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  • 10-10-2005, 05:49 PM
    lars5277
    A new snake maybe
    I am wanting to get something to diversify my collection a little. I would like something that I can put into a 10 gallon tank. I know that means I am looking for something smaller. I would also like something that doesn't require high humidity maintenence. The guy at the petstore has a Carpet/Diamond Pythong mix. I was hoping some experts could chime in and let me know what might be best. I am also considering a corn snake. I do not want to make the same ill-informed decision I made with my Iggy.
    Thank you
  • 10-10-2005, 05:55 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Don't buy an animal for a cage, buy a cage for an animal.

    10 gallon? ... Low humidity? ... Hermit crab?

    -adam
  • 10-10-2005, 06:02 PM
    lars5277
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Hermit crabs kill each other. We had one little one that killed 2 larger ones. Pet store told us we could house them together.

    And is a Carpet/Diamond mix a real snake? I can't seem to "Google" a search on them.
  • 10-10-2005, 06:02 PM
    Shelby
    Re: A new snake maybe
    The only snake I can think of that can live it's life in a 10 gallon tank is a male kenyan sand boa. They can tolerate lower humidity, but you should shoot for 50%.

    I love my 3 sand boas.
  • 10-10-2005, 06:03 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lars5277
    Hermit crabs kill each other. We had one little one that killed 2 larger ones. Pet store told us we could house them together.

    In my post, hermit crab wasn't plural. ;)

    -adam
  • 10-10-2005, 06:03 PM
    Shelby
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lars5277
    Hermit crabs kill each other. We had one little one that killed 2 larger ones. Pet store told us we could house them together.

    And is a Carpet/Diamond mix a real snake? I can't seem to "Google" a search on them.

    Yes, they are hybrids.. they look like a diamond python but not as pretty (imo). They grow large, definitely not something that'll last in a 10g very long!
  • 10-10-2005, 08:38 PM
    Kizerk
    Re: A new snake maybe
    maybe a rosy boa? i've read in a herp magazine that they could be kept in a 10 g. but i could be wrong
  • 10-10-2005, 09:15 PM
    Aric
    Re: A new snake maybe
    I love my Diamond x Jungle carpet but they will not live in a 10 for very long. My girl is in a 30 and shes about to outgrow it. I would post pics of her but the site wont let me.
  • 10-10-2005, 09:18 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Yeah, carpet pythons can grow to lengths of 5-7 feet... definately not for a ten gallon tank! Spotted pythons are something you might look into... they stay small. Or milk snakes or kingsnakes... though you need to watch those, too, because some of them get pretty darn large.
  • 10-10-2005, 09:24 PM
    Shelby
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Kings and milks generally need a 20g when full grown. Corns also.
  • 10-10-2005, 09:49 PM
    Python-77
    Re: A new snake maybe
    a male sand could do a 10gal its life mabe even a small female. spotteds get to large for a 10gal a 20 will be min for them, and as shelby said milks, corns, kings are a min 20 gal as adults.
  • 10-10-2005, 09:52 PM
    Shelby
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Perhaps a male rosy boa as well. I don't know as much about those.. they don't tickle my fancy for some reason.
  • 10-10-2005, 10:42 PM
    lars5277
    Re: A new snake maybe
    I am trying to find a caresheet for the Spotted python now. I will also look at the boa mentioned above. I plan on ordering another cage like the one I keep my lizards in, but this one will be a 3 plex.
  • 10-10-2005, 10:50 PM
    Shelby
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Here's a children's python care sheet.. they are very closely related to spotted pythons, so the care is most likely comparable.

    http://www.reptilerooms.com/Sections...96-page-1.html
  • 10-10-2005, 10:54 PM
    lars5277
    Re: A new snake maybe
    My wife is going to love you guys, I just found about 6 more snakes I wanna get.
  • 10-10-2005, 11:15 PM
    Shelby
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Yeah it adds up. There are a total of 169 herp species I hope to have in my reptile zoo some day. I have the list if you don't believe me. :)
  • 10-11-2005, 08:00 AM
    TekWarren
    Re: A new snake maybe
    I just picked up a children's python this weekend to have something different. I have been researching and searching info about them for a while. There isn't alot out there but everything I am seeing says they are very hardy. I'm kinda suprised there are not more out there. The Childrens stay smaller than the spotted but if I'm not mistaken the spotted's keep their pattern better? From what I have read children's reach 2.5 - 3ft on average. I had my wife take a couple pics of mine last night I'll post later today.
  • 10-11-2005, 08:34 AM
    Colin Vestrand
    Re: A new snake maybe
    i'm a day late and a dollar short but i'll post this in case anyone's wondering...

    spotted's do keep their coloring better and generally are more relaxed and personable. they get about a foot longer than a childrens but have the same slim build. also, ben siegel has some for $50 each, that's cheap compared to every other i've seen.

    i also have a good care sheet if anyone's interested...

    edit: also, after reading that childrens python caresheet, spotted's are more different than you would think... probably because they're from two different parts of australia. i can email the spotted care sheet to anyone that wants it.
  • 11-26-2005, 04:56 AM
    Salty
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Spotted pythons get bigger than you might think. They get about 3 feet or more and are heavy bodied like some rat snakes I've seen. They are powerful constrictors, and have aggressive feeding responses.They fairly recently have been recognized as a seperate species than children's pythons, who stays smaller than these, but I would recommend at leat a 15gal.+ They are pretty forgiving from most of the literature I've read and people have told me they have had complete sheds w/out ever misting the cage, just changing the water bowl. I definately recommend either of the two species (As long as your okay w/ a snappy baby, who will require a lot of attention) though I've never owned a children's python.


    Sorry Shelby didn't see you ppost the children's python caresheet and all. Oh well g' luck w/ the decision.
  • 11-26-2005, 10:15 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: A new snake maybe
    Well when we were looking for a snake for Beth and wanting something that would do nicely in a 10 gallon for awhile we ended up choosing an Albino Nelson's Milksnake. If you haven't seen Beth's thread Lars (northerngirl05) check it out.....incredibly stunning looking snakes and a reasonable ease of care for a 12 year old (with supervision of course). We've been told they do tend to be nippy as babies but do settle in eventually. They range quite a lot in price but if you are interested let me know as I believe the gentleman we are buying from has a few left and he's very reasonably priced and raises lovely, healthy snakes. The normal Nelson's are also very nice looking but the Albino's just glow.

    Just another option LOL.


    ~~Jo~~
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