Got a new BCI today

I picked up my first BCI today at an expo. Meet Cas, the male kahl sunglow boa.

Here he is:
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He's got some pretty orange outside his saddles near the tail which is cool
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Settling into his QT bin.
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His breeder sent me a picture of his mom, once they're done with the show this weekend I'll probably get a picture of dad as well. Not sure if the mom is sunglow or just albino (didn't ask and I'm not the best at morph ID'ing), but she has a lot of orange still as an adult, compared to the usual that I have seen of kahl line albinos.
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Great new pick up there,sunglows are so cool,mum looks like a sunglow to me especially with all that colour still
Congratulations again


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There's a local reptile shop that the owner has one of his personal boas on display and that's the morph they had. So, now I have one, haha. The one at the shop had far less orange left than Cas's mom does, so I'm very happy to have him. The orange is stunning in person.

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well it's obvious you've got the addiction. [emoji6] how many snakes u got now?

but CONGRATS!!!!! he looks beautiful. i'm sure he'll make a fantastic addition! love that coloring.

Very nice boa! Love the orange coloring... Believe me, this snake will be your favorite in your collection. I have 2 boas and love them to death!!!

@tttaylorrr - the 2 pickups today make 9 total snakes. We're locking it in here for a few years though. I got a great deal local on 4 lightly/barely used T8s in addition to 1 I had already, so I was sort of filling out the ranks/empty cages xD
2 corns, 2 balls, 1 milk, 2 very different king species, 1 sand boa, and 1 BCI.

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@tttaylorrr - the 2 pickups today make 9 total snakes. We're locking it in here for a few years though. I got a great deal local on 4 lightly/barely used T8s in addition to 1 I had already, so I was sort of filling out the ranks/empty cages xD
2 corns, 2 balls, 1 milk, 2 very different king species, 1 sand boa, and 1 BCI.

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what a wonderful collection! again, congrats!!!

That's a pretty morph!

Beautiful Sunglow! Mazel Tov! Great contrast and I am sure the pictures don't do him justice!

Is he a 2018 baby? How much does he weigh? He looks tiny!

His mother looks beautiful as well. I am by no means an expert, but from what I have seen, the mom looks Sunglow to me. As you said, the Sunglows tend to hold their color better than other albinos.

Behira, my female Ghost BCI, just turned two years old (she was a June 2016 baby) and is a good 950G. She was 440G when I got her at just over a year. They grow fast, but have a LOT of growing to do.

She's a sweetheart and will be a gentle giant ((she has become my favorite snake - SHHHHHH - don't tell Shayna (BP), Figment (adult corn), or Solana (tiny baby corn)). How's the temperament on your little guy?

Good luck and keep us up to date on his growth!

P.S. I just re-read the post and it seems this is your first BCI. I am still new to BCI's with Behira being my first. However, I've learned a lot, and there are quite a few Boa experts on here, some of whom have already posted (RichardHind1972). Ask as many questions as you have or want answered! We have a good group of Boa peeps on here who will chime in.

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Beautiful Sunglow! Mazel Tov! Great contrast and I am sure the pictures don't do him justice!

Is he a 2018 baby? How much does he weigh? He looks tiny!

His mother looks beautiful as well. I am by no means an expert, but from what I have seen, the mom looks Sunglow to me. As you said, the Sunglows tend to hold their color better than other albinos.

Behira, my female Ghost BCI, just turned two years old (she was a June 2016 baby) and is a good 950G. She was 440G when I got her at just over a year. They grow fast, but have a LOT of growing to do.

She's a sweetheart and will be a gentle giant ((she has become my favorite snake - SHHHHHH - don't tell Shayna (BP), Figment (adult corn), or Solana (tiny baby corn)). How's the temperament on your little guy?

Good luck and keep us up to date on his growth!

P.S. I just re-read the post and it seems this is your first BCI. I am still new to BCI's with Behira being my first. However, I've learned a lot, and there are quite a few Boa experts on here, some of whom have already posted (RichardHind1972). Ask as many questions as you have or want answered! We have a good group of Boa peeps on here who will chime in.

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He is a 2018 baby. The breeder wasn't sure at the show his birthday, but he's going to send me the info when he's back home after the show ends, and possibly a picture of the dad.

He weighs 84 grams! So so small. His breeder said he's around 3 months old. (Also, I'm 5'2" so I've got small hands as well)

I bought his only male sunglow on the table (he had 3 females as well). He was the only boa breeder at the show with any albinos at all. The other 3 or 4 tables that had boas were all hypos, jungles, and hets. I think 1 table had mostly surinames, so BCC I think.
Excepting one more table that looked like super high-end morphs and had no prices marker. (Had an all black and all white boa as NFS on display and a few others. Possibly a blood? I'm not sure)

My favorite changes day by day, honestly. (Not that I don't love them all!!) My honduran milk snake has probably been my favorite lately due to his very calm temperament (not usual for a milk from what I've heard, ha) and easy handling. He has been easy going, if a bit more head shy (I think albino = poor eye sight, so he doesnt see it coming hardly at all) than most of my others, since I brought him home. He was 20 grams in March (not sure if that makes him 2017 or 2018...) and is now pushing 80-85 grams feeding about 10-13% by weight.

So far I've only handled Cas for a few minutes to get pictures and weigh before letting him settle, so he was a little cool from the show still. He was pretty calm overall, though both at home and at the show he decided he wanted to get away/get to the table in front of me and moved a bit quicker for that, but nothing compared to my colubrids nor what I suspect would be his full speed. He was determined to check some things out, I think. He came out of the bag much like Vega my banana BP did.. easily in a palm-sized ball, and right around the opening decided he didn't want to leave and tried to make his way back into the bag.

From the breeder's description. The mom is around 6-6.5 feet and fairly girthy and the dad is probably 5 feet or so and substantially leaner. I suspect the dad is pretty young since the 6 foot male they have at a local reptile store (owners personal pet) is a good deal thicker at 5-6 years old.

I'm sure I will have questions. I like to think I've learned a lot watching some of the threads on here, including Behira's.

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Very nice indeed, so vibrant. Congratulations!

Once he’s settled in in and had a few feed with you you will be able to start handling regular, on the whole boas are pretty chilled
My sunglow is 2.5 years old and from a 3rd generation dwarf blood line, mum and dad are both under 5ft
She’s kept a fair bit of colour and got loads of peach and pink on her sides
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He is a 2018 baby. The breeder wasn't sure at the show his birthday, but he's going to send me the info when he's back home after the show ends, and possibly a picture of the dad.

He weighs 84 grams! So so small. His breeder said he's around 3 months old. (Also, I'm 5'2" so I've got small hands as well)

I bought his only male sunglow on the table (he had 3 females as well). He was the only boa breeder at the show with any albinos at all. The other 3 or 4 tables that had boas were all hypos, jungles, and hets. I think 1 table had mostly surinames, so BCC I think.
Excepting one more table that looked like super high-end morphs and had no prices marker. (Had an all black and all white boa as NFS on display and a few others. Possibly a blood? I'm not sure)

My favorite changes day by day, honestly. (Not that I don't love them all!!) My honduran milk snake has probably been my favorite lately due to his very calm temperament (not usual for a milk from what I've heard, ha) and easy handling. He has been easy going, if a bit more head shy (I think albino = poor eye sight, so he doesnt see it coming hardly at all) than most of my others, since I brought him home. He was 20 grams in March (not sure if that makes him 2017 or 2018...) and is now pushing 80-85 grams feeding about 10-13% by weight.

So far I've only handled Cas for a few minutes to get pictures and weigh before letting him settle, so he was a little cool from the show still. He was pretty calm overall, though both at home and at the show he decided he wanted to get away/get to the table in front of me and moved a bit quicker for that, but nothing compared to my colubrids nor what I suspect would be his full speed. He was determined to check some things out, I think. He came out of the bag much like Vega my banana BP did.. easily in a palm-sized ball, and right around the opening decided he didn't want to leave and tried to make his way back into the bag.

From the breeder's description. The mom is around 6-6.5 feet and fairly girthy and the dad is probably 5 feet or so and substantially leaner. I suspect the dad is pretty young since the 6 foot male they have at a local reptile store (owners personal pet) is a good deal thicker at 5-6 years old.

I'm sure I will have questions. I like to think I've learned a lot watching some of the threads on here, including Behira's.

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Awwww, shucks. I am glad you have learned from Behira's thread, as have I. I've also learned from other users on here who have far more experience than I do.

BCI's seem a little more active than BP's, but not crazy active like many colubrids. Figment, my Hypo Lavender corn is very active. He doesn't' sit still for two seconds. However, he doesn't have a mean or defensive bone in his body. Totally docile, just active. My BP Shayna seems more active than many BP's I've seen, but that's not saying much. A little curious, but also somewhat shy. Solana the baby corn snake, is actually really calm for her age. She's less active when being handled than Figment, but again, neither have a mean or defensive side.

Behira can be active and want to go in X direction, but she takes redirection well, and once she explores for a few, is happy to chill. She is super brave and has virtually no fear. She lets me rub her head and chin, etc. Doesn't care. I don't make a habit of it, but it's interesting that nothing really seems to bother her. She's also the most inquisitive and seemingly has the most personality.

You've fed colubrids, so you know about a strong feeding response. Good. BCI's are known for having a very strong food response. I started hook training at 600G and should have done it sooner :). Behira has a similar strike response to Figment; she's on the prey fast. However, unlike Figment, she will get excited as soon as she thinks food is coming and nail the acrylic doors, etc. She also hits much harder than Figment did when they were the same weight. Now she weighs almost twice as much and is on her way to 13-15X his size.

Just think colubrid food response X 2 and with a very large snake.

Otherwise, BCI's are a breeze to handle. I got to hold a 5 year old female, a momma, at the last NH reptile expo. She was about 7,000G (15+ pounds) and about 7 FT. Gentle giant. Awesome experience. Really excited about Behira getting big now and not so scared.

Behira's dad was 5ft+ and her mom was over 7FT. I am expecting a big girl.

Anyway, we are here to help and I hope your experience with Cas continues to be positive and lasts a lifetime.

Keep us in the loop! He's so pretty and it's going to be awesome watching him grow!

I'll just add my congratulations on your gorgeous new pet! I've only had one BCI before, she was docile with me, loved to cuddle & fed spectacularly ;).
I love that you have a varied collection of snakes, as that's how I am too...unable to love just one kind...they're all awesome in their own ways. :snake:

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Awwww, shucks. I am glad you have learned from Behira's thread, as have I. I've also learned from other users on here who have far more experience than I do.

BCI's seem a little more active than BP's, but not crazy active like many colubrids. Figment, my Hypo Lavender corn is very active. He doesn't' sit still for two seconds. However, he doesn't have a mean or defensive bone in his body. Totally docile, just active. My BP Shayna seems more active than many BP's I've seen, but that's not saying much. A little curious, but also somewhat shy. Solana the baby corn snake, is actually really calm for her age. She's less active when being handled than Figment, but again, neither have a mean or defensive side.

Behira can be active and want to go in X direction, but she takes redirection well, and once she explores for a few, is happy to chill. She is super brave and has virtually no fear. She lets me rub her head and chin, etc. Doesn't care. I don't make a habit of it, but it's interesting that nothing really seems to bother her. She's also the most inquisitive and seemingly has the most personality.

You've fed colubrids, so you know about a strong feeding response. Good. BCI's are known for having a very strong food response. I started hook training at 600G and should have done it sooner :). Behira has a similar strike response to Figment; she's on the prey fast. However, unlike Figment, she will get excited as soon as she thinks food is coming and nail the acrylic doors, etc. She also hits much harder than Figment did when they were the same weight. Now she weighs almost twice as much and is on her way to 13-15X his size.

Just think colubrid food response X 2 and with a very large snake.

Otherwise, BCI's are a breeze to handle. I got to hold a 5 year old female, a momma, at the last NH reptile expo. She was about 7,000G (15+ pounds) and about 7 FT. Gentle giant. Awesome experience. Really excited about Behira getting big now and not so scared.

Behira's dad was 5ft+ and her mom was over 7FT. I am expecting a big girl.

Anyway, we are here to help and I hope your experience with Cas continues to be positive and lasts a lifetime.

Keep us in the loop! He's so pretty and it's going to be awesome watching him grow!

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I actually have a small extendable hook (I think it gets 26", but too flimsy for lifting more than 1 kg I would guess) I picked up at a pet store. I was thinking I'd just use it from the start as a "hey, it's me. No food here" signal, not for picking up. Just to get in the habit of it from the start and see how it goes.

I bet that he'll be the strongest feeder of the bunch before long. My largest/longest otherwise will be my honduran milk snake, I think, since both my BPs are male.

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I actually have a small extendable hook (I think it gets 26", but too flimsy for lifting more than 1 kg I would guess) I picked up at a pet store. I was thinking I'd just use it from the start as a "hey, it's me. No food here" signal, not for picking up. Just to get in the habit of it from the start and see how it goes.

I bet that he'll be the strongest feeder of the bunch before long....

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Count on it, lol...and yes, "hook training" is a good idea, assuming you can open the cage to touch him with the hook before he launches... :rofl:
(but starting while he's small is the way to go...they certainly learn our routines)

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I actually have a small extendable hook (I think it gets 26", but too flimsy for lifting more than 1 kg I would guess) I picked up at a pet store. I was thinking I'd just use it from the start as a "hey, it's me. No food here" signal, not for picking up. Just to get in the habit of it from the start and see how it goes.

I bet that he'll be the strongest feeder of the bunch before long. My largest/longest otherwise will be my honduran milk snake, I think, since both my BPs are male.

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I never pick Behira up with the hook. I just stroke her with it (actually the handle) to let her know there is no food and it’s handling time. I read her body language. 90% of the time, a couple gentle strokes is all it takes. If she seems to have food on the brain, I often do a few extra strokes and/or show her the hook handle a few inches from her face. Between getting strokes and seeing/smelling the handle, she always relaxes. The other day she was eyeing my movement and in the “S” position. Head off the ground. It took 5-6 strokes and on a few different parts of her body, but ultimately, she uncoiled and put her head down. I picked her right up.

Keep in mind, the one time she nailed me hoping for a rat (at 600g), she got me top and bottom, and it drew blood, but I didn’t feel it. She immediately let me pick her up and realized as soon as she nailed me, I was not a rat. Cas will be totally hook trained well before he could ever do any damage.

Same as dakski, I either stroke my snake with the hook or just turn there heads away with the hook if there near the glass and get them out with my hands.most of the time if there head is isnt in strike range I just stroke them with my hand and lift them out

I never pick them up with it either

Hook training is deffo a good idea


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That's what I was planning for the hook, but thanks for the confirmation! I was trying to give an idea how small the hook is, I guess. Haha. It's pocket sized when fully collapsed.

Since tonight is my usual feed night, and I have the hopper mice already, I thawed an extra to see if he would take it. Answer: yes, but only rear-end first.
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(His bin is in the T8 he will probably graduate to when he's bigger. The table in that room is right under a vent and the ambients outside it were 72-77 depending if A/C was running or not, so inside the cage has a higher more stable ambient temperature ~78)

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Wow! Ate already! He's going to be an awesome Boa for you! Way to go Cas!

I use a 3ft hook with Behira but hold the hook part about 6 inches down, so it's really a 2 1/2FT hook. Again, I rub her with the soft handle.

That's plenty for when she's a really big girl. Again, it's how you maneuver it and if you train him when he's little, he will know what to expect when he's bigger and it won't matter.

Awesome on the feeding tonight!

Update time!

Cas is doing really well so far. He's taken 3 meals, all F/T hoppers, no trouble at all. The 3rd one, I caught him with his head up the front wall waiting for it and grabbed it as soon as it was into the gap I lifted the lid on the tub. Pretty powerful for his now 110 grams, but not yet more force than a ~1,350 gram adult BP. That'll change with time, I'm sure.
So far, I've found 2 poops, so everything is working good. No signs of mites (pre-treated with the P.A.M. before I bought him).

Due to some shuffling with the other snakes I needed to do, he's now upgraded hanging out in a 37-qt 6-latch sterilite gasket bin with reptile prime, still in the quarantine room. I'll drop a picture or two from mobile after this post goes up.


Now, oddball question for those of you who have had baby boas. Did any of them have any odd aversions to textures or touch?
He's just under 2 months old now, and he seems to not like touching arm hair on myself or my husband. If he touches his head to it on accident, he recoils from it and acts offended for a second, and then just moves on like nothing happened (and avoiding the arm/arm hair). If you set his front half onto the top side of an arm, he will gradually but promptly start lifting his whole front half a quarter inch or so off the surface of your arm, just past where he would touch the hair. He leaves his back half touching, but doesn't sit still there (nor much of anywhere else at this point). And if you bring an arm instead of a hand up under as he moves forward, he will back off from moving forward and just side-eye it like a dog poop on a sidewalk that you almost stepped into. It's the strangest thing.
It doesn't seem like it's a sign of any sort of problem, more like an odd quirk of personality and inexperience with the texture on his part. He does seem to be reacting less strongly the more we gently get him into contact with it, so I think it will go away with time, if not with him gaining size. Just wanted to know if anyone else has seen this in baby boas before?

The pics I promised!

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He decided he wanted into the cup. It was empty, so why not. He promptly climbed back out after realizing there isn't another exit. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ea0161e3f0.jpg

Other "odd" quirk. He ignores his hides more often that not and just makes a noodle pile against walls or in corners. From posts I've seen here, not a super uncommon thing for a boa, although maybe less common in a baby... he uses them for a day after eating and then patrols around or curls up in the open like this. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...cf4fd7512c.jpg

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That's very strange, I've never seen or heard of a snake with an aversion to arm texture...if anything, it makes for better traction, which is a good thing for
animals that hang on without hands & feet. What a quirky personality...love to have updates (to know if he outgrows it)? That would be like a wild snake
hesitating to crawl on grass? :rolleyes: As if he's hyper-sensitive to touch?

Pretty girl, hope you have a great amount of fun with that new boa!

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That's very strange, I've never seen or heard of a snake with an aversion to arm texture...if anything, it makes for better traction, which is a good thing for
animals that hang on without hands & feet. What a quirky personality...love to have updates (to know if he outgrows it)? That would be like a wild snake
hesitating to crawl on grass? :rolleyes: As if he's hyper-sensitive to touch?

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I would guess he's sensitive. I don't really know. He has no issues in his bin climbing all over ceramic, plastic hides, the bin itself, plastic plant, nor a grapevine branch or reptile prime. He's touchy about his tail, twitches away when touched if he isn't anchoring with it, but that's fading and normal for young snakes I've seen from my others anyway.

The Complete Boa Constrictor pdf/book makes mention of their "scales" and says they aren't really scales and are just tough skin folds, so I had wondered if that may contribute if he can just feel it better than other species.

I also wonder what his breeder kept him on. Probably newspaper or Kraft paper.. I had newspaper for the first 2 weeks to make sure mites weren't present (pre treated with the PAM), but switched over to reptile prime a few days ago. He doesn't seem bothered by it, so maybe he will just get used to odd textures or whatever. If he hadn't had loose substrate all his life, hair may be a really odd or new sensation for him.

I can't imagine it will bother him as he gets bigger. Surely it just won't register when he gets more size than 110 grams. (It would be a comical sight.. 5 foot boa refuses to touch arm hair)


I had an odd thought though. I normally have pretty "cold" hands. Several degrees cooler than most of my body. I wonder if it may be the temp difference in the 2, hand vs arm... all of the snakes are more flighty with my husband since he doesnt handle them as much and is less confident about it, so I hadn't considered that it could just be him warmer than me... random speculation here.

I'll definitely keep this thread posted on any changes.
And I'd love to hear if anyone else has heard of something like this or if it may just be a quirky snake.

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Looking really good,I love my sunglow too, there colours are so cool.
I had a shaggy rug that my snakes really hated and would kinda like do the same and try lift different body parts of it.they must have some sort of sensors on the tummy. even when they on a flat surface they flatten them selves out to get get some sort of grip.
little boas are so cool, really glad he's nice and chilled already, keep them pics coming

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A lot of my pythons react pretty strongly when they graze their face to the side of my arm. I always figured it was just like a quick sensory overload from my heat.

Cas is such a beautiful snake! Am I remembering correctly that you picked him up from an expo? Was it Jacksonville?

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A lot of my pythons react pretty strongly when they graze their face to the side of my arm. I always figured it was just like a quick sensory overload from my heat.

Cas is such a beautiful snake! Am I remembering correctly that you picked him up from an expo? Was it Jacksonville?

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I kinda figure that reaction comes from relatively poor eye sight and not expecting the touch even when they did it themselves. My 2 BPs will do it, as does my albino honduran milksnake.
Cas and his aversion to hair is less reflexive than that unless in combination with an accidental face-touch by him.

I did get him at an expo, but I'm not anywhere near Jacksonville. I got him at the Lone Star Reptile Expo in Arlington, TX.

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He's enough of a handful by virtue of being active that it is tough to photograph him and hold him simultaneously. But here's a relatively clear face shot from last week. :)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a4aead8f87.jpg

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A lot of my pythons react pretty strongly when they graze their face to the side of my arm. I always figured it was just like a quick sensory overload from my heat.

Cas is such a beautiful snake! Am I remembering correctly that you picked him up from an expo? Was it Jacksonville?

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Might be a reaction to the hair on your arm?

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Might be a reaction to the hair on your arm?

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That's what I said I think it is with mine further up the thread. No reaction to the under side of my arm, only the top side.

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Now, oddball question for those of you who have had baby boas. Did any of them have any odd aversions to textures or touch?

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yes, I've seen this before with baby boas, just randomly and not very often. They seem to grow out of it as they age and get more confident.
Your little one is looking great!

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yes, I've seen this before with baby boas, just randomly and not very often. They seem to grow out of it as they age and get more confident.
Your little one is looking great!

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I'm glad to hear it isn't unheard of, even if it isn't really common! Did you notice if the babies that react like that tend to use hides more than others?

My guy seems to like sitting next to them or in corners of the bin instead of in the hides. If it is a confidence thing, I would have thought there may be a relation to using hides more as a baby.

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I didn't realize that albinos and sunglows often dull out some when they grow up so that's useful to know.

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I'm glad to hear it isn't unheard of, even if it isn't really common! Did you notice if the babies that react like that tend to use hides more than others?

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No, but I didn't really look for this (I didn't notice who used their hides more than others in litters that were born here). I used a rack system for babies so not super easy to see if or when they were in the hides.
Sometimes they'll sit in the corners because it feels more secure (more of the body touching surfaces) than actually being in the hide.

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I didn't realize that albinos and sunglows often dull out some when they grow up so that's useful to know.

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Yes, colors fade and all boas get yellow coloration as they age so albinos/sunglows (since missing the black) get very yellow as adults. Definetely good information to know :)
For example, here's an albino I produced a while ago, as a baby:
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As a young adult:
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It would he hard to check in a rack. Just curious.

I saw a boa at a local shop, an adult male sunglow according to the worker. It was very very yellow with very little orange, even on the tail. He is owned by the store owner and is just a display animal in the back area. I wonder some if it is a sunglow and not just albino due to how little orange he has as an adult. I dunno.

I think I posted Cas's mom earlier in the thread, but here's that picture again. She's an adult sunglow, so hopefully Cas will hold his orange like her despite being kahl strain (kahl has weaker adult colors as far as I hear, at least compared to the sharp line)
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Of my little boas wasn’t in there hides unless in shed or just eaten so was on show a lot
This is my little sunglow when I first had her she is a Kahl sunglow too
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...06093e3545.png and this is her now at two and half she still has a fair bit of orange
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Yeah, I wonder about the one at the store now. It looks much more like the adult albino picture that April posted above. Just a little light orange along the tail and none anywhere else.

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Parents genetics will play a big role in how nice the babies will turn out. Yours has a good looking sunglow mom that kept a lot of color so chances are yours will as well.
The mom of the bino baby I posted was a big yellow banana, she had no tail color to speak of and that baby was the one with the most color. The sunglow you saw at the store might be an albino but it could very well be a sunglow, just one that didn't hold much color.
I think your little one will turn out very nice as an adult
:)

The breeder I bought from was the ONL one at the expo with any albino or sunglows at all. There were a few albinos, 3 female sunglows siblings to mine and Cas was the only male sunglow. I didn't want the size of a female just yet (or ever... we shall see).
Even if the momma is 6 or 6.5 foot according to the breeder. Dad is only 5 foot.

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Due to shuffling, I managed to free up a herpstat for the RHP in the T8 on my QT room. So, Cas got upgraded to a full T8.
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He was more than happy to eat and seems to like the space. He seems to already know the schedule since he was ready for his mouse before I even brought it in to thaw, but he never does it on any day except feed day
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He can be tough to spot in the cypress/reptile prime mix though.. yes there is a snake in this shot.
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And last night he decided to explore the sliding door track. He was not stuck, but it certainly looks like it. He got himself out a little while after I took pictures.
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Since my last post Cas has shed for the first time for me! He went dull early last week, turning an almost pink color instead of orange, and took what felt like forever to finally shed. I left him completely alone except to offer food Sunday night, which he took after a few minutes of wiggling.

He shed a 100% perfect shed early Tuesday morning, which I even managed to unroll without any tears. Woohoo!

He is now weighing in a 138 grams.

I had him out for a minute the first day I noticed he was getting dull and snapped a picture of the color difference.
Lighting in the bathroom is better than the room light, and the 2nd one is using his white cage LEDs a few days later.
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Here he is Tuesday afternoon showing off his bright colors!
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Cas is lookin good!

The colours really pop on a sunglow after a shed, looking great, glad he is doing well for you


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