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So I have a temp probe under my substrate above uth. The digital temp reads 102. 6 but on top of substrate it's like 87.7 area. I'm confused. I have my CHE set to go off after it reaches 92. Should I raise that? And BPs don't burrow so should I not worry she can get burned? How do i get it hotter for belly heat?

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So I have a temp probe under my substrate above uth. The digital temp reads 102. 6 but on top of substrate it's like 87.7 area. I'm confused. I have my CHE set to go off after it reaches 92. Should I raise that? And BPs don't burrow so should I not worry she can get burned? How do i get it hotter for belly heat?

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I should add the probe is inside the tank on top of the glass covered by the substrate.


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Originally Posted by HeathBish

I should add the probe is inside the tank on top of the glass covered by the substrate.


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ThermoMETER probe or ThermoSTAT probe??


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Originally Posted by ErostheSnake

ThermoMETER probe or ThermoSTAT probe??


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Zoo med digital thermometer.


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Originally Posted by HeathBish

Zoo med digital thermometer.


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Is your UTH also connected to a thermostat? With the probe attached to the UTH outside of the enclosure?


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Originally Posted by HeathBish

So I have a temp probe under my substrate above uth. The digital temp reads 102. 6 but on top of substrate it's like 87.7 area. I'm confused. I have my CHE set to go off after it reaches 92. Should I raise that? And BPs don't burrow so should I not worry she can get burned? How do i get it hotter for belly heat?

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They DO and CAN burrow. I'm not sure who told you otherwise. This is why it is recommended to measure your hot spot surface temps UNDER the substrate. Your hot spot is too hot!


If your UTH is regulated by a thermostat dial it back so the temp under the substrate does not exceed 92F. If you don't have a thermostat for your UTH get one ASAP. Remember ALL heat sources must be regulated by a thermostat.

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They DO and CAN burrow. I'm not sure who told you otherwise. This is why it is recommended to measure your hot spot surface temps UNDER the substrate. Your hot spot is too hot!


If your UTH is regulated by a thermostat dial it back so the temp under the substrate does not exceed 92F. If you don't have a thermostat for your UTH get one ASAP. Remember ALL heat sources must be regulated by a thermostat.

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I read in a few different articles that they don't. I had no idea. Good thing I checked. So the surface is hot enough then?

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Originally Posted by HeathBish

I read in a few different articles that they don't. I had no idea. Good thing I checked. So the surface is hot enough then?

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By that I mean the substrate above the uth.


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Originally Posted by HeathBish

By that I mean the substrate above the uth.


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And I am measuring under the substrate. The surface with my temp gun is reading 88.7

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Originally Posted by HeathBish

By that I mean the substrate above the uth.


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The temp of the substrate isn’t as important as the temp of the glass UNDER the substrate. NO surface should be over 90-92°.


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And I am measuring under the substrate. The surface with my temp gun is reading 88.7

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That is perfect [emoji1305]


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Originally Posted by ErostheSnake

The temp of the substrate isn’t as important as the temp of the glass UNDER the substrate. NO surface should be over 90-92°.


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: Ok. So I have my CHE hooked up to thermostat. Should I switch them out use it for the uth instead until I get another thermostat? Obviously, right?


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Ok. So I have my CHE hooked up to thermostat. Should I switch them out use it for the uth instead until I get another thermostat? Obviously, right?


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Sorry for swearing. I forgot I can't.

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Sorry for swearing. I forgot I can't.

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Because the UTH doesn’t do anything for ambient, I would unplug that and plug the CHE into the thermostat until you get another thermostat. Or a dimmer switch for the CHE.


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Because the UTH doesn’t do anything for ambient, I would unplug that and plug the CHE into the thermostat until you get another thermostat. Or a dimmer switch for the CHE.


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Dimmer switch?

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Dimmer switch?

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I just ordered one. Now to wait the 3 days lol. Thank you so much!

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Originally Posted by HeathBish

I just ordered one. Now to wait the 3 days lol. Thank you so much!

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No problem


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No problem


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So you think she will be ok without the uth? Should I plug it in and unplug it if I'm around to monitor until I get it? I know belly heat is important.

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So you think she will be ok without the uth? Should I plug it in and unplug it if I'm around to monitor until I get it? I know belly heat is important.

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Or do you think that's to much of a fluctuation?

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So you think she will be ok without the uth? Should I plug it in and unplug it if I'm around to monitor until I get it? I know belly heat is important.

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She’ll be just fine. Many people don’t use UTH.


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Originally Posted by ErostheSnake

She’ll be just fine. Many people don’t use UTH.


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Cool ok. Thanks again!

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Cool ok. Thanks again!

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You’re welcome :)


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You may not even need the UTH at all. Access to the right temperatures is important, "belly heat" isn't. In the wild there are warm surfaces, but they are heated from above by the sun, not from underneath.

As far as whether or not they "burrow" versus using burrows made by other animals - that's beside the point here. The reason is that you presumably have an inch of substrate or less above the UTH if it does anything for the surface temperature at all, and that substrate is presumably fairly loose. A ball python will very easily shove the substrate around while moving around and getting comfortable, and may well end up lying right on the glass. That's not really "burrowing" behavior; there's nothing to burrow in anyway in 1" of substrate. But just the snake can still get burned if the surface of the glass is hot enough.

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You may not even need the UTH at all. Access to the right temperatures is important, "belly heat" isn't. In the wild there are warm surfaces, but they are heated from above by the sun, not from underneath.

As far as whether or not they "burrow" versus using burrows made by other animals - that's beside the point here. The reason is that you presumably have an inch of substrate or less above the UTH if it does anything for the surface temperature at all, and that substrate is presumably fairly loose. A ball python will very easily shove the substrate around while moving around and getting comfortable, and may well end up lying right on the glass. That's not really "burrowing" behavior; there's nothing to burrow in anyway in 1" of substrate. But just the snake can still get burned if the surface of the glass is hot enough.

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This is so confusing for me. Lol I was always told belly heat. But I switched the uth to my Stat and got a dimmer for my CHE. I'm monitoring closely to have the Temps perfect. I asked in another post about perfect Temps and humidity because what I resd in the sticky isn't what I'm told and read elsewhere. She's in her first shed with me and I'm a worried mom right now. I want it to be perfect.

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