I have the longest species. Smallest?

So I have been thinking. I have reticulated pythons which are the longest species in the pet trade. I started thinking about getting the smallest species that does well in the pet trade for my education program. I think would be cool to show the contrast. With 2 payments to go on Aurora I am getting excited to see her and get her settled in.

I was looking at ring neck snakes. The only issue is they don't thrive in captivity from what I have read online. What are some good smallest species to work with. Not in a hurry at all and will be June or July before I seriously start my search. I love the look of hognoses but don't want anything venomous (even rear fanged) in my collection.


At this point I have BRB, Dwarf Boa, RTB, 2 Ball pythons, King snake, corn snake, and 3 reticulated pythons.

Ringneck snakes make awful pets. They're native to my home state and I don't think I've ever seen them bred in Captivity. One of my favorites to find in the wild.

Maybe a Kenyan Sand Boa? They max out under 2ft long and give you a STRONG comparison between large and small, but is still "large" enough to be handled by kids in an Educational program.

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Paul

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Originally Posted by pbenner

Ringneck snakes make awful pets. They're native to my home state and I don't think I've ever seen them bred in Captivity. One of my favorites to find in the wild.

Maybe a Kenyan Sand Boa? They max out under 2ft long and give you a STRONG comparison between large and small, but is still "large" enough to be handled by kids in an Educational program.

2c.

Paul

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I do love the Kenyan Sand Boas. Was looking at them. Love that it is another boa as well. Great suggestion.

I always like finding ring neck snakes but as said, I've never seen them do well in captivity. There's an even smaller snake I find occasionally here, the Brahminy blind snake (flower pot snake). They are tiny so I don't know that you would want something that small but it would be worth looking into.

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I always like finding ring neck snakes but as said, I've never seen them do well in captivity. There's an even smaller snake I find occasionally here, the Brahminy blind snake (flower pot snake). They are tiny so I don't know that you would want something that small but it would be worth looking into.

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I agree about the ring neck species being difficult to keep in captivity.

I did some reading about the Brahminy blind snake. They seam to be hard to get to thrive in captivity as well. From reading several articles, the average length of time people have been successful to keep them alive is 6 months to a year. Guessing a year is typical in the wild. Not off the list but still shopping.

Thank you for the suggestion.

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This is a great suggestion. They live a long time and seam to do well in captivity. Will put up to vote on Monday.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Rubber boas seem to be quite small. No rear fangs there. Hard to find, but I did see them listed once on Kingsnake.com. Not sure how they do in captivity.
Also maybe the egg eating snake? doesn't even have teeth.

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Rubber boas seem to be quite small. No rear fangs there. Hard to find, but I did see them listed once on Kingsnake.com. Not sure how they do in captivity.
Also maybe the egg eating snake? doesn't even have teeth.

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Did some reading. They seam great as captive species goes. Acquiring one might be difficult. I am not afraid of waiting and searching. Will make the list if I can find one.

Savu pythons are also tiny. What's interesting to me is that of all my pythons they act a lot like my retics, just in a 3-4 foot long pencil thin snake.

How about a shovel-nose snake? I'm not sure about how they are to keep but they're adorable! (my Western Longnose snake is similar but bigger)
They eat a variety of insects, including spiders, centipedes & scorpions...yum! With so many spiders around here, this is what I need! ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw6t5SFPkNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzWYD262v6w




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Originally Posted by distaff

Rubber boas seem to be quite small. No rear fangs there. Hard to find, but I did see them listed once on Kingsnake.com. Not sure how they do in captivity.
Also maybe the egg eating snake? doesn't even have teeth.

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If you're considering a rubber boa, you might well include a rosy boa for an option: the males stay about 2 1/2' (30") and they're much more available than rubber boas.

You might also consider some of the Candoia (Solomon Island ground boa or tree boa, Viper boa, etc.). My male Solomon Island ground boa is about 2’ at 18 years old. Females get a bit larger, but 3’ is about max size. Pretty easy to care for but it’s important not to over heat or over feed these guys.

Garter snakes. There's a few folks on here that keep them and love them.

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^^^^ shovel-nosed snake ;) Cute isn't it? But not sure how hard they are to keep....they mostly eat insects (spiders & all that).

(I wonder if anyone has bred these in captivity? Probably not many...)

Another important consideration when trying to find a small snake that handles well & doesn't scare people that are new to snakes is how FAST they move-
I've actually had people tell me they don't mind huge snakes so much because they move slow (-they never see them eating, lol), but that they're terrified
of the little fast-moving ones. I think that's one of the big reasons why BPs are so popular?

On that score, my Aussie spotted python does very well...she thrives on warm hands & is very "clingy", not a fast mover at all.
At about 10 years of age, she is about 3.5' long, and since she stays coiled on hands & has a more slender body, she doesn't
look as long as she is.