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  • 09-05-2018, 05:55 AM
    redshepherd
    difference between F10SC and F10SCXD?
    What's the difference between the two? Reptile basics is out of stock on F10SC, so I'm wondering. It seems like F10SC isn't toxic and can be used in a fogger but F10SCXD is?

    Also, which one would be better or more cost efficient overall between chlorhexadine or F10SCXD?
  • 09-05-2018, 06:42 AM
    Valyrian
    Re: difference between F10SC and F10SCXD?
    F10SC is a disinfectant. The other one is a disinfectant AND cleaner.

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  • 09-05-2018, 08:25 AM
    bcr229
    XD = eXtra Detergent.
  • 09-05-2018, 02:19 PM
    Armiyana
    F10 antiseptic is the veterinary product that is recommended to use in a nebulizer. Most useful for treating birds so I'm sure reptiles are fine too.

    F10SC is still a cleaning agent that can be used in a fogger to disinfect rooms in the case of an outbreak of something like bird flu or parvo. People have been using it off label as a nebulizing agent. It is safe to use as a cleaner for pet products, but actually using it on the pet is a bit of a different matter.

    F10SCDX is the same as the F10SC but has detergent added to it to help with the particle cleaning. IE: poop removal.


    Some other concerns I would have....F10SC is labeled as rodentcide. And of course if not properly diluted, it can actually be toxic and cause eye damage. But that's true of a few other products as well.
    Edit: I know this is a weird trick people have been using for a while no with no problems, but not something I would personally risk with my own animals.
  • 09-05-2018, 02:42 PM
    Sonny1318
    I actually learned of it (F10SCDX) from the form. I been using it on my tanks, bowls and hides. It’s become the only cleaner I use. After I clean the tank with it, I wipe the tank with a barely wet towel. Comes out beautiful. It literally dissolves the most stubborn animal waste. I highly recommend it personally.
  • 09-05-2018, 03:04 PM
    Armiyana
    Oh yeah, for actual cleaning, these products work great! Now that I have a couple extra animals I added this year, I need to purchase more of it for tub and tank cleaning.
  • 09-05-2018, 03:10 PM
    redshepherd
    Thanks guys!!
    which one would be better between chlorhexadine or F10SCXD?
  • 09-05-2018, 03:32 PM
    Armiyana
    Chlorhexidine is actually fairly safe to use as a medical scrub or wound flush when needed. People can use it as a mouthwash and I was directed to use it for a severe burned ball python recently and he did great.

    So for actual like surface cleaning and disinfectant, I would think the F10SC would be a bit stronger. Especially given the antiviral properties at higher concentrations.
  • 09-05-2018, 04:09 PM
    redshepherd
    Great thanks! I'll get the F10 then since I mainly need a new good cleaner.
  • 09-07-2018, 07:50 AM
    greco
    Re: difference between F10SC and F10SCXD?
    I bought and use both.

    F10SC is a great disinfectant. Think Lysol, but safe for reptiles. I use it on my weighing tub, transport tubs, or basically any surface that a reptile has made brief contact with that looks clean but may have germs. I also use it to disinfect crested gecko enclosures/decor after cleaning them with plain hot water. I've heard you can put it (diluted properly of course) in a fogger to treat respiratory infections.

    F10SCXD is what I use on anything that is visibly dirty or obviously very germy, like dirty ball python tubs, rat thawing tubs, and feeding tongs. The extra detergent makes a difference when cleaning blood, poop, urate.

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  • 10-26-2018, 12:25 PM
    ckuhn003
    Re: difference between F10SC and F10SCXD?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greco View Post
    I bought and use both.

    F10SC is a great disinfectant. Think Lysol, but safe for reptiles. I use it on my weighing tub, transport tubs, or basically any surface that a reptile has made brief contact with that looks clean but may have germs. I also use it to disinfect crested gecko enclosures/decor after cleaning them with plain hot water. I've heard you can put it (diluted properly of course) in a fogger to treat respiratory infections.

    F10SCXD is what I use on anything that is visibly dirty or obviously very germy, like dirty ball python tubs, rat thawing tubs, and feeding tongs. The extra detergent makes a difference when cleaning blood, poop, urate.

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    Is there a reason why you would use F10SC over F10SCXD? If I'm going to buy one it seems to make sense to just go for the XD version. Also, is there a shelf life on these products after it's diluted.

    I've been using Chlorhexidine to spray down my BP and Boa enclosures and was thinking of switching since it's seems the majority on this site use F10 products.
  • 10-26-2018, 12:29 PM
    bcr229
    F10SC can be used in a nebulizer, F10SCXD can not.

    F10SCXD must be rinsed after use; your snake should not lie in the detergent. F10SC can be sprayed and allowed to dry without rinsing, and then it will continue to persist and act as a disinfectant in the enclosure.
  • 10-26-2018, 01:03 PM
    ckuhn003
    Re: difference between F10SC and F10SCXD?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    F10SC can be used in a nebulizer, F10SCXD can not.

    F10SCXD must be rinsed after use; your snake should not lie in the detergent. F10SC can be sprayed and allowed to dry without rinsing, and then it will continue to persist and act as a disinfectant in the enclosure.

    Thanks BCR229...

    I'm not trying to disagree with you but I saw this on the ReptileBasics site which I would guess was from F10:

    F10SCXD can be sprayed on and wiped off, no need to rinse. F10SCXD is a great regular cleaning tool with a surface cleaning formula. For the best bio security we recommend follow up disinfecting with F10SC on a regular basis.

    So I'm confused on which one to get. My cleaning method has been spot cleaning when poop or urates have been identified. This means I'll discard the solid waste and if it's noticeably wet, I'll scoop up the area of substrate and spray the floor area w/ Chlorhexidine. About every 3 months, I'll remove all the substrate and spray everything down w/ Chlorhexidine. Does that seem like enough?

  • 10-26-2018, 06:32 PM
    bcr229
    Re: difference between F10SC and F10SCXD?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ckuhn003 View Post
    F10SCXD can be sprayed on and wiped off, no need to rinse. F10SCXD is a great regular cleaning tool with a surface cleaning formula. For the best bio security we recommend follow up disinfecting with F10SC on a regular basis.

    You're right, I mis-spoke. I remembered that F10SCXD couldn't simply be applied and let dry but didn't remember that one could wipe it away rather than rinsing it. I clean my snake tubs in the bathtub if the snake has made a nasty mess in them so it's easier to just use the shower head to rinse them out.
  • 10-29-2018, 11:04 AM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: difference between F10SC and F10SCXD?
    I only use F10sc. You don’t have to rinse it out so it makes it easy for me...as far as stubborn stains from poop as long as you spray it and let it sit for a couple minutes I have no problems, then again I clean my enclosures regularly and never let stuff dry out and stick.


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