Salt and Pepper

This pair of mussurana, Boiruna maculata, arrived today as part of a trade deal. I've had my female pied for a couple years now and never got around to picking up a male so I jumped on the offer. As much as I like the pieds and super pieds, I can't deny the absolute beauty of the normal.

2017 super pied female(in shed):
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...pszv25uhl1.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...pssitrigvw.jpg

2016 normal male:
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psdyjlaqbv.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psgk3subhe.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps3azxlkza.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psareeuxhu.jpg


My pied female slurping down one of last years stillborn garters:
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psq2mz4e6s.jpg

John,

Awesome animals, but what exactly are they in english?

Kingsnakes?

Either way, good luck and keep us posted.

Very nice snakes,
I'd never heard of them either, just done a bit of reading on them and there pretty interesting and rear fanged and love to munch on other snakes
There colours are so cool

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Wow, we sure don't see these every day....I'm not normally a big fan of "pied" but that last pic, that female is :omg: & I really like the normal male too.

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Originally Posted by John1982

This pair of mussurana, Boiruna maculata, arrived today as part of a trade deal. I've had my female pied for a couple years now and never got around to picking up a male so I jumped on the offer. As much as I like the pieds and super pieds, I can't deny the absolute beauty of the normal.

2017 super pied female(in shed):
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...pszv25uhl1.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...pssitrigvw.jpg

2016 normal male:
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psdyjlaqbv.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psgk3subhe.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps3azxlkza.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psareeuxhu.jpg


My pied female slurping down one of last years stillborn garters:
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...psq2mz4e6s.jpg

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Absolutely stunning !


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Originally Posted by dakski

but what exactly are they in english?

Kingsnakes?

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They're kind of like the kings of central and south america. These specialize in feeding on other snakes(ophiophagy) in the wild and are even immune/resistant to the venom of their native vipers - these are bothrops destroyers - but are vulnerable to the venom of the corals as well as that of their own kind. Mussurana is the common name for snakes in the genus Clelia, which these used to be in until they got changed to Boiruna maculata. They're still called mussurana and sometimes false mussurana.

Thanks for sharing!!! Congrats on some super cool pickups!!
I dig those pieds, but the normal is simply stunning!!!!

Super cool and interesting, those are some really pretty snakes that I've also never heard of. Thanks for sharing!

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You have some of the most amazing and unique critters John. Where do you find this stuff that most of us have never even heard of?! :gj::bow:

I always like that species, and I really like that Super Pied, I don't recall seeing one of those before, stunning.

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The normal is outstanding. I wish I could get that coloration in a ball. Especially the eyes.

these are rear fanged, correct?
Really gorgeous, the black/red reminds me of an indigo

stunning animals. just more on my want list. i like how the Pied gene works on Musuranna's - Pieds and Super Pieds.

congrats on the new pickups.

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

these are rear fanged, correct?

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Correct

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Originally Posted by John1982

They're kind of like the kings of central and south america. These specialize in feeding on other snakes(ophiophagy) in the wild and are even immune/resistant to the venom of their native vipers - these are bothrops destroyers - but are vulnerable to the venom of the corals as well as that of their own kind. Mussurana is the common name for snakes in the genus Clelia, which these used to be in until they got changed to Boiruna maculata. They're still called mussurana and sometimes false mussurana.

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Congratulations John, you just made many many "wish-lists" a bit longer! :D

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

Where do you find this stuff that most of us have never even heard of?

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These kind of fell in my lap. A fellow bought a couple garter snakes from me and asked what else I kept. When I got to the female maculata he offered me these in exchange for some more garters. I had to dip into my holdback reserves but it was worth it!

Very pretty snakes! You know you have a cool species when even the normals look absolutely stunning! Its always nice to see a few more species that I can spend time at work researching...:D:snake:

BTW, while I'm not generally a big fan of pied (with a lot of white) or albino snakes, I really love the face coloration (silver-gray) on your super.
Can you "make" me one that's all that color... :wuv: purdy-pleeze?

I will have to agree John very nice! And I haven't heard of this species either, but you have me wanting to research them now! Thank you so much for sharing :)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

BTW, while I'm not generally a big fan of pied (with a lot of white) or albino snakes, I really love the face coloration (silver-gray) on your super.
Can you "make" me one that's all that color... :wuv: purdy-pleeze?

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I wish, but you do get that color for a few days every shed cycle, haha. A neat tidbit about pied maculata, it's a naturally occurring trait. A WC super male is the founding parent for a lot, if not all, of the captive lines. I've also found a picture of a roadkill pied that someone took in San Javier, Santa Fe.