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Odd mojave?
So a few months ago I purchased an adult mojave from a local pet store. Long story short the guy that sold her to the pet store also had a big c serpents incubator for sale so the store owner hooked me up with him. When I spoke with the original owner he told me he bred a clown to her to make hets and a clown came out! Pleasant surprise for me. But I asked why she looked so different then the majority of mojaves I've seen. He said he's not 100% but he thinks she has harlequin in her due to the dorsal stripe. Looking for your opinions and expertise please. Thanks!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...707fba763c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...77fc61cc4c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...eadf30e80b.jpg
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Re: Odd mojave?
She’s cool! Sometimes a single heterozygous gene can cause visible distinctions, though subtle. It could be that the clown gene is subtly displaying itself with the striping.
For example my het orange ghost has a slightly light orange hue compared to normals. Sometimes the heterozygous piebald gene causes peach colored tint near the belly and strong black markings along the belly.
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Originally Posted by Godzilla78
She’s cool! Sometimes a single heterozygous gene can cause visible distinctions, though subtle. It could be that the clown gene is subtly displaying itself with the striping.
For example my het orange ghost has a slightly light orange hue compared to normals. Sometimes the heterozygous piebald gene causes peach colored tint near the belly and strong black markings along the belly.
My het albino is way brighter/cleaner than I would expect her visual morph to be (Cinnamon x Spider).
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Originally Posted by Godzilla78
She’s cool! Sometimes a single heterozygous gene can cause visible distinctions, though subtle. It could be that the clown gene is subtly displaying itself with the striping.
For example my het orange ghost has a slightly light orange hue compared to normals. Sometimes the heterozygous piebald gene causes peach colored tint near the belly and strong black markings along the belly.
I guess that does make some sense. I can't wait to put her to my enchi clown next year! Eventually I'd like a ghi Mohave clown! Anyway thanks for the reaponse.
ALittleFree show me some piccccs!
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I can't speak on genetics, but my male cinnamon mojo has a near-complete dorsal strip. And has a very similar color
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Originally Posted by Crowfingers
I can't speak on genetics, but my male cinnamon mojo has a near-complete dorsal strip. And has a very similar color
Very interesting...could you possibly share some pics?
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That's a nice looking big girl! I'd just say if anything, the het might be affecting her a little but I really dont see anything besides the normal variances in striping with the morph.
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Originally Posted by Hannahshissyfix
That's a nice looking big girl! I'd just say if anything, the het might be affecting her a little but I really dont see anything besides the normal variances in striping with the morph.
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Yea, the more I think about it seems like the most logical anwser. Hopefully she makes me a beautiful BEL this year I'm putting her to a nuclear. Thank you all for your responses!
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Coincidence we both came up on some pretty interesting Mojave females Knowell, LMFAO! .. well they look similar your girl looks WAY bigger than my girl smfh
I’m guessing this dorsal strip they have is just from that years clutches of Mojave’s lol .. ([emoji817]sarcasm)... when I saw her I thought ooo wow ... you must know Andy too lmfao!!
Nice looking girl tho, hopefully you get ya BEL, will you post a pic of ya male ? This is my female I jus picked up [emoji847][emoji7]
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wow that is a BIG girl!!
my 2nd snake ever was a Mojave boy with very good dorsal. it's a broken stripe, but it's nice and clean. he's around 1100 or 1200grams right now but i only have baby pix on hand:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/sIoZk1P.jpg
i'm not a fan of saying an animals has another gene (like Harlequin) unless that was in the snakes' pairing and genetics. it's a nice descriptor but it's still a poss. until it's prove it out. she is really pretty tho and i'm glad she is het Clown.
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Originally Posted by Ax01
wow that is a BIG girl!!
my 2nd snake ever was a Mojave boy with very good dorsal. it's a broken stripe, but it's nice and clean. he's around 1100 or 1200grams right now but i only have baby pix on hand:
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/sIoZk1P.jpg
i'm not a fan of saying an animals has another gene (like Harlequin) unless that was in the snakes' pairing and genetics. it's a nice descriptor but it's still a poss. until it's prove it out. she is really pretty tho and i'm glad she is het Clown.
Agreed... and as you once said Ax.... thats the fun part :D
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Here is a nice male Mojave I picked up https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...072d771095.jpg
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Ronnie my girl is decent but not that big she is just north of 1700 right now. I'm headed home from work I will post pics of my nuclear male going to her when I get home. The het Clown blew my mind, next year she is being paired with my enchi clown.
Ax1!!!!! I'm loving the color on that baby. That dark head is just stunning!
Thank you all for your responses!
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Ronnie he is the butter fire boy the mojave will breed with this season.
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Very interesting...could you possibly share some pics?
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This is my boy about 2.5 years ago - his colors have faded a lot since then.
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Oh he's sweet looking. What do you end up making with him?
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Nothing - he's just a spoiled pet. I don't plan on breeding. (and the snark in me wanted to reply "a belt", but that's just not tasteful lol)
he's about 1050-1100g now and very similar in color to yours. I need to get a good natural light pic of him at some point.
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Nothing - he's just a spoiled pet. I don't plan on breeding. (and the snark in me wanted to reply "a belt", but that's just not tasteful lol)
he's about 1050-1100g now and very similar in color to yours. I need to get a good natural light pic of him at some point.
Lol a belt. He went from that dark to looking like mine? Yea if you happen to make some new pics I'd be interested in seeing that.
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Mmmm another puzzle ... A year or so I bought a Butter Royal ( in the UK ) and when I put up photos many said it was a lesser ..
This is him then but his colour has faded since and he's got a lit thicker with lovely faded sides .. I'll try and take a new pic soon ..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9b9bce2b24.png
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Mmmm another puzzle ... A year or so I bought a Butter Royal ( in the UK ) and when I put up photos many said it was a lesser ..
This is him then but his colour has faded since and he's got a lit thicker with lovely faded sides .. I'll try and take a new pic soon .. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9b9bce2b24.png
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Lesser/butter/ lesser platinum are all the same gene, started as different lines but have been interchanged so much its pointless to keep all of the names imo.
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Lesser/butter/ lesser platinum are all the same gene, started as different lines but have been interchanged so much its pointless to keep all of the names imo.
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I would agree to some extent. But IMO there are differences in each line. The one zinccubus posted I would consider a lesser due to the black. I'm in florida and our butter line around here has no black. Although things have been mixed changed and somewhat confused if you spend enough time with each gene you will see the subtle differences. Below is my baby butter pastel female.
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I could post my half dozen lesser/butters and noone would guess who is who corectly based on coloring. They all vary even within so same clutch on light/darkness. Its all just guessing short of making sure I keep things labeled by whatever my adults were sold as.
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I would agree to some extent. But IMO there are differences in each line. The one zinccubus posted I would consider a lesser due to the black. I'm in florida and our butter line around here has no black. Although things have been mixed changed and somewhat confused if you spend enough time with each gene you will see the subtle differences. Below is my baby butter pastel female.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7be79f00e8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...85ea0ead7a.jpg
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I could post my half dozen lesser/butters and noone would guess who is who corectly based on coloring. They all vary even within so same clutch on light/darkness. Its all just guessing short of making sure I keep things labeled by whatever my adults were sold as.
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Again I agree with you. But when you have a butter, lesser bel have babies. I'm sure it's easy for some to mislabel and sell them. So as you or other receive them mislabeled and you continue it spreads and mixes. Something we will never be able to prevent or change. I have actually seen the same exact snake from the same business listed under 2 different genes just try to appeal to peoples wants. It's sad and we must be cautious as consumers and hobbyist.
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