Help with more heat issues please.

Hello, It's me again. I'm getting close to the right temps in both my snakes habitats. I was worried that they were too hot and it turns out that they are not even close according to my new heat gun. I was terrified that they were too hot and it turned out they were very cold. I have the heating pad up all the way and it's still not there. I want to add a lamp that will give more heat but I need two pieces of information. What wattage should I get and what color should I get? I understand that snakes see some colors and it kind of concerns me that it would irritate them with some. Should I have two bulbs with different colors to simulate day and night? Should the temps vary at all between day and night?

Thank you for your help in advance.

A ceramic heat emitter will be your best best for supplemental heat. No lights or anything is preferable. Remember ball pythons live their lives in termite mounds they only come out to feed and breed. Yes night time drops are perfectly normal, just remember that ideal temps are as follow, 90 on the warm side and 80 ambient through out the enclosure. What kind of enclosure are you using? If it’s a tub I’ll wait for someone that uses them to chime in because I have all 7 of my snakes in glass tanks. If it’s a tank your using, ensure that the heat mat is on the outside and that the glass temp from the inside reads 90. Not substrate temp, because that means the glass temp will be well into the 100s and when they burrow to the glass (and they will) they will burn them selfs and cause some seriously problems or kill themselves.


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This is how I heat my tank sorry for the poop but don’t have another pic of where I have heat mat.

I hate a heat mat inside the tank (inside a thin glass encloser I made for mat) this stops snake sitting direct on it. I have probe set to 28 degrees Celsius, I then have a CHE slightly to left of hide so heat is not direct going on top of hide I have this set to 26 degrees the combined heat sources give his hot spot a nice 30-31 degrees Celsius and a ambient air temp of 26 degrees on warm side and 24 cool side.


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Forgot to add CHE do dry up the air a lot but my viv holds humidity well my sensors are at 55-60 percent and I haven’t misted in about a week. Ignore that stick on piece of rubbish I have proper probes on both side now


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Analog readers are trash, really invest in a digital one. Much more accurate. Also heat mats should never be on the inside. How are you regulating the heat mat?


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Analog readers are trash, really invest in a digital one. Much more accurate. Also heat mats should never be on the inside. How are you regulating the heat mat?


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ignore the stick on ones I have 2 heat probes inside, the Matt is regulated with a Matt stat the mat is inside a glass enclosure that I made so it works exactly the same as it was under a tank which is perfectly fine as the snake cannot directly lay on the mat.


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I made it so I could safely put a mat inside due the enclosure being made of wood it would not work outside the enclosure due to thermal blocking.


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Ohhhhh I misunderstood, got it


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Ok, I see the definite positives for the ceramic heat emitters. Now, what size should I get? I see 60W, 75W, and 100W. My enclosures are glass and one is a 20 gallon long [30x12x12] and the other is a 30 [36x18x12].

You all are awesome with your help!!! :):snake::snake:

I have all digital thermometers. The heat mats are outside the tanks on the end and I have the probe between the mat and the bottom of the glass that are connected to thermostats. I also have a temp gun and check with that several times a day. The thermostats are at their highest but it's still not high enough when I check with a heat gun. I do find that the heat gun is very close to the temp that I have a probe under the glass in the middle so it leads me to believe it's pretty accurate. Much better than the thermostat.

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I have all digital thermometers. The heat mats are outside the tanks on the end and I have the probe between the mat and the bottom of the glass that are connected to thermostats. I also have a temp gun and check with that several times a day. The thermostats are at their highest but it's still not high enough when I check with a heat gun. I do find that the heat gun is very close to the temp that I have a probe under the glass in the middle so it leads me to believe it's pretty accurate. Much better than the thermostat.

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What thermostat are you using that won’t allow you to go any higher? Where are you located? I know many people up north have issues with heating because of the weather, I live in central Florida so I have more of an upper hand [emoji23]
Also not completely sure for wattage for the Che, try 75 and if that’s not enough go up, it’s gonna depend on ur rooms ambient and location.


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I keep the house temps at 68. I live in GA. The thermostats are Century Digital Heat Mat Thermostat Regulator. It's exactly the same as most all the others that I have seen. The difference is that the thermostats measure the temp as one thing but when I use the heat gun it is waaaay lower. And that is the same with both tanks.

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I keep the house temps at 68. I live in GA. The thermostats are Century Digital Heat Mat Thermostat Regulator. It's exactly the same as most all the others that I have seen. The difference is that the thermostats measure the temp as one thing but when I use the heat gun it is waaaay lower. And that is the same with both tanks.

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Are you measuring at the substrate, as the heat has to pass up through the tank through the glass and substrate, most people usually set the stat higher to get desired temps inside.


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Yup. That's what I do. Measure the top of the substrate in many places and the temp on the mat, according to the thermostats, is 108. Even though they are measuring on the thermostat, as higher. The smaller tank is now 89 inside his hide, measured by the heat gun aimed right inside the hide doorway and top of the substrate, as well as around the hide. The bigger tank is only 78 measured in the same places. Now, last night and early this morning both were lower than that.

Probably worth going with a emitter also my mat alone doesn’t reach the desired temps for hot spot.

If u go emitter route will be a case of trial and error as u need to get a nice balance.

For example if I set my emitter couple degrees higher hotspot shoots up to 35-37 degrees .

I will post some pics later how I have mine set up to the pulse stat


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Ignore the tape I’m reclipping it as the old stat died and I broke the clip removing it

So I have my probe at back

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Temps was 92 degrees dropped due to me opening cage, Fahrenheit as a lot of you Americans use that is with my che set at 75.2 Fahrenheit as the temp reaches the floor first in my setup so the floor gets hotter than ambient

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That’s the chart showing it’s at constant 24 at probe

Then near by I have humidity and temp sensor

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That’s just how I get my snake at right temps and why I don’t have the che directly above the hide in my tank ( will differ as different tanks have different heights etc)


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That would be great, Jaimiekerk! What watt is yours?

25 watt as they do pump out a lot of heat, it all depends on enclosure size my enclosure is long but no mega tall so the heat quickly gets to ground level.

It isn’t the gospel my friend is a qualified herp vet she helped me set everything up and he thrives, no food issues no stuck shed issues.




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