Is this a cinnamon?

That’s what I am being told by the seller who also breeds. As in that it’s a cinnamon but she seems kinda dark to me but I’m told it can vary? Ahh someone help please haha.

Link to one of the photos: https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/sho...hp?i=58191&c=3


https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...7e30150e4.jpeg

Looks like a normal to me. My cinnamon had a more reduced ring pattern, and a browner color.

It looks like a cinny to me. I also cross referenced with two other breeder sites too.

You can only trust the word of the person owning the animal, yes some cinny are just dark and there is no gain in mislabeling cinny and black pastel.

Is a black pastel the same as a cinny?

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

Is a black pastel the same as a cinny?

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They are different morphs but produce similar combos (only with black pastel it's got a deeper/darker coloration and more contrast compare to cinny) they also have the same issues when it comes to supers or even 8 ball (cinny black pastel)

Ah cool. Thanks Deb.

Looks more cinnamon than black pastel to me, but I suppose it could go either way. I like my black pastels with a bit more business in the alienheads and more of a black/gold coloration. Either way, definitely not a normal.

Black pastels tend to have a lot more noise inside the rings - here's one of my hatchlings.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ckpastel02.jpg

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Originally Posted by the_rotten1

Looks more cinnamon than black pastel to me, but I suppose it could go either way. I like my black pastels with a bit more business in the alienheads and more of a black/gold coloration. Either way, definitely not a normal.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Black pastels tend to have a lot more noise inside the rings - here's one of my hatchlings.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ckpastel02.jpg

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^ this. agreed that it's a dark Cinny. very nice clean alien heads too. looks like some stuck shed on part of the body in the lower part of the pix tho.

The only reason I say it looks like a possible normal, is because I recently inquired about a snake that looked exactly like a cinnamon in pattern , but was bred twice and didn’t prove out! The breeder was calling it a “Dinker” because it was either a strange looking normal, or some weird recessive gene.