Help : my burmese python has foggy(grey ) eyes

Hi .

so I'm new to pythons

But I think my python is sick

I used to hear cracking when she breathes in the past week

today after I left her for 3 days
I came home and reached for her but she was hissing on me (the first time this happen ) ... her feed time was 3 days ago

I noticed that her eyes are grey .

and she was really bulky because after 2 meals she didn't pass feces


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She shed 16 days ago..


I cant't just go to the Vet ,, Because in my country its illegal to own snakes .

Temp: 33 C - 91.4 F in the hot side ( but she usually stay in the middle of her cage )
Humidity ( 40-80)


*Sorry for my english .

My 2 cents.

1. She is in shed but the breathing thing might be an RI.

2. If you can't provide for her you should not have her. That includes taking her to the vet when sick.


Not sure if it is still a thing but I read one about Burms having RI issues with certain morphs as they age. I am sure others can clarify this for those who have experience. An RI is no joke for any reptile.

All of this was said in love and should be taken as such.

Best wishes.

Skyrivers


Thank you for your reply its appreciated .

I know I made a mistake by buying her.

But since I got her 6 months ago I kept searching for a vet just in case , but I failed .

she is a normal burmese without any morph

Its not about the money .
I really care about her.


* I'm a pharmacist , but I know nothing about reptile medications .. anyone can help?

I think she's just gone into shed again ... they are more frequent when they're younger .. that would explain the cloudy eyes and the hissing ... Burms hiss sometimes when they're disturbed and more so when in shed mode and they can't see as well as normal .
I'd wait until the eyes clear then start spraying the viv two or three times a day until it sheds


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Welcome to the forum!:)

So your first snake is a Burm? :O

I don't like to assume, but your questions sound like a newbie. Nothing wrong with that, but a Burm is not considered a beginner snake.

You do have a problem though, because a culture needs to be run so that the proper antibiotics can be administered.

Being a pharmacist you know about all of the rules, importance of proper dosing and such. I don’t know which or if human antibiotics can be substituted for reptile antibiotics such as Baytril, Fortaz, etc. If so, dosing may be tough, or impossible due to drug concentrations of mg per kilogram and such. But if anybody can figure out if it is possible or not it would be you.

Best of luck, and no need to apologize for your English, it’s great! :)

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Originally Posted by burmese-KSA

Hi .

so I'm new to pythons

But I think my python is sick

I used to hear cracking when she breathes in the past week

today after I left her for 3 days
I came home and reached for her but she was hissing on me (the first time this happen ) ... her feed time was 3 days ago

I noticed that her eyes are grey .

and she was really bulky because after 2 meals she didn't pass feces


https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/Dd7NC9O.jpg

She shed 16 days ago..


I cant't just go to the Vet ,, Because in my country its illegal to own snakes .

Temp: 33 C - 91.4 F in the hot side ( but she usually stay in the middle of her cage )
Humidity ( 40-80)


*Sorry for my english .

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Happy to see you here. I’ll post a link to my Burm Group for you too.
Obviously as others have told you this is how they shed. The process last around 3 weeks. Loose skin, then blue/Grey eyes/clear eyes and then will start to shed.
That humidity range is to far spread. You need over 55% always and bump to 70%+ when “In Blue” (eyes for shedding term).
These snakes live in higher Humidity surroundings with water.
As far as the sound... Burms are known to make noise before the shedding process however if this is something consistent that you have heard than you need to consider the possibility of an RI. Look for mucous around the mouth or nose and listen for congestion after she/he is done shedding. At that point you need to make a vet appointment. Vision will be affected which is why they don’t want to be bothered during shedding.
If the shedding is not complete and they have skin left on them put her in a tote with warm water, let her soak for a few minutes and see if she will crawl through your hands allowing you to squeeze a little while the old shed comes off. Ive had to do this often especially with Large Burms as thy sometimes leave some strips of old skin on themselves.

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Where do you live?

The fact that you are new to snake, can't recognize a snake in shed and have a Burmese tells me you are way in over your head and may want to rethink owning this animal or you better learn and learn quick.

A snake "shed" includes a little skin in their outer nostrils as well, so snakes may have (usually minor) noisy breathing during a shed cycle but it clears up once
they shed...and if it doesn't, it may mean they didn't fully shed the skin in their outer nostrils, so take a look. Was there noisy breathing after the previous shed?

A snake that's young (growing fast & being fed a lot) can go into another shed in 16 days, that sounds pretty normal...I'd wait to see if there's noisy breathing
after this coming shed before assuming it's an R.I. (respiratory infection) & treating for that, unless you are seeing mucus/bubbles in the mouth (<that would NOT
be normal & you'd want to treat for an R.I.). Most snakes are "hissy" (grumpy) when in shed...totally normal. All the best...

Zincubus

thank you.. I'll wait and see if her eyes came back to normal.

Reinz

yeah I made a mistake but I fall in love . when I touched her the first time

But I used to own an elegant racer its a native snake in my country

I'm her only chance if she had a RI
no vet will accept her
lets hope its just the shed

CALM Pythons

thank you .. too bad I don't have Facebook

there is no mucous on her mouth or in nostrils .. she was yawning a lot that's how I'm sure







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Deborah

now I'm scared on my life .
But I'll keep this in my mind and I'll try to find a home for her when she get really big.
thank you for your advice



Bogertophis

my problem is that I travel a lot

but all the cracking sound started after the last shed . I kept her with a friend of mine but he didn't pay attention to the humidity ( when I came back the shed was in pieces and she was really thirsty )





there is no mucous on her mouth or in nostrils .. she was yawning a lot that's how I'm sure






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Thank you for your help
Yesterday I couldn't stop thinking about her
But now I'm really comfortable

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Originally Posted by burmese-KSA

now I'm scared on my life .
But I'll keep this in my mind and I'll try to find a home for her when she get really big.
thank you for your advice

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Everything about this screams.... You should not have this animal. Just MO.

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Bogertophis

my problem is that I travel a lot

but all the cracking sound started after the last shed . I kept her with a friend of mine but he didn't pay attention to the humidity ( when I came back the shed was in pieces and she was really thirsty )





there is no mucous on her mouth or in nostrils .. she was yawning a lot that's how I'm sure






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Thank you for your help
Yesterday I couldn't stop thinking about her
But now I'm really comfortable

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Hopefully this is mostly the result of your friend not paying attention to the humidity when you were gone. I wish you (& especially this snake) all the best, but I do
agree with the others who said this is not a beginner snake. As for her (or his) health, it bodes well that you aren't seeing bubbles or mucus...do raise the humidity,
this is not a desert species...and if their respiratory tissues dry out, they will be more prone to illness. This is really important.

As the snake's size (& strength) increases, for your safety you should have a trusted friend (& preferably one with snake experience) right there with you

when any handling or feeding is done. Snakes are very strong for their size & very motivated when it comes to food: they don't rely on vision to recognize

their prey...they tend to grab whatever is "warm & wiggling" & the more you struggle, the harder they hold on, as they are waiting for you, or rather what

they see as "prey" to STOP moving so they can consume. Snakes are NOT logical about what they can or cannot swallow...they make a snap decision, &

just try (once it's dead) to see if it fits. So just because you won't fit, please do not assume that a snake of this size will just love you as their keeper and

never try...they can make feeding mistakes, and if you're away frequently, they also won't really recognize you so much as if you handled them often. As

these large snakes grow, eventually you will need MORE than just one friend on hand for safety. I wish you the best...I'm not saying you cannot do this, but

please think in terms of your own safety. Large snakes can be very hard to un-wrap by yourself. And if you end up making "news", not only won't it end

well for this beautiful snake, but accidents that get reported tend to make more people afraid & hating all snakes.

And by the way...:welcome:

I even struggled with Dwarf Burm who topped out at 7' !!

So fast and inquisitive yet decent sized and strong !!

Crazy feeding instinct as well !!

Quite a challenge taking on a full sized Burm to be honest ..


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If you care about the Animal I would find it a home with someone that is around everyday. Your friend not paying attention to it is the first indication this snake will suffer sooner or later. You traveling means you don’t have the time for a pet right now. Im not being mean to you but for the sake of this gorgeous creature find him a dedicated keeper before he suffers. Best of luck.


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Skyrivers ,
Bogertophis ,
Zincubus ,
CALM Pythons



Thank you for your advise and concerns

she is about 6 ft now ,, and very docile .. but I'll take my caution

I'm going to search for a buyer . who has experience and can take good care of her .