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  • 12-16-2018, 09:33 PM
    tttaylorrr
    went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
  • 12-16-2018, 09:39 PM
    Dianne
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    And who’s in the bag? :D
  • 12-16-2018, 09:39 PM
    hilabeans
    What did you do!?!?!?!?
  • 12-16-2018, 09:40 PM
    MR Snakes
    What's in the bag?
  • 12-16-2018, 09:52 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    And who’s in the bag? :D

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hilabeans View Post
    What did you do!?!?!?!?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MR Snakes View Post
    What's in the bag?

    alright alright.

    first off: there's two bags. [emoji6]

    and second: nothing crazy, but still exciting!

    i'll tell ya, but ONLY if i can get the forum to help me name them! honestly i'm running out of ideas hahaha. if you know anything about my snake's names, they're obviously very original and very regal lol.
  • 12-16-2018, 09:54 PM
    Dianne
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    alright alright.

    first off: there's two bags. [emoji6]

    and second: nothing crazy, but still exciting!

    i'll tell ya, but ONLY if i can get the forum to help me name them! honestly i'm running out of ideas hahaha. if you know anything about my snake's names, they're obviously very original and very regal lol.

    Aaahhhh! How can you tease us but not post pictures! LOL
  • 12-16-2018, 09:56 PM
    Sunnieskys
    Where are the pics :(
  • 12-16-2018, 10:10 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    so here's my 0.1 Black Pastel 100% het Pied from Matt Marberg here in Chicago. her pattern is insane IMO.

    breeder photos:
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...03703519dc.jpg

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dbfcf90396.jpg

    my photos:
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4f8e9a2f34.jpg

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4bacd32295.jpg

    she's a hissy little thing!!! i love when they're like that tho. [emoji4]

    and here's a 1.0 Pastel Bamboo from Savage City Pythons, also here in Chicago! this little guy is very in blue right now!
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...54d0b4985a.jpg

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...adaf90fc7d.jpg

    already exploring his QT tub:
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d257e41548.jpg

    both of these breeders i was already in talks with through MM, but Savage City being there and actually having the Pastel Bamboo i was asking him about was a surprise!!! seeing him in person, i just couldn't walk away...

    so i walked away with two. i have plans for both of these beautiful babies: the 0.1 B.Pastel is the first addition to my "dark" project(s) and the Pastel Bamboo is actually just a pure hobby project. ive always loved the base morph Bamboo, but at NARBC last Oct i saw a Bamboo Pewter poss Sterling and was READY to drop 1K on her; go google a Bamboo Sterling they're incredible.

    kinda sucks having animals in QT again but, eh, it gets easier and less stressful every time.

    [emoji4]
  • 12-16-2018, 10:14 PM
    hilabeans
    Oh, they are beautiful. Congratulations on the new babies!!!
  • 12-16-2018, 10:14 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    here she is! sound ON for full effect.

    https://streamable.com/6a1fo

    EDIT: ignore my cooing lol
  • 12-16-2018, 10:18 PM
    Dianne
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Gorgeous new additions! I love the pattern on the black pastel, but that bamboo...wow! From the show photos you have shared, it’s a good thing I live nowhere near there. :rolleyes:
  • 12-16-2018, 10:21 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    Gorgeous new additions! I love the pattern on the black pastel, but that bamboo...wow! From the show photos you have shared, it’s a good thing I live nowhere near there. :rolleyes:

    dude i have NARBC and the Scott Smith Expo ~30min away from me...it's awful lol (not).

    EDIT: he's currently very blue so i can't wait to see his true colors!!!
  • 12-16-2018, 10:21 PM
    Dianne
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    here she is! sound ON for full effect.

    https://streamable.com/6a1fo

    EDIT: ignore my cooing lol

    Oh that is too cute...including the cooing. :D

    Sabrina (Mojave) was the same way for the first week and a half that I had her. All I had to do was open the door to the quarantine cage and you would hear hissing from under the hide.
  • 12-16-2018, 10:24 PM
    Dianne
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    dude i have NARBC and the Scott Smith Expo ~30min away from me...it's awful lol (not).

    EDIT: he's currently very blue so i can't wait to see his true colors!!!

    Chicago is 12-13 hours from me...I checked. LOL
  • 12-16-2018, 10:32 PM
    Godzilla78
    Congrats on joining the exclusive Bamboo club! 😉
  • 12-16-2018, 10:34 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Godzilla78 View Post
    Congrats on joining the exclusive Bamboo club! [emoji6]

    haha yay, im so excited!!! what plans do you have for Bamboo? im so looking forward to mine!
  • 12-16-2018, 10:37 PM
    Godzilla78
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    haha yay, im so excited!!! what plans do you have for Bamboo? im so looking forward to mine!

    Bamboo leopard pastel,
    bamboo orange dream pinstripes,
    Bamboo ghi pastel,
    plus all the other less fantastic odds.
  • 12-16-2018, 10:39 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Godzilla78 View Post
    Bamboo leopard pastel,
    bamboo orange dream pinstripes,
    Bamboo ghi pastel,
    plus all the other less fantastic odds.

    exciting!

    i saw your post a bit ago about your first locks. congrats btw!!! looking forward to your progress!

    EDIT: im hoping my first pairing is next season!
  • 12-16-2018, 10:49 PM
    WhompingWillow
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    First, gorgeous new additions! So happy you got your Bamboo, and that Black Pastel is niiice 👌

    How do you like the Scott Smith Expo? I've been to the one he occasionally puts on in IN and was underwhelmed, but I'm thinking the regular one in IL is a bigger show? It's only about an hour from me, so I've been debating whether to check it out.

    Also, our Cinnamon Enchi is from Mark Petros. Super nice guy with some awesome snakes. It's cool that it seems like there are some awesome vendors at the show in Wheaton! Not that I need any more snakes, lol.
  • 12-16-2018, 10:54 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    First, gorgeous new additions! So happy you got your Bamboo, and that Black Pastel is niiice [emoji108]

    How do you like the Scott Smith Expo? I've been to the one he occasionally puts on in IN and was underwhelmed, but I'm thinking the regular one in IL is a bigger show? It's only about an hour from me, so I've been debating whether to check it out.

    Also, our Cinnamon Enchi is from Mark Petros. Super nice guy with some awesome snakes. It's cool that it seems like there are some awesome vendors at the show in Wheaton! Not that I need any more snakes, lol.

    LOVE it. it has a way more "hobby" feel instead of big names with big prices like NARBC. here EVERYONE wants to chat and learn and share. there are a LOT of kids at this show tho, and i will just state that fact as is.

    the IN one is new i think so it doesn't have the same exposure as the IL one yet. please keep supporting it tho, as im sure it will get better! i know quite a few of the vendors at the IL show are actually from IN but they've never had the opportunity to do a show like this before, hence the new IN show (my crested gecko was adopted from an animal rescue from IN who i knew through the expo!).

    EDIT: Mark is a great guy. i talked to him today but unfortunately i had made all my purchases. i told him ive been keeping an eye on him tho. [emoji6]
  • 12-16-2018, 11:31 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    some small stories from the show:

    at the Pangea Reptile counter: i happened to walk by the purchase counter and overheard a lady asking why she couldn't find heat rocks. i literally couldn't help but scrunch up my face and the guy behind the table obviously noticed lol. he proceeded to tell the lady they were notoriously dangerous and pretty much no one sells them. that was nice to hear!

    Savage City Pythons, where i got my 1.0 Pastel Bamboo: as i was talking to the owner, his son was front and center talking to customers. he had a sub-adult beep out and told his dad "im going to sell him!" his dad encouraged him and said go walk around. i came back later to pick up my animal and the guy said his son had sold the snake. i was honestly so impressed lol. gotta start them young!

    also at the Savage City table: when i finally told the guy i wanted to take him, he looked around, looked at me and said "i actually forgot to bring bags." he was apologizing profusely and said to give him some time to run around to tables and get some, but a fellow vendor (turns out he's good friends with Matt Marberg, who i got my 0.1 B.Pastel from) just so happened to walk by and said "i got you ill be right back." it was so sweet and just a nice example of what this hobby is all about.

    this show is such a cool experience. [emoji4]
  • 12-16-2018, 11:42 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    LAST STORY; I STOLE A SNAKE!

    jk but here's what happened:

    so like i said, Savage City being there caught me by surprise and even the owner was a bit excited and taken aback. i told him we've actually been talking through MM and he was just so excited to show the Pastel Bamboo off.

    i finally come back and say i want the snake. we shake hands, he bags the snake.

    i tell him im going to keep wandering and ill pick him up later; no worries.

    i come back, pick up the snake, we shake hands, and i walk away.

    notice something missing?

    uhm, I NEVER PAID!!!

    i was 5 minutes into my drive home and realize, and IMMEDIATELY email him and ask for a PayPal address. he just emails back "oh holy ****" and just his address. i tell him im driving and ill do it first thing when im home. i tell him thank goodness im an honest person.

    i almost stole a snake!!!
  • 12-16-2018, 11:48 PM
    Kira
    Congrats- both are beautiful!! Here are some quick name suggestions:

    #1: Toffee, Pecan, Mudslide, Mocha, Truffle, Fudge, Carmel/Carmella, Twix, Snickers, Reese, Kahlua

    #2: Wafer, Vanilla Bean, Biscuit, Macaroon, Pancake, Sugar Cookie, Eggnog, Creme Brulee, Macadamia, Muffin

    I've made myself hungry...
  • 12-17-2018, 12:05 AM
    dakski
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Mazel Tov tttaylorr! Awesome new additions.

    I bought Shayna from Mark Petros. He's a good guy and I've had zero issues with Shayna. She's 6 years old now and doing fantastic.

    Nice shot of those Boas. Oh yeah, tell me again why you don't have an AWEOME BOID yet!














    I am waiting......................................................................... ...........................
  • 12-17-2018, 12:11 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dakski View Post
    Mazel Tov tttaylorr! Awesome new additions.

    I bought Shayna from Mark Petros. He's a good guy and I've had zero issues with Shayna. She's 6 years old now and doing fantastic.

    Nice shot of those Boas. Oh yeah, tell me again why you don't have an AWEOME BOID yet!














    I am waiting......................................................................... ...........................

    dude, i was literally telling the kid at Color Crazed Constrictors (the kid running the boa table pictured above) that everyone keeps telling me this. i even asked the kid what he thought, and (being a kid) he just said they're so amazing and his favorites.

    TBH, and im sure ive told you this before, but the only boa i truly drool over is a Dumerils. [emoji2956]

    EDIT: Petros is the man, and that's so awesome you got Shayna from him!!!
  • 12-17-2018, 12:32 AM
    dakski
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    dude, i was literally telling the kid at Color Crazed Constrictors (the kid running the boa table pictured above) that everyone keeps telling me this. i even asked the kid what he thought, and (being a kid) he just said they're so amazing and his favorites.

    TBH, and im sure ive told you this before, but the only boa i truly drool over is a Dumerils. [emoji2956]

    EDIT: Petros is the man, and that's so awesome you got Shayna from him!!!

    Actually not sure you have told me that about Dumerils. I am like an elephant, I never forget - FYI!

    I hear they are awesome, but I have no experience with them. BCC and BCI are remarkable to me. I love the coloration of a true red tail, hence having Feliz, who also has a killer personality. By "killer" I mean chill as can be while still be inquisitive and curious, etc. He's a total sweetheart. He's only 145G now, and I've had him about 6 weeks, and we've been doing gentle handling sessions for about 4, and he's already a total puppy dog. I would trust him with anyone at this point.

    BCI's you can get practically any color or morph your heart desires, and if want the Boa personality, but not too big, get a male. They do not get much bigger than BP females if fed properly. If you want an impressive animal, but one that cannot and will not hurt you, or anyone else in your house, kids included, get a female. A 6FT or so female BCI that's 12 pounds or so is a truly beautiful and impressive animal, but hardly threatening.

    I love both my Boas and I think that Boas are my favorite species now. Awesome personalities, beautiful, perfect adult size, if you can handle a BP temp and humidity wise, you can handle a Boa (all though you will need a bigger tank if you have a BCI female or a non-dwarf red tail like Feliz is). Oh, and they eat like clockwork.

    I will say that Yafe (carpet python) is growing on me fast as well. He's got a great demeanor too.

    If I ever add another animal to my collection, it will be another Boa, almost assuredly.

    Mark was great when I bought Shayna. I had told him that I wanted a very tame/docile animal as I was getting back into snakes and my ex-wife (wife at the time) and never had anything other than a corn snake in the house and was nervous about a python. The other thing was I needed one that took F/T. Mark had four Albino Spider BP's there. He offered F/T to all of them and Shayna took it no problem, as did two others, easy. However, of the other two that took F/T, Shayna was the calmest and gentlest, so he sold me her. I couldn't be happier. I really appreciated the extra effort. I'll always put in a good word for Mark.
  • 12-17-2018, 12:38 AM
    Dianne
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Hmmmm.....Names? Given your ‘mostly’ food theme, here’s a few of ideas.

    Kraken (rum), Forest (black forest cake), Spice, Molly (molasses), Tuaca (Italian liqueur), Godiva, Chicory (as in chicory coffee or Hoodoo chicory liqueur)

    Macchiato, Boodles (gin), Smoke (bbq anyone?), Avion (tequila), Snickerdoodle, Meringue, Amaretti (Italian cookie)

    I started playing around with mixology last year and built quite a selection of liqueurs, hence the alcohol themed names. :D My apologies. lol
  • 12-17-2018, 12:52 AM
    WhompingWillow
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    TBH, and im sure ive told you this before, but the only boa i truly drool over is a Dumerils. [emoji2956]

    I know you just added two snakes and all, but you really wouldn't regret a Dumeril's. ;) All of my "larger" snakes are female (because, well, go big or go home, right?) but here is why you should definitely jump on the Dumeril's train:

    1) They are the puppy dogs of the snake world, truly. Memphis is so easy going. She hangs out with me and likes to explore, but once she finds a comfy spot she just chills. For ages.

    2) Females get to be a good size but are slow growing so you have time to mentally adjust. Males are smaller but still impressive.

    3) Relatively straightforward and forgiving husbandry. Not too hot. Not too humid. They'll soak when they need to. I've offered Memphis a couple of substrates and it's fun watching her bury herself.

    4) They are beautiful and get better with age. They are also relatively cheap when you consider how crazy expensive some of the BCI morphs and other boa localities/subspecies can get.

    5) They have a really cool translucent chin patch!

    6) Good appetites, especially once established. I was told that Memphis would take F/T rat pups when we got her but that she preferred live. She's eaten F/T exclusively while in our care and has never missed a meal.

    Sooo have I convinced you yet??? 😃
  • 12-17-2018, 01:32 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    Sooo have I convinced you yet??? [emoji2]

    ...well ya and u suck lol

    EDIT: [emoji177]
  • 12-17-2018, 01:40 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    Sooo have I convinced you yet??? [emoji2]

    wait! quick Q: is the end of their tail really fat? and not tapered? i saw an adult Dum at the expo this summer and the tail looked like it was cut from a previous infection/injury but in photos of Dums i kinda see the same thing.

    maybe @redshepard could answer this too lol.

    thanks you guys!
  • 12-17-2018, 01:51 AM
    Sonny1318
    Congratulations they’re both beautiful. Black pastel and bamboo, God bless nice pick up! You go! Best of luck!
  • 12-17-2018, 01:52 AM
    WhompingWillow
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    here she is! sound ON for full effect.

    https://streamable.com/6a1fo

    EDIT: ignore my cooing lol

    I mean, her tail is definitely thicker than say, the crazy long and skinny prehensile tails of my young BCL and carpets, but it still tapers at the end for sure. They're stockier snakes, but a lot of the Dumeril's I see online in FB groups look overweight. Let me look through some pics and see if I can find a good body shot of her tail.
  • 12-17-2018, 01:52 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    I mean, her tail is definitely thicker than say, the crazy long and skinny prehensile tails of my young BCL and carpets, but it still tapers at the end for sure. They're stockier snakes, but a lot of the Dumeril's I see online in FB groups look overweight. Let me look through some pics and see if I can find a good body shot of her tail.

    pics would help so much ty!
  • 12-17-2018, 01:55 AM
    WhompingWillow
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    This is the easiest way to show you the most recent photos. Memphis is at the end of the photo shoot, lol.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...era-PIC-HEAVY)
  • 12-17-2018, 01:56 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    I mean, her tail is definitely thicker than say, the crazy long and skinny prehensile tails of my young BCL and carpets, but it still tapers at the end for sure. They're stockier snakes, but a lot of the Dumeril's I see online in FB groups look overweight. Let me look through some pics and see if I can find a good body shot of her tail.

    here's the pic of the Dum i was talking about

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bd1e13029b.jpg
  • 12-17-2018, 01:57 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    This is the easiest way to show you the most recent photos. Memphis is at the end of the photo shoot, lol.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...era-PIC-HEAVY)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    here's the pic of the Dum i was talking about

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bd1e13029b.jpg

    oh, so that's a normal tail! it's so stumpy LOL i love it!
  • 12-17-2018, 02:00 AM
    WhompingWillow
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    here's the pic of the Dum i was talking about

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bd1e13029b.jpg

    Ahh I see what you mean. I can only speak for mine, but her tail tip is a little rounded, not as much as the one in the photo, but I imagine it will become more pronounced as she grows.
  • 12-17-2018, 02:02 AM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: went to Scott Smith's All-Animal Expo!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WhompingWillow View Post
    Ahh I see what you mean. I can only speak for mine, but her tail tip is a little rounded, not as much as the one in the photo, but I imagine it will become more pronounced as she grows.

    the Dum was a much older animal from what i remember overhearing from the owner. she was for sale.

    EDIT: not like super old but mature.

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f3db90d628.jpg

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...129e440a6c.jpg

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8e667a6437.jpg
  • 12-17-2018, 11:39 AM
    MR Snakes
    Very nice
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