New To Leo's: How To Handle
I just picked up a sub-adult Male Leo at the Chicgao NARBC Show. I have his environment pretty well situated, but am at a loss when it comes to handling.
I had to remove him from his enclosure due to some furniture moves and to move the temp-probe for his Ranco Temp controller and I'm totally confused on how to handle him.
I know I'm supposed to stay hands-off for a week (and I will if everything goes as planned), but when the time comes should I try to scoop him up under his chin letting his front-legs climb over me?
I'm scared TO DEATH of stressing him and having his Tail-Drop off while I'm trying to touch him.
He seems to make all the meal-worms disappear from his enclosure overnight (for the 2 nights I've had him), and makes trips to his calcium/vitamin dish and water bowl (I can see foot prints), and defecated the first night.
Signed - "How do I Pick Up Something With Legs and Eyelids"
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Leo's arent terrible hard to handle, they typicaly wont drop there tail unless they are totaly freaked out and you are holding them by it. I pick mine up in the mid body and they well all but one grab hold of me and climb on.
Look what happened to me with a leo bite
I use thick rubber gloves...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ge/fingers.jpg
That is NOT happening to me again!!!
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Re: New To Leo's: How To Handle
I saw foot prints in his Calcium supplement dish and his his repti-vite supplement dish. I use papertowles as a substrate with removeable layers in his regular poop-corner.
All of my enclosures have digital thermo/hydro indicators(a few analog may be hanging around from 'the early days' but aren't my 'real' indicators).
They all have Ranco temp-controllers with Oregon scientific probes near the substrate for checking on them from across the room.
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Originally Posted by mr~python
i noticed you said you saw footprints. are you using sand? sand is a big no-no. it can cause impactions in leos, mostly when they lick it when they want calcium.
Even the Calci-Sand is bad? I know sand is frowned upon, but the store owner assured me that this particular type was digestible and will never cause any problems. I haven't acquired my Leo yet (she's a beautiful and HUGE 1 and 1/2 year old), though the owner has kept her in Calci-Sand almost her entire life - should I return this big 25lb. bag and get carpet instead?
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Originally Posted by IamKaervek
Even the Calci-Sand is bad? I know sand is frowned upon, but the store owner assured me that this particular type was digestible and will never cause any problems. I haven't acquired my Leo yet (she's a beautiful and HUGE 1 and 1/2 year old), though the owner has kept her in Calci-Sand almost her entire life - should I return this big 25lb. bag and get carpet instead?
yes even calci saind is bad because when the leo's want calcium they'll lick the sand and thats bad because it can cause compaction, it doesnt matter what the sand is made of, it can still cause compaction. so if you have calci-sand i would switch to paper towels.
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Originally Posted by reptile-girl
compaction
i mean impaction
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i know some people use sand with success but i prefer paper towels for babies and juvies and newspaper for adult just to be totally safe and because it works better for my rack system than sand.
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Any experience with the greed carpet? The shop keeper told me that she's had problems with her Leos' claws snagging on the carpet, and causing distress in the animal. I already bought some carpet for my 20L tank, but it is about 6" short, so I figured I'd cover that part with paper-towels for the poop area. However, if the Leo is going to have issues with the carpet and her claws, I would rather not us it.
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i haven't used it for leos but i did use if for my cresteds for a while and i noticed that they snagged their teeth on it a lot when hunting crickets. they would basically have to tear their teeth out of it, which sometimes looked to be a bit of a struggle. i'm all about newspaper and/or paper towels. no matter how much you might not like the sound of it now, once you try it you will appreciate how fast and easy it makes cleaning and how safe it is for your animal.