Feeding lump

Hi! I’m fairly new to this community and snake keeping, but I love it and am excited to be a part of it! I recently just got a baby BRB and offered her her first meal (after waiting about a week) and she didn’t take it off the tongs, but I left it in there and she ate it after about an hour!
It was a frozen thawed fuzzy mouse 5g, I pulled her out after 48 hrs and she still had a very noticeable lump, I didn’t want to stress her, so I quickly weighed her and put her back. With the lump she weighed 38 grams. At 75 hrs she still had a lump, but it’s a little bit smaller, not much though.
Humidity 100% cool side always between 72-75 warm side of 80-83. She has just been her humid hide which is in the center of the enclosure digesting this whole time as far as I can tell.

Im going to leave her alone for 48 more hours and then check on her again. Should I be concerned?? Was the food item too big? Any input or help would be appreciated.

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Hi! I’m fairly new to this community and snake keeping, but I love it and am excited to be a part of it! I recently just got a baby BRB and offered her her first meal (after waiting about a week) and she didn’t take it off the tongs, but I left it in there and she ate it after about an hour!
It was a frozen thawed fuzzy mouse 5g, I pulled her out after 48 hrs and she still had a very noticeable lump, I didn’t want to stress her, so I quickly weighed her and put her back. With the lump she weighed 38 grams. At 75 hrs she still had a lump, but it’s a little bit smaller, not much though.
Humidity 100% cool side always between 72-75 warm side of 80-83. She has just been her humid hide which is in the center of the enclosure digesting this whole time as far as I can tell.

Im going to leave her alone for 48 more hours and then check on her again. Should I be concerned?? Was the food item too big? Any input or help would be appreciated.

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Need to be more like 80 cool side 88 hot side and 60% humidity 100% humidity is wayyy to hight


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+1, get that temp. Humidity at 60.

It’s a Brazilian Rainbow boa.. and it’s a baby. Only 2 months old.

At least 86 degrees minimum warm side, 88 would be better. 78 degrees cool. And 60 to 70 percent humidity should be great. Hope that helps.

60-70% humidity can be deadly for a baby rainbow boa and anything over 85 is too hot. Thanks.

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60-70% humidity can be deadly for a baby rainbow boa and anything over 85 is too hot. Thanks.

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http://rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com/Ca...ainbow_Boa.htm


http://www.moonlightboas.com/care-in...ow-boa-faq.php

I think I trust some of the more specialized experienced breeders over a generalized reptile magazine. Thanks. I do appreciate your response and help. I really just don’t think my temps or humidity are an issue. Was just wondering if the lump was normal after that amount of time. Thanks again, I do appreciate your input!

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http://www.moonlightboas.com/care-in...ow-boa-faq.php

I think I trust some of the more specialized experienced breeders over a generalized reptile magazine. Thanks. I do appreciate your response and help. I really just don’t think my temps or humidity are an issue. Was just wondering if the lump was normal after that amount of time. Thanks again, I do appreciate your input!

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Even according to the caresheets you quoted your self your numbers are stilll wayyy off https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...91e578902f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4fa88de9d0.jpg


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http://rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com/Ca...ainbow_Boa.htm


http://www.moonlightboas.com/care-in...ow-boa-faq.php

I think I trust some of the more specialized experienced breeders over a generalized reptile magazine. Thanks. I do appreciate your response and help. I really just don’t think my temps or humidity are an issue. Was just wondering if the lump was normal after that amount of time. Thanks again, I do appreciate your input!

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And to answer your question no it is not normal snakes need heat to digest. When they don’t have the proper heat and humidity it can take almost double the time for them to digest what should take a day or two. You quoted care sheets that you obviously didn’t read. Your right! rainbow boas do require a little less heat but the answers we gave you where a lot closer and probably a lot healthier then what you are at now. What we quoted you is for more of a general boa setup. But once again. A lot closer to the real numbers then what you are actually keeping the boa at. Why ask a question if you don’t like the answer. We all are just giving you information from OUR experience.


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Care is a bit different and more sensitive for neonates. Adults are fine with 70% humidity, but neonates are better with 95-100+%. I think adults do better with higher than 70%, that is more of a minimum.

Thank you, I appreciate the input. I will raise the hot spot to 84-85. I’ve just read a lot and lower temps seem to be better for rainbows. The original temps and humidity you recommended me seemed off. Thanks though!

60% humidity would be way too low for a BRB. most resources I've read, and I've read a lot. say 80-90%

Following, cause mine has a lump too...or a thickening, but this is a week after feeding. He hasn't been getting much exercise... I assume cause i'm not getting ambient temps up high enough. Today I wrapped insulation around the and and under t.. still thermostat reading that it's in heating mode...

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http://rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com/Ca...ainbow_Boa.htm


http://www.moonlightboas.com/care-in...ow-boa-faq.php

I think I trust some of the more specialized experienced breeders over a generalized reptile magazine. Thanks. I do appreciate your response and help. I really just don’t think my temps or humidity are an issue. Was just wondering if the lump was normal after that amount of time. Thanks again, I do appreciate your input!

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I personally have raised three rainbows, two Brazilian one Columbian. And yes I’m a big fan of letting things drop to the low 70’s. But if you already knew better, then what’s up with confusion about it’s digestion? People are just trying to help and you, and you stated it’s not “digesting properly”. So the first thing most would look at is husbandry. That’s why the answers you received regarding “slow” digestion, were given. We assume your husbandry is probably off, that’s all. And that Reptile magazine was not only awesome, it probably did more for the hobby then most people could ever imagine.

Thank you, I was just wondering if I should be concerned. I haven’t noticed a lump last that long on my other snake and was just hoping it was okay. Wasn’t trying to start any arguments, just wondering if my feed item was too big? Should I try a 4 g fuzzy next feed once the lump is gone? I know with questions like these people always ask about the husbandry so I offered it. I wasn’t looking for advice on the husbandry, just the lump and food size, the breeder who has been breeding them for over 20 years said my husbandry was fine.

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60% humidity would be way too low for a BRB. most resources I've read, and I've read a lot. say 80-90%

Following, cause mine has a lump too...or a thickening, but this is a week after feeding. He hasn't been getting much exercise... I assume cause i'm not getting ambient temps up high enough. Today I wrapped insulation around the and and under t.. still thermostat reading that it's in heating mode...

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What are your ambient temps? Mine stays around 74 most the day, lowest is has dropped is to 72 and goes up to 75. Doesn’t drop lower or go higher than that.

I've raised several BRB litters. Neonates should run mid-70's low temp, mid 80's high temp. Humidity for a neonate is 90% or higher. Make sure the high temp is actually in the mid-80's; many people focus solely on the humidity and as a result of constantly spraying cold water into the baby tubs they don't get warm enough. I run all my babies on damp cypress mulch substrate with back heat so I don't have to constantly spray them; they can burrow and be plenty warm and humid.

Because BRB's run cooler than ball pythons and boa imperators their metabolisms are slower and they take a bit longer to digest a meal. If a feeder leaves a visible lump then don't handle the baby for at least three days. They are also fine eating on a 7-10 day schedule from the get-go, unlike ball pythons which you can feed on a 5-7 day schedule.

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I've raised several BRB litters. Neonates should run mid-70's low temp, mid 80's high temp. Humidity for a neonate is 90% or higher. Make sure the high temp is actually in the mid-80's; many people focus solely on the humidity and as a result of constantly spraying cold water into the baby tubs they don't get warm enough. I run all my babies on damp cypress mulch substrate with back heat so I don't have to constantly spray them; they can burrow and be plenty warm and humid.

Because BRB's run cooler than ball pythons and boa imperators their metabolisms are slower and they take a bit longer to digest a meal. If a feeder leaves a visible lump then don't handle the baby for at least three days. They are also fine eating on a 7-10 day schedule from the get-go, unlike ball pythons which you can feed on a 5-7 day schedule.

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Thank you so much, I feel a bit better now :). I was used to my ball python eating, digesting, and then pooping in a span of 4 days! Good to know they digest a bit slower.