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Double Het Question

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  • 11-30-2018, 09:41 PM
    Jbabycsx
    Double Het Question
    Can someone explain to me the advantage of using a double het when breeding? Is it done for financial purposes? I see a few of them on morph market for sale but most cost as much or more than a visual so it has me confused.


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  • 11-30-2018, 09:51 PM
    Hannahshissyfix
    Re: Double Het Question
    They're more valuable because you get a shot at a double recessive visual depending what you put it to.

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  • 11-30-2018, 10:13 PM
    Jbabycsx
    Re: Double Het Question
    I should have explained what I meant better. Say a double het axanthic. I get why someone would want something that is het for two different traits, but why double for one trait?


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  • 11-30-2018, 10:14 PM
    StillBP
    Re: Double Het Question
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    Originally Posted by Jbabycsx View Post
    I should have explained what I meant better. Say a double het axanthic. I get why someone would want something that is het for two different traits, but why double for one trait?


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    Double het of the same trait = visual

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  • 11-30-2018, 10:16 PM
    Jbabycsx
    Re: Double Het Question
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    Originally Posted by StillBP View Post
    Double het of the same trait = visual

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    So breeding a double het to a normal produces visuals as well as hets?


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  • 11-30-2018, 10:21 PM
    StillBP
    Re: Double Het Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jbabycsx View Post
    So breeding a double het to a normal produces visuals as well as hets?


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    There's no such thing as a double het of the same genet if it has a double het it's a visual it's not a double

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  • 11-30-2018, 10:23 PM
    StillBP
    Re: Double Het Question
    That of course unless it's something like a double het snow. Which would be het axanthic and het albino

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  • 11-30-2018, 10:28 PM
    Jbabycsx
    Re: Double Het Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StillBP View Post
    There's no such thing as a double het of the same genet if it has a double het it's a visual it's not a double

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    Gotcha! Now I see where my confusion came from. The “double” didn’t click until I actually read their ads on mm. They all have a second trait that I wasn’t taking the time to read. Nothing more to see here, move along! Lol thanks!


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  • 11-30-2018, 10:31 PM
    StillBP
    Re: Double Het Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jbabycsx View Post
    Gotcha! Now I see where my confusion came from. The “double” didn’t click until I actually read their ads on mm. They all have a second trait that I wasn’t taking the time to read. Nothing more to see here, move along! Lol thanks!


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    It happens to everyone. Glad you figured it out

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  • 11-30-2018, 10:35 PM
    Jbabycsx
    Re: Double Het Question
    Well I usually only open ads on mm that I can actually afford. Most dh snakes don’t fall into that category! But hey, you don’t know something until you ask. Thankfully the reptile community is pretty receptive to newcomers.


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  • 11-30-2018, 10:38 PM
    StillBP
    Re: Double Het Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jbabycsx View Post
    Well I usually only open ads on mm that I can actually afford. Most dh snakes don’t fall into that category! But hey, you don’t know something until you ask. Thankfully the reptile community is pretty receptive to newcomers.


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    Only dumb question is a unasked one.

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  • 11-30-2018, 11:29 PM
    MR Snakes
    This is all clear as mud to me but I'll read on and hopefully get it one day.
  • 11-30-2018, 11:58 PM
    WhompingWillow
    Re: Double Het Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MR Snakes View Post
    This is all clear as mud to me but I'll read on and hopefully get it one day.

    You'll get there. :)

    Have you played around with the calculator on MM?

    https://www.morphmarket.com/c/reptil...ic-calculator/

    You can input Hets as well to see your odds. An easy example :

    Het Piebald x Piebald gives you the following odds:
    50% Piebald (visual)
    50% normal that's 100% Het for Piebald (because you bred a visual animal to one that was carrying the recessive gene)
  • 12-01-2018, 12:53 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    What people refer to when they use the terms double hets are het for two distinct recessive trait for example DH albino pied.

    To produce a double recessive animal such as an Albino Pied you would need to pair two DH Albino Pied together for a 1 in 16 chance per egg to produce an Albino Pied.

    It really comes down to budget, pairing DH is usually the cheaper route, after that if you wanted to produce an albino pied you could do

    Pied Het Albino x DH Albino Pied

    Albino Het Pied to DH Albino Pied

    Pied Het Albino x Albino Het Pied

    Etc

    Bottom line if you want to produce a Double recessive (which are harder to produce and keep their value longer) you have to have animals carrying the trait for both genes aka Double Het
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