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  • 09-25-2018, 11:30 PM
    ben463
    Heat
    I recently got a new hide for my bp on her warm side it is always between 88/91 when she is in the hide. But when she goes into her other hide it drops down to 83 then eventually rises back up. I think when she goes in the hide she goes over the probe and lays on it which causes it to heat up, so basically I don’t think she has a warm hide right now . I was thinking I could get the probe to stick to the top of the hide, but I know some tapes are harmful to bps is regular paper tape harmful to? But will that temp be accurate because I know they get there heat from there belly and if I do that the probe won’t be on the ground.Her knew hide is smaller and tighter which I know they like better. I could put the old one back in and there would be more space for the probe and she may not possibly lay on it. Which one is my best option or do you guys have any better ideas.
  • 09-25-2018, 11:36 PM
    ben463
    Re: Heat
    Just thought of this but would burying the probe work?
  • 09-25-2018, 11:45 PM
    ErostheSnake
    Re: Heat
    Measure the temp of the glass under the hide with a temp gun.


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  • 09-26-2018, 02:44 AM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: Heat
    What kind of heat is being controlled by the probe that you're talking about? If it the UTH, the probe should be between the UTH and the enclosure. If it's for a heat lamp/CHE, I'd hang it down but not let it touch the ground. You can secure it with tape OUTSIDE the terrarium.

    In regards to the heat, BPs can get some of their heat from belly heat but you want to make sure that their ambient temps are within acceptable range (around 78-83). Even with belly heat, low ambient temps can cause sickness.
  • 09-26-2018, 07:47 AM
    Craiga 01453
    Are you talking about a thermoSTAT probe or thermoMETER probe?

    And PLEASE DO NOT USE TAPE
  • 09-26-2018, 09:58 AM
    ben463
    Re: Heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    Are you talking about a thermoSTAT probe or thermoMETER probe?

    And PLEASE DO NOT USE TAPE

    I have a heat pad that is on the glass outside the tank, and I’m using the probe that came with it.
  • 09-26-2018, 09:59 AM
    ben463
    Re: Heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mr. Misha View Post
    what kind of heat is being controlled by the probe that you're talking about? If it the uth, the probe should be between the uth and the enclosure. If it's for a heat lamp/che, i'd hang it down but not let it touch the ground. You can secure it with tape outside the terrarium.

    In regards to the heat, bps can get some of their heat from belly heat but you want to make sure that their ambient temps are within acceptable range (around 78-83). Even with belly heat, low ambient temps can cause sickness.

    uth
  • 09-26-2018, 10:37 AM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: Heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ben463 View Post
    I recently got a new hide for my bp on her warm side it is always between 88/91 when she is in the hide. But when she goes into her other hide it drops down to 83 then eventually rises back up. I think when she goes in the hide she goes over the probe and lays on it which causes it to heat up, so basically I don’t think she has a warm hide right now . I was thinking I could get the probe to stick to the top of the hide, but I know some tapes are harmful to bps is regular paper tape harmful to? But will that temp be accurate because I know they get there heat from there belly and if I do that the probe won’t be on the ground.Her knew hide is smaller and tighter which I know they like better. I could put the old one back in and there would be more space for the probe and she may not possibly lay on it. Which one is my best option or do you guys have any better ideas.

    If im reading this right then its your thermometer Probe your talking about not your thermostat?? .... when they lay on the probe for a Thermometer there body temp registers. So if she/he is 83 then the thermometers reads 83 until their body heats up...
    unless ive totally misunderstood what your saying.


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  • 09-26-2018, 11:09 AM
    ben463
    Re: Heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CALM Pythons View Post
    If im reading this right then its your thermometer Probe your talking about not your thermostat?? .... when they lay on the probe for a Thermometer there body temp registers. So if she/he is 83 then the thermometers reads 83 until their body heats up...
    unless ive totally misunderstood what your saying.


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    Sorry if I didn’t explain it good. I have a heat pad that is under the tank the heat pad is plugged into the thermostat. The thermostat is set at 91 degrees. There is a probe attachted to the thermostat and the probe lays on top of the coconut shavings in the hide. When she goes in the hide she goes over the probe and heats it up, so it says that it 91 in the hide when she is in there. But I don’t think that’s the actual temp because when she leaves the hide it drops to 83 then heats back up to 91.
  • 09-26-2018, 11:52 AM
    Jmarshall
    Re: Heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ben463 View Post
    Sorry if I didn’t explain it good. I have a heat pad that is under the tank the heat pad is plugged into the thermostat. The thermostat is set at 91 degrees. There is a probe attachted to the thermostat and the probe lays on top of the coconut shavings in the hide. When she goes in the hide she goes over the probe and heats it up, so it says that it 91 in the hide when she is in there. But I don’t think that’s the actual temp because when she leaves the hide it drops to 83 then heats back up to 91.

    the thermostat probe should not be in the enclosure; it should be sandwiched between the Uth and bottom of the tank. You may need to set it a few degrees higher to get the 90 degree temp you’re looking for inside he cage.
  • 09-26-2018, 12:09 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: Heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ben463 View Post
    Sorry if I didn’t explain it good. I have a heat pad that is under the tank the heat pad is plugged into the thermostat. The thermostat is set at 91 degrees. There is a probe attachted to the thermostat and the probe lays on top of the coconut shavings in the hide. When she goes in the hide she goes over the probe and heats it up, so it says that it 91 in the hide when she is in there. But I don’t think that’s the actual temp because when she leaves the hide it drops to 83 then heats back up to 91.

    Youve got the idea just wrong order..with the probe on top of your substrate it is not measuring the temperature of the heat pad or the glass which could be much hotter than the substrate above. If the substrate moves or the snake Burrows the ssnake canget burned. You must put the probe between the glass and your heat mat. Then you use a lazer thermometer or a thermometer with a probe on the inside glass floor of the tank under the substrate, never on top of your Wood chips or whatever your substrate is. This is why your temperature is getting all screwed up, the probe is not measuring your heat Mats temp. Thats dangerous. The Thermostat/probe reading should always be within a couple degrees of what you have it set for.


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  • 09-26-2018, 03:26 PM
    ben463
    Re: Heat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jmarshall View Post
    the thermostat probe should not be in the enclosure; it should be sandwiched between the Uth and bottom of the tank. You may need to set it a few degrees higher to get the 90 degree temp you’re looking for inside he cage.

    Ok!
  • 09-26-2018, 06:17 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: Heat
    Also when you check the Temp of the Matt inside the tank, check all different places as heat Tape/Mats etc.. have dif readings depending how the wire runs threw them. Take the hottest temp and use that as a guide. If your enclosure is glass you shouldnt need to set the tstat higher than what you want on the inside glass floor.. of course a thicker enclosure you may need 94 outside to get 91 inside like others mentioned, not so with glass.. and let it regulate for a few hours before you think its all set.. it can take a day before you get it just right..


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