you’re interested.
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Here are some example pictures of my guy. My camera isn’t that great and doesn’t pick up his colors very well. Also lighting can darken colors if you use warm light bulbs in your house. In person he looks exactly like the photo although with even more iridescence. All in all, ask for various photos. There is definitely a lot of trust in the breeder when purchasing online. If they’re hard to work with go to a different breeder.


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samurai, Dynasty is very reputable. Chun produces some excellent animals and I have done business with him in the past. it's hard to get a perfect picture of snake that exactly looks like seeing it in person, but you can be assured that Dynasty is not mis-representing it's animals.

Yeah I doubt that Dynasty is doing anything like what I’m talking about. This particular breeder specializes in one morph that is mostly judged by its black and gray colors. I’ll leave it at that and you all can have a look for yourselves. Feel free to PM me if you happen to find it without anymore info from me. That would be the best way to see if I’m the only one that sees it.


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Yeah I doubt that Dynasty is doing anything like what I’m talking about. This particular breeder specializes in one morph that is mostly judged by its black and gray colors. I’ll leave it at that and you all can have a look for yourselves. Feel free to PM me if you happen to find it without anymore info from me. That would be the best way to see if I’m the only one that sees it.


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This guy the same one that produced a “storm trooper” ??

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This guy the same one that produced a “storm trooper” ??

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No John Dague produced the Storm Trooper. I can vouch for his snakes as I own two of them. When he posts a picture of a white and black SK axanthic, you can bet that it is white and black when you receive it. He is a top notch breeder.


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Axanthics hmm? Don't get me started on those...

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Yeah I’ve bought from Chun @ Dynasty and the snake came looking just like the pic. I have a photo box and it does help the snake look it’s best, but it is still the same snake. When you use an editor I feel that is crossing a line.


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Nowadays it is so easy to take multiple photos, in different lighting even, that I always send and request multiple photos in any online transaction. If a breeder can’t take the time to share more than a single photo to a serious buyer, then screw them.


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I have no problem with people using the best possible light to showcase their animals ( I always find the cameras I have had do best in natural sunlight ) But if someone was using any kind of filter or, heaven forfend, photoshop I'd probably have a bit of an issue with it if it turned out not to be a true repesentation of the animal. The fauna BOI would be the place I would automatically look if I thought things might be slightly remiss though as well as all the usual sources of information.