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  • 02-06-2019, 04:21 PM
    Gio
    Hanging Out.
    Wallace will be 3 years old June 1st.

    He's topping off in growth and is exchanging length for girth. He had a dry shed that measured 10' 5" the other day.

    I suspect he's between 8' 6" to 9+ feet.

    He eats nothing larger than large rats or quail. On this day he actually settled for a medium rat.

    This species is very a rewarding display snake if you can set them up with perches. Retics are far more arboreal than most folks realize.

    He's about 50-50 with perching and laying on the deck.

    https://i.imgur.com/GrYM26O.jpg
  • 02-06-2019, 04:24 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Hanging Out.
    still love that set up so much. Looking good buddy!
  • 02-06-2019, 04:26 PM
    Gio
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    still love that set up so much. Looking good buddy!

    Thanks man!

    I'll have to check out your new critter. I saw the "click bait" thread, now I have to see the real deal!
  • 02-06-2019, 05:26 PM
    RickyNY
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    still love that set up so much. Looking good buddy!

    I agree. That's how I want my Carpet Python set up to look like.
  • 02-06-2019, 05:52 PM
    Gio
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RickyNY View Post
    I agree. That's how I want my Carpet Python set up to look like.

    Why I just happen to have a setup like that for my coastie.

    https://i.imgur.com/bLmapN7.jpg
  • 02-06-2019, 06:43 PM
    Sonny1318
    Very nice! Thanks for sharing!!
  • 02-06-2019, 06:49 PM
    EL-Ziggy
    Re: Hanging Out.
    I love your critters and setups Gio. The lava lamps are a nice touch too :). Where'd you get the large hides?
  • 02-06-2019, 09:13 PM
    Snakeboyaz
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Good looking setup and animal! What size is the enclosure? What are the details on the background? I'm still a year or more from building the forever homes for my retics, probably going to be 7x3x3 and I want to try and do a cool background and make it as natural as i can.
  • 02-07-2019, 12:25 AM
    Gio
    Hi,

    Thanks for the kind words.

    Zig, they call that a tortoise shell hide. I think Petsmart has them but I got mine a Twin Cities Reptile. Our biggest metro reptile shop.

    Snakeboyaz,

    The cage is 6' wide, 30 inches deep and 2 feet tall.

    The backgrounds are from here. https://www.universalrocks.com/fish/backgrounds

    I have 3 cages with backgrounds from this company, but they all were shipped to me by Constrictors NW. Ed Lilley. He was the maker of the Pro-Line cages I have.

    The bottom two here have the backgrounds. The very bottom cage background is fairly flat (the boa cage). The middle cage has the most detailed background with ledges.

    https://i.imgur.com/sJoJw8I.jpg


    Boa cage https://i.imgur.com/Mt0oBuK.jpg

    I was setting up the retic cage here.
    This background is in between the boa and carpet background.

    https://i.imgur.com/5YbiIYx.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/uByQgoa.jpg

    It ended up like this.

    https://i.imgur.com/MhOkmxO.jpg
  • 02-07-2019, 02:54 AM
    jmcrook
    Hanging Out.
    Don’t know why I never inquired with you about where those backgrounds came from. I’ve got so many habitat design ideas now but my only concern is about the background blocking air ventilation slots in my enclosures. Hrmmm...


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  • 02-13-2019, 12:57 AM
    Gio
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    Don’t know why I never inquired with you about where those backgrounds came from. I’ve got so many habitat design ideas now but my only concern is about the background blocking air ventilation slots in my enclosures. Hrmmm...


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    Do you have side vents?

    The Pro-Line cage vents are in the upper corners of the cage (right and left) so I just trim a bit of the background to be lower than the vents.

    It isn't particularly easy because the rubber for these bag rounds is almost like a tire.

    I thought AP had side and rear vents but I could be wrong. If I'm not just cover the rear vents and let the sides do the work.
  • 02-13-2019, 01:45 AM
    jmcrook
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Do you have side vents?

    The Pro-Line cage vents are in the upper corners of the cage (right and left) so I just trim a bit of the background to be lower than the vents.

    It isn't particularly easy because the rubber for these bag rounds is almost like a tire.

    I thought AP had side and rear vents but I could be wrong. If I'm not just cover the rear vents and let the sides do the work.

    I do have side vents. I just like having more circulation than the side vents alone.
    Cutting them wouldn’t be an issue here. I could use the band saw in the sculpture studio on campus and be done in two seconds lol!
    If I do seriously look into doing backgrounds it will probably be for the 4’ cages only just because they’re smaller and don’t have shelves to work around. Not to mention the price for a background in the 8’ cage. That Argentine is going to look astounding in there some day when she’s grown up though


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  • 02-13-2019, 02:26 AM
    Sauzo
    Question on those backgrounds. Think they are durable enough for large digging claws of gilas and beaded? Want to get ledge backgrounds for Dozer and Tank and i dont want them shredding them while climbing all over them. Going to ask the company but figured id pick your brain about them too Gio.
  • 02-13-2019, 09:26 AM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    I do have side vents. I just like having more circulation than the side vents alone.
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    I dont want to get off topic but whats your reasoning for wanting as much circulation as possible? I mean I understand the obvious... but during the winter I actually cover 90% of the vents on my AP enclosures to keep Humidity because my homes dry and I figure the glass sliders have enough space between them to pull enough air in... do you think I could have a problem down the road? So far everyones been ok (Knock on Wood). Im also a Cleaning fanatic.. crap and piss is cleaned the day it occurs.


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  • 02-13-2019, 10:24 AM
    Sauzo
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CALM Pythons View Post
    I dont want to get off topic but whats your reasoning for wanting as much circulation as possible? I mean I understand the obvious... but during the winter I actually cover 90% of the vents on my AP enclosures to keep Humidity because my homes dry and I figure the glass sliders have enough space between them to pull enough air in... do you think I could have a problem down the road? So far everyones been ok (Knock on Wood). Im also a Cleaning fanatic.. crap and piss is cleaned the day it occurs.


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    Too stagnant of air combined with high humidity is a breeding ground for molds, fungi and bacteria. I doubt you will problems down the road. Just stick your head in the cage and see if it smells musty and mildewy.
  • 02-13-2019, 11:04 AM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Too stagnant of air combined with high humidity is a breeding ground for molds, fungi and bacteria. I doubt you will problems down the road. Just stick your head in the cage and see if it smells musty and mildewy.

    Well my Humidity is 56-58% normally and 65% the weeks of shedding. My enclosures are cleaned once a week with F10, walls included... so hopefully im all good. Of course I’m a nut and question myself about these things even after 30 years hahahah


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  • 02-13-2019, 03:19 PM
    Sauzo
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CALM Pythons View Post
    Well my Humidity is 56-58% normally and 65% the weeks of shedding. My enclosures are cleaned once a week with F10, walls included... so hopefully im all good. Of course I’m a nut and question myself about these things even after 30 years hahahah


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    You should be fine. I keep around 70% humidity and do full cage cleanings every month to 1.5 months. The only one that gets kind of funky is Caesar's cage but i swear retics just have a swampy smell to them period lol.
  • 02-13-2019, 04:27 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    You should be fine. I keep around 70% humidity and do full cage cleanings every month to 1.5 months. The only one that gets kind of funky is Caesar's cage but i swear retics just have a swampy smell to them period lol.

    Yup they do... Burms stink terrible too but they don’t go to the bathroom 1/2 as much as Retics.. i just couldnt deal with that.. my BEL piss’s 2-3 times a week and it drives me Nuts.. the Albino once/Twice a month and Burm once a week but 90% of the time he uses the Bathtub so I clean his cage just to disinfect most of the time. I got it pretty easy hahaha


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  • 02-13-2019, 06:56 PM
    Gio
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Question on those backgrounds. Think they are durable enough for large digging claws of gilas and beaded? Want to get ledge backgrounds for Dozer and Tank and i dont want them shredding them while climbing all over them. Going to ask the company but figured id pick your brain about them too Gio.

    Yeah,

    They are really tough. Cutting them is not easy depending on which type you chose.

    I JM won't have a problem cutting them in the studio at all. It took me a while and anybody with a Pro-Line cage will know the vents are pretty small up in the corners. I didn't need to cut much.

    Back to your question, I think you would be fine if you wanted to use one of these.
  • 02-13-2019, 07:23 PM
    jmcrook
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    Yeah,

    They are really tough. Cutting them is not easy depending on which type you chose.

    I JM won't have a problem cutting them in the studio at all. It took me a while and anybody with a Pro-Line cage will know the vents are pretty small up in the corners. I didn't need to cut much.

    Back to your question, I think you would be fine if you wanted to use one of these.

    Are yours fastened to the back of the cage or just free standing?


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  • 02-13-2019, 10:33 PM
    Gio
    Re: Hanging Out.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jmcrook View Post
    Are yours fastened to the back of the cage or just free standing?


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    JM,

    They are screwed into the back of the cage in several areas.

    To disguise the screws I used a caulk similar to the color of the background and then used a little sand in the caulk and it completely blends in.

    I was setting the background up here. If you enlarge the picture you can see all of the screw holes. The backgrounds seem to add a little integrity to the cages.

    https://i.imgur.com/ArXfzsf.jpg

    The carpet background is very detailed with ledges that the snake can actually perch on.
    It is my favorite background.
    https://i.imgur.com/zjpLfk3.jpg
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