Ferret for food?

There is a person who has ferrets for free on Craigslist. Would it be ok to offer to Rainbow? I think she would eat it.

I'll bet she would, but I'd be really careful. Ferrets are weasels with nasty teeth. You may want to euthanize.

Also, there are people out there who will have a moral issue with this as they see ferrets more like pets than as food animals. Not me though. I say snake's gotta eat!

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Originally Posted by JRLongton

I'll bet she would, but I'd be really careful. Ferrets are weasels with nasty teeth. You may want to euthanize.

Also, there are people out there who will have a moral issue with this as they see ferrets more like pets than as food animals. Not me though. I say snake's gotta eat!

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Would not feed live ever. She eats pre-killed just fine.

Ferret teeth are pretty brutal. They also have crazy strong jaws that are strong enough to break a human finger. I don't know that I would risk that with my snakes.

I guess I have to question why as well. There are plenty of food sources out there. Why not just buy actual snake food?

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

Ferret teeth are pretty brutal. They also have crazy strong jaws that are strong enough to break a human finger. I don't know that I would risk that with my snakes.

I guess I have to question why as well. There are plenty of food sources out there. Why not just buy actual snake food?

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Would not feed live.

IDK was thinking might be a treat for her to have something new. She eats a variety now. Rabbits, chicken, quail, rats and GP.

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

There are plenty of food sources out there. Why not just buy actual snake food?

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Because these ferrets are FREE! LOL

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Would not feed live.

IDK was thinking might be a treat for her to have something new. She eats a variety now. Rabbits, chicken, quail, rats and GP.

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??? Giant Pandas???

Just because it's free doesn't mean it's a good option. Just like I'm never going to feed any of mine house mice, city rats, or tree rats (squirrels) even though I kill a lot of them. There is no telling what kind of parasites or infestation the prey animal may have.

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Personally, I could care less what happens to a few rodents but if you take someone's pet Ferret and feed it to your snake I would be more concerned with the media backlash that could potentially follow.....feeding pets to other pets typically doesn't rub people the right way.

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Personally, I could care less what happens to a few rodents but if you take someone's pet Ferret and feed it to your snake I would be more concerned with the media backlash that could potentially follow.....feeding pets to other pets typically doesn't rub people the right way.

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Agreed.

Besides, would the owner know that you plan on using the ferrets as feeders? I'd be pissed if I found out that the pet I thought was going to a loving home was actually used as snake food. Don't get me wrong- I know that snakes need to eat and I have no problem feeding my ball python her f/t rats. But I would never go on craigslist and "adopt" rats just to turn around and feed them to my snake. I think that is unfair to the previous owner. If you are going to go through with it I think you should be clear about your intentions.

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Originally Posted by JRLongton

Because these ferrets are FREE! LOL

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Are they someone's pets?? If so I would not. It's just not right.

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Originally Posted by FollowTheSun

Are they someone's pets?? If so I would not. It's just not right.

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I have to agree with this chief. Time for the OP to do another painting.

Please don't be one of those people who picked up free pets just to use them as food. I don't even know what else to say about that. Yea, it is food, but what is wrong with feeders bred for that reason? A domesticated pet raised as a pet learns to trust people and seek people's attention and companionship. To betray that trust just so you want to feed it out of curiosity...

I thought it went without saying that Skyrivers is a decent and respectful person who could be trusted to do the right thing.

Of course he would tell the person the fate of the ferret, as would anyone on this forum.

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I thought it went without saying that Skyrivers is a decent and respectful person who could be trusted to do the right thing.

Of course he would tell the person the fate of the ferret, as would anyone on this forum.

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Still, doing the right thing would be to NOT feed a pet to a snake. Come on, man!

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Originally Posted by MR Snakes

Still, doing the right thing would be to NOT feed a pet to a snake. Come on, man!

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Of course, but who said the ferret is a pet? There are lots of fools out there who breed animals either unintentionally (they have a male and female housed together and nature takes its course) or even bigger fools who think they can just up and start breeding animals.

Not looking to garner any ill will here, but personally I don't see ferrets as being any more pets than are rats, mice, chickens, or GPs. Its not like we're talking cats or dogs here, which of course are a totally different thing.

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Of course, but who said the ferret is a pet? There are lots of fools out there who breed animals either unintentionally (they have a male and female housed together and nature takes its course) or even bigger fools who think they can just up and start breeding animals.

Not looking to garner any ill will here, but personally I don't see ferrets as being any more pets than are rats, mice, chickens, or GPs. Its not like we're talking cats or dogs here, which of course are a totally different thing.

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Now, now. Jumping to conclusions is what I do best.:taz::taz::taz:

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Of course, but who said the ferret is a pet? There are lots of fools out there who breed animals either unintentionally (they have a male and female housed together and nature takes its course) or even bigger fools who think they can just up and start breeding animals.

Not looking to garner any ill will here, but personally I don't see ferrets as being any more pets than are rats, mice, chickens, or GPs. Its not like we're talking cats or dogs here, which of course are a totally different thing.

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Have you ever been around a pet ferret? They do bond with you and are truly pets. I had a couple of great pet rats as a kid, even taught them tricks. And my daughter has a pet chicken that actually will sit in her lap and beg for head scritchies and purr! (yes chickens purr)

If an animal is not a pet, has no bonding/trust with people, then yes it can be food.

By the way, a lot of people in other countries eat dogs and horses . . . maybe even cats ...

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

...I guess I have to question why as well. There are plenty of food sources out there. Why not just buy actual snake food?

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Besides the "variety"aspect & being "free", they probably have issues (health, age or attitudes) that make them not salable as pets...just my hunch.
They might have just been 'breeders' in a ferret mill that weren't socialized, who knows? Or expensive health issues the owner is shirking.

I think I'd try to find out though...if they're truly good pets, I wouldn't. If not, go for it. Ferrets can be delightful (if destructive) pets, or just be "weasels". :rolleyes:

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Of course, but who said the ferret is a pet? There are lots of fools out there who breed animals either unintentionally (they have a male and female housed together and nature takes its course) or even bigger fools who think they can just up and start breeding animals.

Not looking to garner any ill will here, but personally I don't see ferrets as being any more pets than are rats, mice, chickens, or GPs. Its not like we're talking cats or dogs here, which of course are a totally different thing.

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Most ferrets in a typical household are purchased are desexed prior to purchase. There are many reasons for this including the fear that they escape (They are great at that), breed and wreak havoc on the local wildlife population as well as spreading disease. The chances of a backyard breeder like dogs for ferrets practically close to nil. Finding an unwanted litter of ferrets is unheard of.

Almost all ferrets offered in ads like this are personal keepers who no longer have the time or desire to care for them. They are difficult pets to keep and constantly relinquished to shelters and rescues.

Cats and dogs are domesticated for varying degrees as well as the amount of time it took. That does not mean any other pets are less valued. A golden hamster started ts domestication since its wild capture around 1930's. The bunny is theorized to have started its domesticaton because religion labeled bunny meat as fish so they can be eaten on Sundays about 300-500 years ago. I can go on but having owned all 4 of these species, their difference lie in what they are, and for the rest they do seek their owner's attention and bond with them.

I don't mind if the ferret was born and raised as a feeder as much as rats, bunnies and chickens are. But the ones we call pets were socialized and taught them that we are their shelter. There has to be a line somewhere when you feed a pet away just because.

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Have you ever been around a pet ferret? They do bond with you and are truly pets. I had a couple of great pet rats as a kid, even taught them tricks. And my daughter has a pet chicken that actually will sit in her lap and beg for head scritchies and purr! (yes chickens purr)

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I've been around ferrets understand that almost any animal can be a pet.

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If an animal is not a pet, has no bonding/trust with people, then yes it can be food.

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I think this is an excellent point and fully agree. It does seem like a betrayal to take an even partially socialized animal and make it food.

Though, again, we don't know what the deal is with the ferrets in question, and I remain convinced that the OP would act appropriately.

I think quite a few of you here are making "The List".

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I think quite a few of you here are making "The List".

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There's a List?! Yikes. Nobody told me! That's it, I'm gonna be quiet from now on!

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I think quite a few of you here are making "The List".

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I don't understand ..can you spell out what you mean?

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

There is a person who has ferrets for free on Craigslist. Would it be ok to offer to Rainbow? I think she would eat it.

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well this is just a bunch a red flags.


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Personally, I could care less what happens to a few rodents but if you take someone's pet Ferret and feed it to your snake I would be more concerned with the media backlash that could potentially follow.....feeding pets to other pets typically doesn't rub people the right way.

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Agreed.

Besides, would the owner know that you plan on using the ferrets as feeders? I'd be pissed if I found out that the pet I thought was going to a loving home was actually used as snake food. Don't get me wrong- I know that snakes need to eat and I have no problem feeding my ball python her f/t rats. But I would never go on craigslist and "adopt" rats just to turn around and feed them to my snake. I think that is unfair to the previous owner. If you are going to go through with it I think you should be clear about your intentions.

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totes agreement. also I’ve seen online ads for small mammal adoptions (puppies, kittens, ferrets, GP’s, etc.) w/ disclaimers that say they are not for use as snake foods. this just feeds into the stereotypes against our animals and community. Snake reports wsp. Those w/ (large) constrictors shouldn’t not feed into that. let’s try not to cruise CL for these things.

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There's a List?! Yikes. Nobody told me! That's it, I'm gonna be quiet from now on!

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There are many lists. And I'm at the head of most of them!

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I don't understand ..can you spell out what you mean?

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I don't even know what I mean.

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well this is just a bunch a red flags.

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This^^^^^

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There's a List?! Yikes. Nobody told me! That's it, I'm gonna be quiet from now on!

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oh don’t worry about Mr Snakes. Contrary to his name, he doesn’t own a snake and his posts are rarely helpful.

I wanna make the list, or is this one of those don’t get off topic threads ? ;)

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oh don’t worry about Mr Snakes. Contrary to his name, he doesn’t own a snake and his posts are rarely helpful.

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Oh but they are getting more helpful with knowledge. And for the last time, it's NOT Mr. Snakes! It's MR. If it was Mr. then I would've written it correctly! My name must be so far above most, that no one has even figured it out.:taz:

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I wanna make the list, or is this one of those don’t get off topic threads ? ;)

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Now we can reserve you a spot but you have to earn your way on.

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...And for the last time, it's NOT Mr. Snakes! It's MR. If it was Mr. then I would've written it correctly! My name must be so far
above most, that no one has even figured it out.:taz:...

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No...it's pretty much apathy on our part. :D

I’m confused, is this for the list or the ferret ? I’m thinking I wanna be on a list of ferrets. This reminds me, I gotta defrost some mice.

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Originally Posted by Kira

Agreed.

Besides, would the owner know that you plan on using the ferrets as feeders? I'd be pissed if I found out that the pet I thought was going to a loving home was actually used as snake food. Don't get me wrong- I know that snakes need to eat and I have no problem feeding my ball python her f/t rats. But I would never go on craigslist and "adopt" rats just to turn around and feed them to my snake. I think that is unfair to the previous owner. If you are going to go through with it I think you should be clear about your intentions.

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This. It's best not to be deceitful or you'll give more news for PETA to scream about. There should be a line between feeding animals that were clearly born and bred to be feeders vs an animal that was raised as a pet.

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...There should be a line between feeding animals that were clearly born and bred to be feeders vs an animal that was raised as a pet.

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I mostly agree, but it's a big gray area for animals raised & intended as pets that for other reasons are unsuitable- physical or temperament defects, for example.

Another thing just crossed my (suspicious) mind about these "free ferrets"- their owner might be a federal worker or contractor who's been laid off & cannot afford
to keep their pets. So for SURE I'd want to know WHY they're giving them away? If it's truly for a better home or what? It's hard to get the truth from some people-
they often say 'allergies' when really a pet is just destroying their house. Or because they cannot afford needed medical care.

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No...it's pretty much apathy on our part. :D

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There you go using big words again.

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I’m confused, is this for the list or the ferret ? I’m thinking I wanna be on a list of ferrets. This reminds me, I gotta defrost some mice.

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I will make sure you are on the ferret list. Right behind the OP.

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I mostly agree, but it's a big gray area for animals raised & intended as pets that for other reasons are unsuitable- physical or temperament defects, for example.

Another thing just crossed my (suspicious) mind about these "free ferrets"- their owner might be a federal worker or contractor who's been laid off & cannot afford
to keep their pets. So for SURE I'd want to know WHY they're giving them away? If it's truly for a better home or what? It's hard to get the truth from some people-
they often say 'allergies' when really a pet is just destroying their house. Or because they cannot afford needed medical care.

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Regardless of why they are giving the ferrets away, I highly doubt they would be fine with them being fed to a giant snake. People give free pets away all the time so I don't see that as a red flag at all. My first dog was a 6 month old golden retriever that was given up to a shelter by her previous owners. The owners didn't get any money of course and there were no behavioral or medical issues with the dog. They kept in contact with my family for the first few months to check up on her. Some people just bite off more than they can chew when it comes to pets and like I said- that doesn't mean that they are okay with their pet being used as a feeder.

Bottom line is: He should be completely clear with his intentions. The owners have the right to know what's going to happen to their former pets.

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Regardless of why they are giving the ferrets away, I highly doubt they would be fine with them being fed to a giant snake. People give free pets away all the time so I don't see that as a red flag at all. My first dog was a 6 month old golden retriever that was given up to a shelter by her previous owners. The owners didn't get any money of course and there were no behavioral or medical issues with the dog. They kept in contact with my family for the first few months to check up on her. Some people just bite off more than they can chew when it comes to pets and like I said- that doesn't mean that they are okay with their pet being used as a feeder.

Bottom line is: He should be completely clear with his intentions. The owners have the right to know what's going to happen to their former pets.

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I'd imagine there are also ferret rescues around, maybe someone should tell these people about a safer option (other than "free ads").

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I mostly agree, but it's a big gray area for animals raised & intended as pets that for other reasons are unsuitable- physical or temperament defects, for example.

Another thing just crossed my (suspicious) mind about these "free ferrets"- their owner might be a federal worker or contractor who's been laid off & cannot afford
to keep their pets. So for SURE I'd want to know WHY they're giving them away? If it's truly for a better home or what? It's hard to get the truth from some people-
they often say 'allergies' when really a pet is just destroying their house. Or because they cannot afford needed medical care.

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So based on your logic, you're suggesting if a pet has developed a physical or behavioral defect it makes it more acceptable for it to be given away as pet food?

It's one thing say, if an animal was bred with the intention of being a pet but had a fatal birth defect or was still born, and was given away BEFORE it was placed in a pet enviroment (intention should still be disclosed).

It's another if that animal with a defect, say a one legged dog or one eyed ferret was RAISED in a pet environment and experienced bonding but developed some behavior issues and then the owner decides they want to rehome it.

Does that mean the owner is okay with their "defective" pet being fed off? Most likely HECK NO. Doesn't matter if other people are okay with it, if the owner did not CONSENT to their pet being given away for the purpose of being fed off then it shouldn't matter if the pet was later deemed "defective".

Point of the matter is, and I'll again agree with Kira again because she worded everything wonderfully, the intention must first and foremost be clear, always, even if it means getting turned down. There is too much backlash if people try to get these free feeder animals under the false pretense of "adoption." Frankly I think it's despicable.

There's many variables...a ferret might be free because it bites everyone, who knows? Many people giving away free animals do not disclose the whole story either.
Should they? Yes, but many don't, fearing they'll be stuck with the animal. Should those "adopters" disclose their intentions: yes, of course...but many won't and
those placing free ads ought to realize that too.

I'm at work and didn't read through this whole thread, so if I'm repeating something I apologize...

Another thought is that ferrets also get shots for distemper, and other things. I'd be concerned about what types of shots, medications, etc....the ferrets may have been given and wouldn't trust feeding that to my snake.

And I'll be honest, if I found out I rehomed my pets and they were fed off as prey I would beat the everloving bag out of the person who did that. I would happily take the A&B charge on that one.

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I'm at work and didn't read through this whole thread, so if I'm repeating something I apologize...

Another thought is that ferrets also get shots for distemper, and other things. I'd be concerned about what types of shots, medications, etc....the ferrets may have been given and wouldn't trust feeding that to my snake.

And I'll be honest, if I found out I rehomed my pets and they were fed off as prey I would beat the everloving bag out of the person who did that. I would happily take the A&B charge on that one.

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OK, sounds like someone needs to take their afternoon break about now.:colbert:

What’s next free kitten, free puppy?

While food is food and we on a daily basis feed rats and mice that other owner perceive as pet just like some BP owner see their BP as pet and some ophiophagous owners that see them as food there are lines I would personally never cross whether it’s a hamster, rat, rabbit, ferret, chicken or a snake.

First I would look at whether the owner of the animal placed on CL see that animal as a pet or as a feeder.

For example if someone place a rat as a pet on CL it would never cross my mind to get that animal and lie to them when all they wanted to do is give a second chance to a pet they could no longer keep for whatever reason (that is my moral compass dictating my actions). So why not it's just a rat? Well because 1# I don't lie, 2# While I never had to surrender an animal or put an animal for adoption I can imagine what it would be to have to do it.

Now if the same rat is considered a feeder it’s a different story.

Lines I would not cross even if they were considered feeders is feed a kitten or a puppy, again MY morals come into play here.

On the top of one’s personal morals there is also the public view and while I do not care what people think of me, I do care about representing this hobby in a positive manner.

What if you listed your retic free because you could no longer care for it and someone came and got it and you found out later own they have a restaurant and your snake was turned into a 2 course meal.


Oh and please stay on topic the hijack and useless comments from some are getting old especially when it goes on in about every thread, this forum is not having a high post count/popularity contest <------ It's green so it's an official request.

I wouldn’t feed that due to not knowing what’s the history of the animal is. And many more reasons that doesn’t really matter to this post.

To put the shoe on the other foot, it would be like one of us offering to re-home one of our pet snakes & finding out that the "adopter" wanted cobra food. :O :tears:

:O:O:O I really hope you don't do this!!! I have a ball python and 2 ferrets living in my household and honestly the thought of someone feeding ferrets to their snake really upsets me! Ferrets are incredibly intelligent and friendly animals that form bonds with humans. On top of that as far as animals go I think they are better compared to dogs and cats than mice and rats. They are not rodents. In America they are sold desexed, if that helps paint a picture that they are PETS. Nobody would take the time to spay and neuter feeder animals. They also have a life-span of up to 10 years, which is more than some breeds of dogs! Mice and rats rarely live over 2 years.

I also doubt a snake would even take a ferret as food? Like I said, they are not rodents. They are closely related to weasels and other animals like that. They smell nothing like a rodent, instead having a musky smell. And in the wild weasels and other animals related to the ferret like the mongoose actually hunt and kill snakes, so honestly I really don't think a snake would take it as food. Let me just say, if I put my ferrets and my ball python against each other the ferrets would quickly kill him. They are PREDATORS of snakes!

I think it would be very cruel to buy a ferret that is 99% likely to be a pet (Free ferrets? Definitely not from a breeder. And who else keeps ferrets other than pet-owners?), kill it, and then leave it for a snake that would most likely not recognize it as food. (Also I'm not sure what kind of snake you'd plan to feed it to, but ferrets might be bigger than you think they are. They vary in size but some grow to almost the size of a cat! Just Google "big ferret" and you'll see some pictures of some real chonkers! Especially right now in winter when they get some extra chub to keep them warm, lol.)

I feel like I have some valid info about ferrets since I actually own them and reptiles, so I really hope you listen to all the people who are saying that you shouldn't do this! Ferrets are such friendly and human-dependent animals. They aren't like feeder animals which are bred to not really care for humans, bred to not be at the same standard as pets, bred basically just to be food. Ferrets are bred to be pets, companions, and family just like dogs and cats.

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There is a person who has ferrets for free on Craigslist. Would it be ok to offer to Rainbow? I think she would eat it.

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I think the thread has answered this quite categorically but No.

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:O:O:O I really hope you don't do this!!! I have a ball python and 2 ferrets living in my household and honestly the thought of someone feeding ferrets to their snake really upsets me! Ferrets are incredibly intelligent and friendly animals that form bonds with humans. On top of that as far as animals go I think they are better compared to dogs and cats than mice and rats. They are not rodents. In America they are sold desexed, if that helps paint a picture that they are PETS. Nobody would take the time to spay and neuter feeder animals. They also have a life-span of up to 10 years, which is more than some breeds of dogs! Mice and rats rarely live over 2 years.

I also doubt a snake would even take a ferret as food? Like I said, they are not rodents. They are closely related to weasels and other animals like that. They smell nothing like a rodent, instead having a musky smell. And in the wild weasels and other animals related to the ferret like the mongoose actually hunt and kill snakes, so honestly I really don't think a snake would take it as food. Let me just say, if I put my ferrets and my ball python against each other the ferrets would quickly kill him. They are PREDATORS of snakes!

I think it would be very cruel to buy a ferret that is 99% likely to be a pet (Free ferrets? Definitely not from a breeder. And who else keeps ferrets other than pet-owners?), kill it, and then leave it for a snake that would most likely not recognize it as food. (Also I'm not sure what kind of snake you'd plan to feed it to, but ferrets might be bigger than you think they are. They vary in size but some grow to almost the size of a cat! Just Google "big ferret" and you'll see some pictures of some real chonkers! Especially right now in winter when they get some extra chub to keep them warm, lol.)

I feel like I have some valid info about ferrets since I actually own them and reptiles, so I really hope you listen to all the people who are saying that you shouldn't do this! Ferrets are such friendly and human-dependent animals. They aren't like feeder animals which are bred to not really care for humans, bred to not be at the same standard as pets, bred basically just to be food. Ferrets are bred to be pets, companions, and family just like dogs and cats.

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I have 4 ferrets as well. You made a lot of good points.

...and honestly, how freaking cute are they?!?! They're a LOT of work, but tons of fun. I turned a 4x6x6 closet into their enclosure. It's full of ramps, tunnels, a dig box, and stuff to climb and a few spots to sleep.
They love it. Those little goofballs. They all look so funny with their winter weight and fur. Little chubbos!

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I have 4 ferrets as well. You made a lot of good points.

...and honestly, how freaking cute are they?!?! They're a LOT of work, but tons of fun. I turned a 4x6x6 closet into their enclosure. It's full of ramps, tunnels, a dig box, and stuff to climb and a few spots to sleep.
They love it. Those little goofballs. They all look so funny with their winter weight and fur. Little chubbos!

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I almost bought one, many years ago. Terribly tempting. But it wasn't the right time & place, & I was going to be moving again within a year.
Besides, I had two chipmunks* for entertainment & chaos... (*legally, not w/c or native, & long story!)

It's not something I would ever consider.

I don’t know if this was brought up or if it’s relevant (Deb please don’t smash me). Ferrets are awesome pets, I had one growing up as a kid named him Walter. He swam in the tub hid stuff in couch cushions and was generally mischevious and hilarious. So I’m on the nope train with this one.

it appears this was brought up but ohhh well

I had a ferret a long time ago. They're a little stinky, okay a lot. And he was a very hyper crazy little beast. He just wanted to play. I had him for years. I forgot the kind, with a “M” tattoo on his ear or something, he was “white” one. Big multi level cage, he was a terror, but in a very good way. Just wanted to run and rough house. Yeah lotta valid points made here. I’ve seen many a picture of a reticulated python at market being sold as common as chicken. ;) This isn’t another stay on point is it?