Was it a sign???

So I'm sure many of you saw that my Craigslist deal fell through, so no new enclosures...and no boa.

This has me thinking it fell through for a reason, maybe like a "sign from the snake gods", hahaha. But seriously, I wonder if it fell through for a reason...

As many of you know, my limitations have been updated to include slightly bigger snakes than my girlfriends previous 5 foot rule.
So I've been thinking boa or bredlis/carpet pythons. Well, I think this is a sign that I should go python, be it bredlis or carpet.
I guess I'm weird like that and see things like this situation and say "it wasn't meant to be". So I'm reading further into it and thinking maybe I should stay python exclusive (with my colubrid exceptions). I'm thinking more than ever I want a Bredli or a carpet, so maybe that's my next two. After that, I'll be just about maxed out, but will maybe have room to add a second of whichever my favorite species ends up being...

Just my thoughts at this point. Feel free to chime in with your thoughts if you'd like.

Thanks for reading...

I’m all about fate and destiny....this was a total sign and this is why I’m moving forward with my T [emoji39]


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Get a hatchling Burm which will be under 5 feet when you buy it. Problem solved [emoji6]

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Nothing wrong with brediis or carpets...I happen to think they're awesome. :gj: I think you dodged a disaster with that CL "deal".

I can totally relate and agree and believe in signs and things being or not being meant to be...

3 of my snakes actually came from me reaching out when they were on hold and deals falling through. People not making good on payment plans

one didn’t tell the breeder they were over seas and there was an issue finding a shipper.

Whatever it may be... I feel they were meant to come to me and I have them


that being said. As much as I want a carpet myself. Don’t give up on boas man

thqt boa wasn’t meant to be. Not the species in general. They are killer and once you go boa you may not go back ;)

I'm thinking of getting a baby female BCI, I've got everything I need from when my Burm was younger. What's the growth rate like from year to year?

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Craigslist is a terrible place to get animals, most are poorly cared for and the owners tend to be.... not so classy, so I think you should still get a boa, just from a more reputable source.

At least this way you will get the snake of dreams rather than someone else’s cast offs with possible inherited problems
Think fate had intervened and didn’t want you to have second best mate


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sure the animal might have been mistreated, but in no way is that the animals fault. and in no way do I see that making them second anything.

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

So I'm sure many of you saw that my Craigslist deal fell through, so no new enclosures...and no boa.

This has me thinking it fell through for a reason, maybe like a "sign from the snake gods", hahaha. But seriously, I wonder if it fell through for a reason...

As many of you know, my limitations have been updated to include slightly bigger snakes than my girlfriends previous 5 foot rule.
So I've been thinking boa or bredlis/carpet pythons. Well, I think this is a sign that I should go python, be it bredlis or carpet.
I guess I'm weird like that and see things like this situation and say "it wasn't meant to be". So I'm reading further into it and thinking maybe I should stay python exclusive (with my colubrid exceptions). I'm thinking more than ever I want a Bredli or a carpet, so maybe that's my next two. After that, I'll be just about maxed out, but will maybe have room to add a second of whichever my favorite species ends up being...

Just my thoughts at this point. Feel free to chime in with your thoughts if you'd like.

Thanks for reading...

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I have similar feelings and thought processes as well. I do believe that particular Boa may not have been for you. There may be another one out there that is better for you, or as you say a Carpet/Bredli may be the way to go. I’m a huge fan of both, and know that you won’t be disappointed in either.
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Sounds like this wasn't meant to be, but BOA all the way! I love Behira to death. Coolest snake ever, as long as a crazy feed response doesn't scare you and you are happy to hook train!

BOA! BOA! BOA! BOA! BOA!

Seriously, I love my BP and my Corn snake, but Behira is the most curious, bravest, most docile/personable combo, and beautiful, snake I've ever had.

If you, or your girlfriend are worried about a BCI getting too big, either get a Dwarf species, or if it were me, I would get a male BCI.

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

So I'm sure many of you saw that my Craigslist deal fell through, so no new enclosures...and no boa.

This has me thinking it fell through for a reason, maybe like a "sign from the snake gods", hahaha. But seriously, I wonder if it fell through for a reason...

As many of you know, my limitations have been updated to include slightly bigger snakes than my girlfriends previous 5 foot rule.
So I've been thinking boa or bredlis/carpet pythons. Well, I think this is a sign that I should go python, be it bredlis or carpet.
I guess I'm weird like that and see things like this situation and say "it wasn't meant to be". So I'm reading further into it and thinking maybe I should stay python exclusive (with my colubrid exceptions). I'm thinking more than ever I want a Bredli or a carpet, so maybe that's my next two. After that, I'll be just about maxed out, but will maybe have room to add a second of whichever my favorite species ends up being...

Just my thoughts at this point. Feel free to chime in with your thoughts if you'd like.

Thanks for reading...

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I'm a big believer in things happen for a reason, or the best. I can be a bit superstitious and a big fan of karma. So yes for the best. Hopefully you’ll get what you truly want, wishing you the best man.

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Originally Posted by Alter-Echo

Craigslist is a terrible place to get animals, most are poorly cared for and the owners tend to be.... not so classy, so I think you should still get a boa, just from a more reputable source.

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I don't agree that CL is a terrible place for animals. I got 7 of my 9 snakes from CL and am very happy about my transactions. I even made two new friends.

I do agree that many are poorly cared for. As far as classy, who am I to judge? I’m just an old Redneck that loves animals. I have no claims to class myself. :)

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I'm thinking of getting a baby female BCI, I've got everything I need from when my Burm was younger. What's the growth rate like from year to year?

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Valyrian,

They grow way slower than Burms. Takes them, when properly fed (meaning less is more), 4-6 years to reach adult size. More towards the latter end of that.

Behira is 2 years old this month. She was 430G or so when I got her in October, 2017, at 1 year and 3 months. Now, 9 months later, She's 920G dry. Much longer and thicker too.

However, given that she will weigh somewhere between 5,000-8,000 grams as an adult, give or take, she's got a long way to go. She puts about 25-30% of each meal towards growth.

I feed 75-90G small rats every two weeks now. When I go to mediums, when she is absolutely ready and can take no problem, she will eat every 3 weeks. Larges, every 3-4+.

Many documented issues with feeding Boas too much, especially as babies/juveniles. They tend to outgrow their organs and die young. As adults, less is still more, as they can get obese easily and will rarely refuse a meal. Obese animals tend to live 1/2 or less of a healthy adult. A healthy, slow grown BCI, should live 20-30 years.

Anyway, slow growers, but substantial snake for sure by year 3-4. I chose a juvenile over a baby because she well established, and the breeder had held her back and worked with her, so he knew her personality, etc. I got her from a rather small breeder.

Cant go wrong with either a boa or carpet but personally, i say everyone should own at least one boa. They are pretty laid back and usually happy to just sit on you. Then there is dumerils who are extra happy to sit on you....for hours lol. Luna is in heaven if i plop her down on me and throw a blanket over us. She will sit with her head poked out for hours just relaxing.

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Originally Posted by dakski

.............Coolest snake ever, as long as a crazy feed response doesn't scare you and you are happy to hook train!...................
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My Boas are so laid back that hook training has never entered my mind. Now I got them as adults, but life may be easier with using a hook with a youngster. As a hook WAS necessary with my young Olive Python.

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Valyrian,

They grow way slower than Burms. Takes them, when properly fed (meaning less is more), 4-6 years to reach adult size. More towards the latter end of that.

Behira is 2 years old this month. She was 430G or so when I got her in October, 2017, at 1 year and 3 months. Now, 9 months later, She's 920G dry. Much longer and thicker too.

However, given that she will weigh somewhere between 5,000-8,000 grams as an adult, give or take, she's got a long way to go. She puts about 25-30% of each meal towards growth.

I feed 75-90G small rats every two weeks now. When I go to mediums, when she is absolutely ready and can take no problem, she will eat every 3 weeks. Larges, every 3-4+.

Many documented issues with feeding Boas too much, especially as babies/juveniles. They tend to outgrow their organs and die young. As adults, less is still more, as they can get obese easily and will rarely refuse a meal. Obese animals tend to live 1/2 or less of a healthy adult. A healthy, slow grown BCI, should live 20-30 years.

Anyway, slow growers, but substantial snake for sure by year 3-4. I chose a juvenile over a baby because she well established, and the breeder had held her back and worked with her, so he knew her personality, etc. I got her from a rather small breeder.

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Yeah I've held a yearling Boa and I think that's a good size to start with. It was crazy strong compared to my Burm at that size too. Are Boas more active compared to Burms considering they're more arboreal? My Burm is really lazy until I get her out, kinda like a big Ball python.

I love the look of the Argentine Boas.

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My Boas are so laid back that hook training has never entered my mind. Now I got them as adults, but life may be easier with using a hook with a youngster. As a hook WAS necessary with my young Olive Python.

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Behira is totally laid back too....once out and after being rubbed a few times with the hook so she knows food isn't coming. LOL.

Seriously, it's Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde. If she even thinks food is possible - watch out! The rest of the time, total puppy dog. Once I show her the hook, and rub her a couple times, I can reach in and pick her up without a problem, every time.

No hook = could go either way.

The one incident I had, she was thinking food, and I just grabbed her as I normally used to. She nailed me quick, but let go almost immediately, was sorry and disappointed there was no rat, and let me pick her right up.

She doesn't have a mean or aggressive bone in her body. She is the calmest and most docile snake I have. The most predictable. However, and again, thinking food on any level, I need that hook to snap her out of it and get to her the Behira I know and love.

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Originally Posted by Apiratenamedjohn

sure the animal might have been mistreated, but in no way is that the animals fault. and in no way do I see that making them second anything.

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I agree. There's such a feeling of accomplishment to take in a snake that really needs a break. The only BCI I've kept was an unwanted yearling...re-homed
multiple times for biting but I don't scare easily OR give up. And how scary can a yearling BCI be anyway? geez...

But while I took her in happily, I never sought to keep a boa because most get larger than what I wanted to handle, even back then. I assumed that I'd just
calm her down & eventually find her another home. I also had a houseful of snakes already, but she had nowhere to go and I'm a big "softie". (shh!)

She was said to be a Mexican BCI, dark in color...beautiful I thought, but such a biter. Just self-defense, she was scared, & every new home made it worse.
My patience paid off- I never let her bite me & after the first 2 mos. she no longer wanted to. I actually hoped she'd stay on the small size...she loved to be
handled & would cuddle around my waist watching movies for hours & fight to stay out longer, lol. But finally after 12 years I found a really good new owner
for her, & since she was 7 1/2' long & still growing (age 13), it was the right thing for us both. (I can still visit her...:)) In all her years with me, I never got
one bite from her & she also did great meeting other people on a few occasions. A wonderful snake with an infallible appetite & iridescent like crazy in the sun.

Sometimes a pet that is rejected by others turns out to be awesome. You never know. Just like some horses are only for experienced riders...

Thanks for chiming in all. I haven't made up my mind yet, and will most likely decide boa or bredli/carpet kinda on the fly. I'm prepared for either, quarantine setup is ready (two size enclosures just in case) for a hatchling or neonate or something yearling or subadult, and my eyes and ears are open. I think I'm heading to the Manchester Expo in a few weeks, so maybe I'll find something there that just "feels" right. Maybe not...
Anyway, time will tell...

Continue to chime in, I like hearing different opinions.
Thanks all.

BOTH.

If you have capacity for two anyway, why limit yourself? Get yourself a Boa and a Carpet!

I'm on a wait list currently for my next snake and it will be a Boa. It's killing me, but I want exactly what I want, so I'm willing to wait. And I'm censoring myself from CL in the meantime to make sure I don't cave.

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Yeah I've held a yearling Boa and I think that's a good size to start with. It was crazy strong compared to my Burm at that size too. Are Boas more active compared to Burms considering they're more arboreal? My Burm is really lazy until I get her out, kinda like a big Ball python.

I love the look of the Argentine Boas.

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Depends. Some nights, my boas are just bonkers and climb all over the place. Other nights, they are are just slugs. I have never owned a burm but i will say so far, Caesar the retic is the most active of everyone. He is out and about at night 90% of the time. The boas like i said are sometimes going bonkers but usually it is more towards feeding day.

And Pat was really active when i got him but now he is kind of like a BP on a stick lol. He usually moves around to 3 different spots.....his cool spot in the back behind a plant, the front perch right out front or directly under his CHE. Then when it gets close to dinner, i sometimes catch him cruising around a little.

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BOTH.

If you have capacity for two anyway, why limit yourself? Get yourself a Boa and a Carpet!

I'm on a wait list currently for my next snake and it will be a Boa. It's killing me, but I want exactly what I want, so I'm willing to wait. And I'm censoring myself from CL in the meantime to make sure I don't cave.

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What boa are you getting?

I have been really think Macklots are pretty awesome snakes maybe something to consider?;)

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Originally Posted by Reinz

I don't agree that CL is a terrible place for animals. I got 7 of my 9 snakes from CL and am very happy about my transactions. I even made two new friends.

I do agree that many are poorly cared for. As far as classy, who am I to judge? I’m just an old Redneck that loves animals. I have no claims to class myself. :)

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Where I live, our local Craigslist is filled with meth heads and heroin addicts selling off their mite infested emaciated reptiles in their never been cleaned enclosures so they have some rent money since they spent all their unemployment money on dope.... I can't even look on Craigslist anymore, it just irks me. I'm glad you have had a much better experience.

Sorry didn’t mean to offend when I said second hand snake , We don’t have Craig’s list in the U.K. but we have something called pre-loved, sounds a similar thing and Ive had snakes from there too and also had rescue snakes boas and corns from people who have neglected and unloved them and your right it’s actually really rewarding gaining there trust and bringing back to full health
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I have been really think Macklots are pretty awesome snakes maybe something to consider?;)

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Those Macs have been knocking at my door. I have really been refraining myself from getting one. It’s a good thing I’m out of space or probably would have caved by now.

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Where I live, our local Craigslist is filled with meth heads and heroin addicts selling off their mite infested emaciated reptiles in their never been cleaned enclosures so they have some rent money since they spent all their unemployment money on dope.... I can't even look on Craigslist anymore, it just irks me. I'm glad you have had a much better experience.

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Kinda an insensitive and ignorant reply, considering I'm an alcoholic/addict in recovery.
But you probably have never been through it or watched somebody you love suffer through this disease.

Not all addicts are on unemployment (the vast majority are NOT) and not everybody who has mite infested, emaciated animals is an addict.

So, it's easy to sit there and make those comments if you've never walked in those shoes. But hey, ignorance is bliss

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BOTH.

If you have capacity for two anyway, why limit yourself? Get yourself a Boa and a Carpet!

I'm on a wait list currently for my next snake and it will be a Boa. It's killing me, but I want exactly what I want, so I'm willing to wait. And I'm censoring myself from CL in the meantime to make sure I don't cave.

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Chances are pretty good that's how it'll play out over the next year or two...


What are you on the wait list for?? The suspense is killing me!!! :)

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I have been really think Macklots are pretty awesome snakes maybe something to consider?;)

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Thanks, now I have something else to research for a while. It definitely won't be my next snake, but maybe someday. Now that the bug is in my ear I want to learn about them. I love learning new things and maybe it's a species I'd enjoy. Thanks for the tip.

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What boa are you getting?

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What are you on the wait list for?? The suspense is killing me!!! :)

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I'm on Paul Mitzelfelt's wait list for a male Dumeril's from his Ruby line. They are just ovulating so it'll still be months. Gah! But they are so gorgeous, the most beautiful Dums I've seen, that I'm just gonna have to grin and bare it and hope I don't get impatient and get something less than what I really want.

I was THIS close to getting a rehomed Dum off CL a couple of weeks ago...she was 4 years old, unusually small and only eating live (which I definitely didn't want), but her owner insisted I take this massive aquarium tank and stand that she had been in, I couldn't just have the snake. So that gave me pause and then I really started evaluating if that's what I really wanted. At the end of the day what I really wanted was a Ruby line male from Paul. So I passed and now I'm so glad I did. However, no more CL browsing for me. I gotta save myself from myself. :)

Hey, bud, I would take missing this deal as a sign. It’s a good perspective to view it from. That being said, I would only look at it as a sign that this particular snake and the set of cages were not meant to be for you at this time. I wouldn’t rule out another boa or any other snake you are interested in.

You will find the right snake at the right time for you. It’s great that you went through the thought and mental preparation on this last deal. Let’s see where it takes you now!

Btw, I am partial for you to get your hands on a Carpet but I definitely think any type of boa could be awesome. Good luck, brother.

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Kinda an insensitive and ignorant reply, considering I'm an alcoholic/addict in recovery.
But you probably have never been through it or watched somebody you love suffer through this disease.

Not all addicts are on unemployment (the vast majority are NOT) and not everybody who has mite infested, emaciated animals is an addict.

So, it's easy to sit there and make those comments if you've never walked in those shoes. But hey, ignorance is bliss

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Both my parents are hopeless alcoholics and beat me as a child, but yeah, I suppose I'm just ignorant.... :rolleyes:

But good luck with your recovery, sincerely, it's nice to see those who work hard to better themselves, and I apologize if you took it personally.

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I'm on Paul Mitzelfelt's wait list for a male Dumeril's from his Ruby line. They are just ovulating so it'll still be months. Gah! But they are so gorgeous, the most beautiful Dums I've seen, that I'm just gonna have to grin and bare it and hope I don't get impatient and get something less than what I really want

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Ahhh that's so exciting!! Dumeril's are so difficult to find (at least compared to some other snakes). I've seen photos of what Paul has produced and they are gorgeous. I was resigned to wait for Tinley in October until I happened to see that Reptile Rapture had a female. Now it'll just be tempting to add a second in October... ;)

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Both my parents are hopeless alcoholics and beat me as a child, but yeah, I suppose I'm just ignorant.... :rolleyes:

But good luck with your recovery, sincerely, it's nice to see those who work hard to better themselves, and I apologize if you took it personally.

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I didn't take it personally. I just don't think it's fair to pigeon hole like that.

I'm sorry to hear about your parents, but nobody is hopeless.

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Hey, bud, I would take missing this deal as a sign. It’s a good perspective to view it from. That being said, I would only look at it as a sign that this particular snake and the set of cages were not meant to be for you at this time. I wouldn’t rule out another boa or any other snake you are interested in.

You will find the right snake at the right time for you. It’s great that you went through the thought and mental preparation on this last deal. Let’s see where it takes you now!

Btw, I am partial for you to get your hands on a Carpet but I definitely think any type of boa could be awesome. Good luck, brother.

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Yeah, I haven't ruled out a boa by any means. But, I do believe things happen (or don't) for a reason. I think this simply tipped the scales a bit in the carpet favor.

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Yeah, I haven't ruled out a boa by any means. But, I do believe things happen (or don't) for a reason. I think this simply tipped the scales a bit in the carpet favor.

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I mean, a Carpet is bada$$. No one is going to be able to say otherwise. 😊

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I'm on Paul Mitzelfelt's wait list for a male Dumeril's from his Ruby line. They are just ovulating so it'll still be months. Gah! But they are so gorgeous, the most beautiful Dums I've seen, that I'm just gonna have to grin and bare it and hope I don't get impatient and get something less than what I really want.

I was THIS close to getting a rehomed Dum off CL a couple of weeks ago...she was 4 years old, unusually small and only eating live (which I definitely didn't want), but her owner insisted I take this massive aquarium tank and stand that she had been in, I couldn't just have the snake. So that gave me pause and then I really started evaluating if that's what I really wanted. At the end of the day what I really wanted was a Ruby line male from Paul. So I passed and now I'm so glad I did. However, no more CL browsing for me. I gotta save myself from myself. :)

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Haha, i think you replied to my post Hilabeans on the dumerils FB page about the ruby line. You perked my curiosity so i had to go look and couldnt find ANYTHING about them on the internet. Only found stuff about T+ ones being worked on in Europe and so called hypo ones being worked on here in the states. So i asked on the dumerils FB page. So it looks like they arent actually a morph. They are just selectively bred for a more reddish color. Interesting.

And to Craig, go big brutha!! It's time for a SD/D retic morph!!!!

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Haha, i think you replied to my post Hilabeans on the dumerils FB page about the ruby line. You perked my curiosity so i had to go look and couldnt find ANYTHING about them on the internet. Only found stuff about T+ ones being worked on in Europe and so called hypo ones being worked on here in the states. So i asked on the dumerils FB page. So it looks like they arent actually a morph. They are just selectively bred for a more reddish color. Interesting.

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OMG - is that you?! LOL, small world. Yep, no morphs just bred for more of a sunset color. :)

I haven't seen any Dumeril's morphs, but I have seen some terrible looking normal Dums and stunningly beautiful ones.

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OMG - is that you?! LOL, small world. Yep, no morphs just bred for more of a sunset color. :)

I haven't seen any Dumeril's morphs, but I have seen some terrible looking normal Dums and stunningly beautiful ones.

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Yeah, i have seen some pretty piss poor looking ones and some nice ones. I personally like little Luna. She has a nice pink shade to her. Her only issue is she is TERRIFIED of rats and coils up, machine guns the rat and runs away as fast as possible...and the rat is FT lol. Picked her up for $200 as a little tiny baby lol.
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Yeah, i have seen some pretty piss poor looking ones and some nice ones. I personally like little Luna. She has a nice pink shade to her. Her only issue is she is TERRIFIED of rats and coils up, machine guns the rat and runs away as fast as possible...and the rat is FT lol. Picked her up for $200 as a little tiny baby lol.
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She is very pretty. Quirky too with the rat fear! At the end of the day, they all have their distinctive personalities. Are you looking to get another?

Sorry to hijack your thread Craig! Me & Sauzo's worlds collided on the Dum FB board - ha!

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She is very pretty. Quirky too with the rat fear! At the end of the day, they all have their distinctive personalities. Are you looking to get another?

Sorry to hijack your thread Craig! Me & Sauzo's worlds collided on the Dum FB board - ha!

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Thanks. And yeah, it's funny she is scared of rats. I did trick her into eating one...or she tricked me into giving her more food. I rubbed 2 adult mice and a weaned rat together. She usually eats 2 adult mice every 2 weeks. but anyways, after rubbing all that together, i laid the raid down on a piece of cardboard with a mouse in either side. Luna's food drive slowly overwhelmed her fear and she cautiously snuck up on the food. She ate both mice and then slowly inspected the rat and finally ate it too lol. But next feeding day, she freaked out on the rat and ran away again haha. I gave up and just give her the 2 mice now. I'll worry about when she is bigger. Maybe her larger size will make her not so scared of rats if i start out on smaller ones.

As for another, not really. I'm looking at either another SD retic morph, a BHP, an ETB or another GTP. But before any of that, i AM getting a dang small chest freezer hahaha. And then i am going to post pics of it and frame them!! It will be like a momentous feat as i wanted to get one back when i had 4 snakes......i got 9 now and still no chest freezer lol.

Oh also considering a Woma as a cheaper and smaller alternative to a BHP :)

Do a bredli, im getting a 1.1 pair of het stonewash (IIRC) for free with enclosures from my friend who made us a deal and wants merely a visual 1.1 pair when we get them (theyll be ready to breed next year)

We can share pictures regularly [emoji23][emoji23]

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And to Craig, go big brutha!! It's time for a SD/D retic morph!!!!

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Part of me wants to, they are stunning, impressive animals. But, I know my limitations and even a D/SD would likely exceed them.
If there weren't so many other species I am interested in I'd be more inclined, but a retic is just mot for me.

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Sorry to hijack your thread Craig! Me & Sauzo's worlds collided on the Dum FB board - ha!

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No worries at all. I enjoy reading your thoughts, experiences, etc...
I'm happy to learn new things, plus a Dum is on my "maybe" list...

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Part of me wants to, they are stunning, impressive animals. But, I know my limitations and even a D/SD would likely exceed them.
If there weren't so many other species I am interested in I'd be more inclined, but a retic is just mot for me.

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If it is a size matter, honestly, i too was worried at first which is what kept me from getting a retic a long time ago but if you get a SD/D from a reliable breeder and try to stick to a higher percentage SD blood with most or all the SD coming from mom, you should end up with a manageable snake for a single person.

Caesar is about 8 feet and easily manageable by me alone. He is kind of a lush though with his personality and if i get rather forceful with him, he will lay down and pout for lack of a better word. Not sure if other retics are like that but for Caesar it makes it easy to keep him in line. Now if i let him have his way, he goes all over from the top of the cage to the floor and all over lol.

Rosey my 7 foot boa is actually more of a handful than Caesar as far as weight and girth. Caesar is just longer and much more active. Honestly, i think you would like a retic. They are packed with personality. Like I've said before, Caesar and Harley my beardie are both there to greet me during the day. the boas looks at me but dont actually cruise over to me when i open a cage door and sit there looking at me and seeming to enjoy the interaction.

Oh just know also, owning a retic is not cheap lol. At least in my case. I go through full cage cleanings once a month and Caesar's food is a small fortune but he seems to be able to go about 2 weeks now and when i finally get chest freezer, food costs should drop. But retics piss and poop like a machine so i am always spot cleaning and like i said, i throw out the whole substrate once a month as it soaks up liquids.

Boa Constrictor and Bredli both start with the letter B.


The word BOTH also starts with the letter B


It's a sign!

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Originally Posted by Gio

Boa Constrictor and Bredli both start with the letter B.


The word BOTH also starts with the letter B


It's a sign!

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Well played!!! So does Brisbane...so does Buy them all!!! Hahhahaha. I feel like my next two will almost definitely be a carpet/bredli and a boa. It's just in which order?????
I have a feeling if I go carpet or Bredli this time, I'll go boa next and maybe finish the collection with whichever is left between carpet and Bredli

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

Well played!!! So does Brisbane...so does Buy them all!!! Hahhahaha. I feel like my next two will almost definitely be a carpet/bredli and a boa. It's just in which order?????
I have a feeling if I go carpet or Bredli this time, I'll go boa next and maybe finish the collection with whichever is left between carpet and Bredli

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Yes,

You will eventually want a boa constrictor if you don't choose to get one now.

Its nice to have a "New World" species in the collection. All around, they are excellent. They are big, but not too big. The are active but not annoyingly so or to the point of being unmanageable.

They are semi arboreal if you set them up for climbing.

And in all honesty, my SD X Dwarf X Mainland retic is 2 years old now and likely not 8 feet. The age of 2 is when the growth slows a lot.

I don't spend muck on food either. The breeder told me large rats fill suit him for the rest of his life. I mix rats and quail. I won't rule out very, very small rabbits, but that is only for variety.

I feed every 3-4 weeks and don't have issues with pushing, and really don't have to clean up after him much more than the others, though I do tend to find more waste with the retic.

Back to boas,,,,, I think if you were even half way excited about the first deal, you will be twice as excited about a nice locality boa constrictor that you researched and picked out on you own.

At this stage I'd say get the boa.

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

Well played!!! So does Brisbane...so does Buy them all!!! Hahhahaha. I feel like my next two will almost definitely be a carpet/bredli and a boa. It's just in which order?????
I have a feeling if I go carpet or Bredli this time, I'll go boa next and maybe finish the collection with whichever is left between carpet and Bredli

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Brisbane, Bredli, Boa... Mind blown!!! Mix in Ball Python and you have the perfect starter set!

For me, I might pick up a male boa and a female Brisbane. Don’t know why, just seems to make sense for me. Unless we have another baby. Whole other topic. Then I only get a new dog. Too many apex predators under one roof with a newborn.

So, Craig, if you don’t have the problems I do, strike while the iron is hot! 😊