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  • 09-29-2005, 10:38 PM
    lars5277
    Two Bearded Dragons
    I met the guy who is building my Iggy cage, and he offered me a cage he already has. He also offered me two Bearded Dragons. I should be getting it all sometime this weekend. He is a breeder up here in North Dakota. He has tons of orange morph dragons. He is giving me the whole set up and the dragons for $425. He also volunteers at the local zoo and taught me a lot about the dragons and the Iggy. The dragons are a gift for my wife.
  • 09-29-2005, 11:56 PM
    Sassafrass
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    Oh how cool! Beardies are such awesome critters (I should know, I have 22 of them right now). Congrats! And post pics! :)
  • 09-30-2005, 12:05 AM
    lars5277
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    I will post the pics when I get them. I got a chance to hold them both tonight. They were both very gentle and calm. Several were tapping at the glass waiting to be held. He was going to sell them to make more room for his morphs, so I asked if I could take them off his hands. I hope to have everything here in the house this weekend. I will have pics up as soon as they are here. I bet he had over 100 beardys in his basement. I could have stayed there longer than the two hours I did easily.
  • 09-30-2005, 12:18 AM
    Sassafrass
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    You are gonna have so much fun with them! They are very sweet, and LOVE attention, as you found out.

    Can't wait to see pics! :)
  • 10-01-2005, 07:41 PM
    lars5277
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    Ok folks, heres the new beardys. The breeder I got them from was working a deal on the two adults he was going to give me, so he gave me these three instead. He asked $60 for all three of them, wich sounded very fair to me. He said he didnt know thier sex yet, but here they are. I will let the wife name them tonight. There is also a pic of thier new viv. The Iggy will go on top and the beardys will go on the bottom. I still need to find some more wood for thier cages, I am going to hit some wooded areas this weekend. The new viv measures 5.5'H x 4'W x 2'D. I think this will work for all the lizards I have.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../0/beardy1.JPG
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/files/2/2/1/0/viv2.JPG
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/files/2/2/1/0/viv1.JPG
  • 10-01-2005, 09:04 PM
    Sassafrass
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    Wow. Nice cage, and good looking beardies!

    You NEEED to find out the sexes. If more than one is a male, you will have to seperate them. Otherwise there will be fighting. Also, even if only one is male, you will still need to seperate him from the females. You dont want them breeding before 2 years of age. Its very dangerous for the girls. They can become egg bound, which is potentially fatal, and early breeding also shortens their life span.

    Here is a good link to help you determine the sexes.

    http://www.dachiu.com/sexing.html

    If you have any questions, feel free to PM me, or IM me on ISnuggleDragons on AIM, or Magickal1969 on yahoo.
  • 10-02-2005, 10:14 PM
    lars5277
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
  • 01-02-2006, 01:55 PM
    lars5277
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    I have a stupid question and can't find it mentioned anywhere on the board. Do beardies soak? I just caught Sargon (my biggest one taking a bath). I know that BPs will for mites. I go over all my animals frequently looking for odditites like mites. Every once in a while they like a drink, so we keep very shallow water dishes in thier cages. I have never seen or heard of them soaking though. Is this normal?
  • 01-02-2006, 02:56 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    a water dish isn't needed or recommended in a dragon enclosure... but they do like either a bath or misting! personally i bathe mine once a week at most since i feed silkworms and they are so high in fluids.

    soaking assists with constipation (as most dragons will poop in their bath water LOL) and helps with shedding as well...

    dragons do need to be single in their enclosures, just like bps... as they will dominate the other dragon(s) and often it leads to not eating and stress etc. if they are sleeping in a clump... that's dominance not cuddling. they are solitary critters in the wild coming together only for breeding.

    there's some great links with info on my link page here:

    http://www.timelessspirit.com/enclosurelinks.html

    congrats on your new babies!!! they are soooooooooo cute.
  • 01-02-2006, 06:49 PM
    lars5277
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    I am a bit confused by your post. You say water dishes aren't needed, but you say soaking aids in shedding and constipation problems. We have one of the dragons separated. I am getting a cage and separating the other two shortly. Stumpy was mean and dragging Draco around by his foot. We have had them for three months now and they are a little bigger than in the pics. I don't power feed for size or anything, because I don't plan on breeding them. Although, Stumpy has a pumpkin orange color and Sargon has bright yellow markings. It just seems like a lot of work and doesn't seem to be much of a market for them.

    Back to the subject, is the water dish bad for them? If it aids them in certain areas it doesn't seem like it could hurt them. We keep it real shallow, just want to give them the option if they choose to take it. How do you bathe them? Hold them under the water, or put them in a shallow bowl? We don't normally bathe our herps. I used to bathe Salina before sheds, but since I made the humid hide she keeps shedding well.
  • 01-02-2006, 09:19 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    in the bath tub!

    some nasty bacteria can grow from having a water dish in their enclosure which is very harmful to them (can't remember what type). it's also why it's recommended you never mist them in their enclosure either.
  • 01-02-2006, 09:55 PM
    Sassafrass
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    I keep a shallow bowl of water in the cage during the day. I take it out at night, so no one decides to sleep in it. They will run through it, drink out of it, soak in it, and poop in it (I change it when they poop in it of course). I also normally bathe the babies every other day. I use a small steralite for the babies, but I put the bigger ones in the bathtub. They all also love to be misted. The babies come running to the front of their cage when they see me with the spray bottle! There is nothing wrong with misting in cage, as long as the substrate you use doesn't hold water.

    Heres Punkin, poolside:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...s/poolside.jpg

    As for dragons being solitary animals, I'll go with that for males. Most males will fight when they are together. However, females, do fine most of the time in groups. There are the occassional females who prefer to be alone, but most love company. For example, one of my females, Monster, was a very slow to start baby. She didnt like being alone. As soon as she got big enough, I put her in with Inkk and she did a 180. She started eating like a champ, and growing like a weed. She and Inkk were hardly ever apart. They basked together, slept together, ate together, everything. After Snoogins joined them, they were still inseperable. They were always in close proximity of each other. When Inkk died, Monster got depressed. She still isn't herself. I'm hoping that she will perk back up come springtime, that her being in partial brumation has something to do with it.

    Inkk and Monster together:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...onsterbuds.jpg
  • 01-02-2006, 10:02 PM
    lars5277
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recycling goddess
    a water dish isn't needed or recommended in a dragon enclosure...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recycling goddess
    but they do like either a bath or misting! personally i bathe mine once a week at most since i feed silkworms and they are so high in fluids.

    soaking assists with constipation (as most dragons will poop in their bath water LOL) and helps with shedding as well...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recycling goddess
    in the bath tub!

    some nasty bacteria can grow from having a water dish in their enclosure which is very harmful to them (can't remember what type). it's also why it's recommended you never mist them in their enclosure either.

    The above three statements contradict themselves. Bacteria can grow in any water, even a BPs water bowl, that is why you clean them out often. Baby beardies (which is what I have), need water to grow. When you post contradictory statements like that you can really confuse people.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by recycling goddess
    dragons do need to be single in their enclosures, just like bps... as they will dominate the other dragon(s) and often it leads to not eating and stress etc. if they are sleeping in a clump... that's dominance not cuddling. they are solitary critters in the wild coming together only for breeding.

    This is not entirely true, beardies are social animals. Males will fight and I separate mine from the females cause I don't want them breeding.
  • 01-02-2006, 10:45 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: Two Bearded Dragons
    sorry you read it that way. i was saying that they don't need water dishes... they do like to be misted or bath (in the bath tub) once a week, outside of their enclosure. :)

    and as for them being social animals... i have never read any information to agree with that statement... sorry but i can only share what i know... and what i know is that they are solitary critters. ;)

    in light,
    aleesha
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