BCI or BCC or mix?

I'm curious if this snake being sold is a BCI or maybe a BCI/BCC mix? It's being sold as suriname.

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Looks like a bcc Suriname to me , the deep bat saddles and gorgeous red tail
Be very surprised if it was a bci


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Scale counts are the best way to tell but it's not an exact science:

BCC
scale counts - 75 to 95 dorsal rows
227 to 250 ventrals
49 to 62 subcaudals


BCI
scale counts - 56 to 79 dorsal rows
225 to 253 ventrals
47 to 65 subcaudals

I would hazard to say that's a BCC based on the peaks of the saddles and the redness of the tail, but I'm no expert

Thanks for your thoughts! I ask because the redness of the tail doesn't seem as vibrant as some other BCC Ive seen, and the peaks in the saddles are not as prominent in certain areas. I'm no expert either though, it could be a "low quality" BCC... LOL

There are so many variants in bcc as with all snakes ,
you get what you pay for I’m afraid, like buying a pedigree dog with all it’s papers. These show that lineage etc
the higher contrast ones and the most vibrant ones are big bucks im afraid
Still not too bad a colour tho


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Looks BCC to me. I personally like a little peak to the saddles but not something like a Mega Peaks Suriname. Not really a fan of those. The tail looks red to me. I like them with a nice blood red tail like this....
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I miss the old days, my bcc was a guyana import.... 150 bucks... :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Alter-Echo

I miss the old days, my bcc was a guyana import.... 150 bucks... :rofl:

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Lol that's cheap. Gina is a pure Rio Bravo Pokigron Suriname...and she wasnt cheap.....lol.

I love the blood red and bright whites in their tail. I like big peaks too, though I'm also not really a fan of mega peaks.

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Originally Posted by richardhind1972

There are so many variants in bcc as with all snakes ,

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Originally Posted by richardhind1972

you get what you pay for I’m afraid, like buying a pedigree dog with all it’s papers. These show that lineage etc
the higher contrast ones and the most vibrant ones are big bucks im afraid
Still not too bad a colour tho


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This isn't my snake, just one I saw on craigslist and was curious about the type. I'm a little more picky if I were to get a BC!

I hear ya. I was picky about BCC too. Then i saw Gina along with another female and male that Chris Wolf was selling. Luckily, i got Gina. He sold the male and 2 females in about an hour of posting them up lol.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

Lol that's cheap. Gina is a pure Rio Bravo Pokigron Suriname...and she wasnt cheap.....lol.

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Yeah, keep in mind that this was over 15 years ago though... seems that bcc are getting less common and more expensive as time goes by. Back when I started keeping snakes, there were lots of things you could get with ease that are rare now, and visa versa.

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Yeah, keep in mind that this was over 15 years ago though... seems that bcc are getting less common and more expensive as time goes by. Back when I started keeping snakes, there were lots of things you could get with ease that are rare now, and visa versa.

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True except in the case of stuff like pied BPs and some other stuff. Pieds used to be like $10000, now they are like $1000. Had a copy of Vin Russo's old price guide but cant find the pic now. It is hilarious to see how much the prices have actually come down on a lot of stuff.

Yeah... I remember the prices of the first albinos.... lolol

But then again, I also remember stuff like etbs being less than 300 bucks... I wish I had jumped on the northern shield ebts when I had the chance... now they are untouchable.

Looks very similar to my supposed Guyana. Mine is getting ready for shed. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...104ff50fce.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...06310056d7.jpgVery nice snake


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