Really?? At Petco???

So I was killing some time in town while waiting for my girlfriend to get off work and stopped into Petco. I wasn't able to get a decent picture of the snake, but it looked surprisingly good for being at Petco. Anyway, I was surprised to find this there...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c13342d16f.jpg

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So I was killing some time in town while waiting for my girlfriend to get off work and stopped into Petco. I wasn't able to get a decent picture of the snake, but it looked surprisingly good for being at Petco. Anyway, I was surprised to find this there...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c13342d16f.jpg

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poor thing is probably never gonna sell


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poor thing is probably never gonna sell


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That was my original thought too. I kinda figured anybody willing to drop 8 hundo on an animal knows better than to buy from the big box stores. But, somebody with money and limited knowledge will probably bring it home, along with the BP starter kit and a head full of Petco advice.

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That was my original thought too. I kinda figured anybody willing to drop 8 hundo on an animal knows better than to buy from the big box stores. But, somebody with money and limited knowledge will probably bring it home, along with the BP starter kit and a head full of Petco advice.

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true, i remember at one point my petco had a BEL and it was absolutely beautiful. was there for about 3-4 months at least and who knows if it actually sold or they got rid of it. they even put it on sale for $300 for black friday


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Was it really a Puma? Just wondering since the pic is a banana lol

It'll sell when they drop the price due to it not selling... or a sale comes along. Fingers crossed it goes to someone with a halfway decent knowledge of snake care.

I wonder... if they're selling it for $800, how much did they purchase it for? There's a lot of background here that I'd be curious about. Like, what makes a breeder sell a puma to Petco instead of posting online? What were the circumstances?

It's not a great indicator really. Just means the market is becoming more and more saturated.

I'm seeing Pumas for about $300-400....$800...no thanks.

Heck i picked up Dottie my high white pied girl for $200 on a black friday deal. I was there before they even opened and beat out 2 other people by about 10 mins haha.

My petco has a really nice northern blue tongue skink for 500 bucks...was tempted... really tempted.

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Originally Posted by Alter-Echo

My petco has a really nice northern blue tongue skink for 500 bucks...was tempted... really tempted.

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That would tempt me also. LOL. They are so cool.

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I'm seeing Pumas for about $300-400....$800...no thanks.

Heck i picked up Dottie my high white pied girl for $200 on a black friday deal. I was there before they even opened and beat out 2 other people by about 10 mins haha.

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Its always like that there, just another reason not to get your animals from them. They sell Normals for $100+, i got paarthurnax for $20.

Though, one time i was there, they had the most gorgeous banana bp. Caught me way off guard. Thing was decent size and on sale, probably because it wasnt selling. Such a shame.

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Originally Posted by Slicercrush

Its always like that there, just another reason not to get your animals from them. They sell Normals for $100+, i got paarthurnax for $20.

Though, one time i was there, they had the most gorgeous banana bp. Caught me way off guard. Thing was decent size and on sale, probably because it wasnt selling. Such a shame.

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i see normals there for typically $40-$70 then theyll sometimes have morphs that they have no clue what they are for $120


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i see normals there for typically $40-$70 then theyll sometimes have morphs that they have no clue what they are for $120


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The guy i saw was on sale for $60 (the normal, not the banana). The only morph ive seen there other than the banana was a yellowbelly. I honestly wonder where they get these morphs from.

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The guy i saw was on sale for $60 (the normal, not the banana). The only morph ive seen there other than the banana was a yellowbelly. I honestly wonder where they get these morphs from.

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ive seen bananas, pied (which they had no clue what they were cause it was $120 when typically most pet stores have them for $300ish) and clowns


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That is kind of abnormal...at least for my Petco.

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ive seen bananas, pied (which they had no clue what they were cause it was $120 when typically most pet stores have them for $300ish) and clowns


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I wouldve bought that pied in a heartbeat at that price.

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I wouldve bought that pied in a heartbeat at that price.

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i wouldve too if i was allowed [emoji28][emoji28] at that time i wasnt allowed any snakes haha


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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

So I was killing some time in town while waiting for my girlfriend to get off work and stopped into Petco. I wasn't able to get a decent picture of the snake, but it looked surprisingly good for being at Petco. Anyway, I was surprised to find this there...https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...c13342d16f.jpg

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Our PETSMART right now has 3.

On one the sign says "Ball Python" and it's pretty small for $59.99.
The other one says "Fancy Ball Python" and again very small baby for $99.99.
Then another one that is pretty big (i'm bad at size) but looks to be at least 2 1/2 to 3 feet long that says "Ball Python" for $59.99.

That's where my son got his Mia. She was "supposedly" a fancy ball and at that time he had no clue what a "FANCY" was but he liked her color so he paid $99.99 for her and for all the issues we had with her when we first got her it was definitely a lesson learned on where to and where not to buy an animal from.

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Originally Posted by Maybeka

Our PETSMART right now has 3.

On one the sign says "Ball Python" and it's pretty small for $59.99.
The other one says "Fancy Ball Python" and again very small baby for $99.99.
Then another one that is pretty big (i'm bad at size) but looks to be at least 2 1/2 to 3 feet long that says "Ball Python" for $59.99.

That's where my son got his Mia. She was "supposedly" a fancy ball and at that time he had no clue what a "FANCY" was but he liked her color so he paid $99.99 for her and for all the issues we had with her when we first got her it was definitely a lesson learned on where to and where not to buy an animal from.

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“fancy” is their generalized term for morphs that they have no clue about, i couldnt remember the term in my post so thank you for bringing that up


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Originally Posted by baldegale

“fancy” is their generalized term for morphs that they have no clue about, i couldnt remember the term in my post so thank you for bringing that up


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Ironic how with almost every type of animal they sell (even parakeets) theres a "fancy" version, huh?


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Fancy means morph. Around here I see mostly pastels and common morphs labeled fancy. The rarer morphs are usually labeled and higher priced, they had a “banana” ball python recently for $299.99. much better to just buy from an online breeder imo.

I’ve seen everything from bels to spinnerblasts, even a pied at the petco’s and petsmart’s by my house (I live in the Chicago area). I truly understand how people could get excited, but me personally. I could never buy from them, not knowing what I know. Let alone with the interweb at my fingers. But yeah, the list I’ve seen is long. To bad the big chains squeezed so many specialty shops out of business. But it still blows my mind to see all the crazy morphs they get.

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I’ve seen everything from bels to spinnerblasts, even a pied at the petco’s and petsmart’s by my house (I live in the Chicago area). I truly understand how people could get excited, but me personally. I could never buy from them, not knowing what I know. Let alone with the interweb at my fingers. But yeah, the list I’ve seen is long. To bad the big chains squeezed so many specialty shops out of business. But it still blows my mind to see all the crazy morphs they get.

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even some of the specialty shops i wouldnt buy from most ive seen have been extremely overpriced (except online)


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I’ve seen everything from bels to spinnerblasts, even a pied at the petco’s and petsmart’s by my house (I live in the Chicago area). I truly understand how people could get excited, but me personally. I could never buy from them, not knowing what I know. Let alone with the interweb at my fingers. But yeah, the list I’ve seen is long. To bad the big chains squeezed so many specialty shops out of business. But it still blows my mind to see all the crazy morphs they get.

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Honestly around here, sadly even the only specialty shops around are kind of overpriced. Online is the best for me, though if i can buy from a local breeder/sellee, I do.

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Honestly around here, sadly even the only specialty shops around are kind of overpriced. Online is the best for me, though if i can buy from a local breeder/sellee, I do.

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where i live now (just moved) i luckily have a monthly show right down the street from me that has a bunch of morphs, hognoses, skinks, tegus, axolotls. it’s wonderful with great prices


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As far as I know each shop or shops in the area can and will contract with breeders and wholesalers. At least that’s how it was for aquatic life when I was heavy in the fish game.

One shop had deaths door fish and then one a mile away had great stuff. M


It delends on tne managers and employees. I’d never buy one but people do.

Some employeds care some
could care less. It’s like that anywhere.

I know why these places get a bad wrap but at times do feel bad for the folks there who care and try and earn a living.

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As far as I know each shop or shops in the area can and will contract with breeders and wholesalers. At least that’s how it was for aquatic life when I was heavy in the fish game.

One shop had deaths door fish and then one a mile away had great stuff. M


It delends on tne managers and employees. I’d never buy one but people do.

Some employeds care some
could care less. It’s like that anywhere.

I know why these places get a bad wrap but at times do feel bad for the folks there who care and try and earn a living.

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Very true, i have checked at pwtco now and again for fish, and theyve had ome keepers who reallt knpw what theyre doing. On the other hand, som will scoop the worst looking fish and say its alright

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My petco has a really nice northern blue tongue skink for 500 bucks...was tempted... really tempted.

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The Petco near me, that has the puma, has had a BTS for about 4 months now. Was $299, now $199.

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Was it really a Puma? Just wondering since the pic is a banana lol

It'll sell when they drop the price due to it not selling... or a sale comes along. Fingers crossed it goes to someone with a halfway decent knowledge of snake care.

I wonder... if they're selling it for $800, how much did they purchase it for? There's a lot of background here that I'd be curious about. Like, what makes a breeder sell a puma to Petco instead of posting online? What were the circumstances?

It's not a great indicator really. Just means the market is becoming more and more saturated.

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I definitely don't know about morphs enough to say for sure. I went on morphmarket and WOBP and looked around. The one in the store looked very similar to some of what I saw online, but they varied fairly drastically. This one was mostly cream colored, long dorsal stripe, next to no patterning, if any. Obviously it's anybody's guess, especially without a pic.

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Originally Posted by Slicercrush

Ironic how with almost every type of animal they sell (even parakeets) theres a "fancy" version, huh?


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They need to come out with a 'feeder' version for cheap lol.

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They need to come out with a 'feeder' version for cheap lol.

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"Excuse me id like to buy that feeder puma python over there for $200"

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"Excuse me id like to buy that feeder puma python over there for $200"

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More like, walk into Petsmart and say, "Yes, can i get a dozen feeder parakeets please"

On another one of my threads, i mentioned how i walked into the pet shop by me where i usually buy all my rodents and asked the manager who was helping customers if she has gotten her order of feeder kittens in yet as i need about 3. One of the customers just gave me this blank stare lol. The manager laughed and had to let the customers know i was just kidding. I guess another of her customers did that but asked if they got their shipment of feeder parakeets in when there was a lot of customers in there. The customers all asked if this pet shop really sells parakeets as feeders. It's so fun getting people all worked up lol.

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More like, walk into Petsmart and say, "Yes, can i get a dozen feeder parakeets please"

On another one of my threads, i mentioned how i walked into the pet shop by me where i usually buy all my rodents and asked the manager who was helping customers if she has gotten her order of feeder kittens in yet as i need about 3. One of the customers just gave me this blank stare lol. The manager laughed and had to let the customers know i was just kidding. I guess another of her customers did that but asked if they got their shipment of feeder parakeets in when there was a lot of customers in there. The customers all asked if this pet shop really sells parakeets as feeders. It's so fun getting people all worked up lol.

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Theyre just like chicks, but more colorful!

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Its always like that there, just another reason not to get your animals from them. They sell Normals for $100+, i got paarthurnax for $20.

Though, one time i was there, they had the most gorgeous banana bp. Caught me way off guard. Thing was decent size and on sale, probably because it wasnt selling. Such a shame.

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Normals are $69.99. Never been $100

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The guy i saw was on sale for $60 (the normal, not the banana). The only morph ive seen there other than the banana was a yellowbelly. I honestly wonder where they get these morphs from.

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The gourmet rodent (which I hate)

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Originally Posted by baldegale

ive seen bananas, pied (which they had no clue what they were cause it was $120 when typically most pet stores have them for $300ish) and clowns


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we don't sell by individual morph. They are three groups. Normals, advanced and unusual. Three price points. No more no less.

Seriously if you have Petco questions just ask. I will answer.

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we don't sell by individual morph. They are three groups. Normals, advanced and unusual. Three price points. No more no less.

Seriously if you have Petco questions just ask. I will answer.

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this was a mixture of petco and petsmart!


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Originally Posted by Phillydubs

As far as I know each shop or shops in the area can and will contract with breeders and wholesalers. At least that’s how it was for aquatic life when I was heavy in the fish game.

One shop had deaths door fish and then one a mile away had great stuff. M


It delends on tne managers and employees. I’d never buy one but people do.

Some employeds care some
could care less. It’s like that anywhere.

I know why these places get a bad wrap but at times do feel bad for the folks there who care and try and earn a living.

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Thank you!

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Theyre just like chicks, but more colorful!

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Wait until you see the response from people when you mention your snake could eat a dozen of those little chicks like nuggets......some people get really worked up lol.

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Normals are $69.99. Never been $100

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Could've been mistaken, honestly haven't checked there in a while.

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The gourmet rodent (which I hate)

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May I ask why you hate them? (As I start to google them myself)

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Could've been mistaken, honestly haven't checked there in a while.



May I ask why you hate them? (As I start to google them myself)

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they are like a puppy mill but with snakes. They are mass produced, come to us small, and sometimes messed up. My Odyn was one of them. I wish Petco would reach out to reputable breeders and only order as necessary. I'm happy BPs are not available right now to even get. Grrrrr, just grrrr to them.

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they are like a puppy mill but with snakes. They are mass produced, come to us small, and sometimes messed up. My Odyn was one of them. I wish Petco would reach out to reputable breeders and only order as necessary. I'm happy BPs are not available right now to even get. Grrrrr, just grrrr to them.

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Even the site itself seemed pretty sketch. Think ill pass on ever looking them up again.

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Theyre just like chicks, but more colorful!

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Kinda like skittles, different flavors... my mangrove used to pick out all the lemon flavored ones. :rofl:

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Kinda like skittles, different flavors... my mangrove used to pick out all the lemon flavored ones. :rofl:

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[emoji23][emoji23] if we keep coming up with ideas for this people are gonna start taking us seriously

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they are like a puppy mill but with snakes. They are mass produced, come to us small, and sometimes messed up. My Odyn was one of them. I wish Petco would reach out to reputable breeders and only order as necessary. I'm happy BPs are not available right now to even get. Grrrrr, just grrrr to them.

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The reason is because the company would not make cash which is really all corporate cares about. Breeders are not going to wholesale their nice stuff. Now as for normals, they might wholesale those assuming they get many if any and also depending what they are het for.

Heck i was on the local reptile FB page and someone posted a poor little GTP at a local Petco, i think in federal Way or Auburn...somewhere down south. They didnt even give the poor guy a stick to sit on. He was curled up on the floor inside a half log hide. Not sure if someone went to rescue it. I felt bad for him and if i had the caging and the cash, i probably would have gone to rescue him. I know its not a good idea as it just reinforces that said animals will sell and they will just order another which will be kept in the same condition but i felt so sorry for that little baby snake. Was like Dottie my pied BP, when i got her, she was in the back room in a little tiny cube that was half filled with cold spilled water in a mess of slop. They had to assist feed her as they said she didnt eat and was very bitey......2 days after i got her home, she ate like a horse every 3 days and has only bit me once in almost 5 years and that was because my finger smelled like a rat as i was messing with them and forgot to wash my hand lol.

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Heck i was on the local reptile FB page and someone posted a poor little GTP at a local Petco, i think in federal Way or Auburn...somewhere down south. They didnt even give the poor guy a stick to sit on. He was curled up on the floor inside a half log hide. Not sure if someone went to rescue it. I felt bad for him and if i had the caging and the cash, i probably would have gone to rescue him. I know its not a good idea as it just reinforces that said animals will sell and they will just order another which will be kept in the same condition but i felt so sorry for that little baby snake.

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The Petco near me (the one in this thread) had a GTP about a year ago, maybe longer, I stink at time, hahaha. Anyway, same thing, no perch, nothing. Just a water dish and half log hide. I googled GTPs and showed the employee that in EVERY picture the GTP is perched in that famous GTP "pose". Then showed care sheets, etc... which discussed that they are an arboreal species. The employee said they can only put what corporate allows in the tank. I was furious!
...went back a few weeks later, no GTP. I asked if it sold...nope it died. I called corporate but gave up after hours of being run in circles.

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The reason is because the company would not make cash which is really all corporate cares about. Breeders are not going to wholesale their nice stuff. Now as for normals, they might wholesale those assuming they get many if any and also depending what they are het for.

Heck i was on the local reptile FB page and someone posted a poor little GTP at a local Petco, i think in federal Way or Auburn...somewhere down south. They didnt even give the poor guy a stick to sit on. He was curled up on the floor inside a half log hide. Not sure if someone went to rescue it. I felt bad for him and if i had the caging and the cash, i probably would have gone to rescue him. I know its not a good idea as it just reinforces that said animals will sell and they will just order another which will be kept in the same condition but i felt so sorry for that little baby snake. Was like Dottie my pied BP, when i got her, she was in the back room in a little tiny cube that was half filled with cold spilled water in a mess of slop. They had to assist feed her as they said she didnt eat and was very bitey......2 days after i got her home, she ate like a horse every 3 days and has only bit me once in almost 5 years and that was because my finger smelled like a rat as i was messing with them and forgot to wash my hand lol.

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I remember that post and I also called Corp and sent emails stating that is not how we set up gtps. They have since updated the set ups. Poor little baby. Why they ordered a gtp is beyond me!

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I remember that post and I also called Corp and sent emails stating that is not how we set up gtps. They have since updated the set ups. Poor little baby. Why they ordered a gtp is beyond me!

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I gotta say, the new-ish girl at my local store is actually pretty knowledgeable. I had a good 10 minute chat with her the other day and she knew her stuff pretty well. She gets frustrated that she's limited by management as far as what she can do to help troubleshoot and improve conditions, but clearly cares and it shows with her interaction with customers.

Anyway, @sunnieskys, it's good to see more good employees like you working there and being an asset to the company, the customers and most importantly, the animals.
I just wish employees like you you were more the rule than the exception.

As alway, thanks for being one of the good ones!!!

when is the next Reptile Rapture event or whatever it's called? i'll try to come hangout and skool your staff and customers.

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Heck i was on the local reptile FB page and someone posted a poor little GTP at a local Petco, i think in federal Way or Auburn...somewhere down south. They didnt even give the poor guy a stick to sit on. He was curled up on the floor inside a half log hide. Not sure if someone went to rescue it. I felt bad for him and if i had the caging and the cash, i probably would have gone to rescue him. I know its not a good idea as it just reinforces that said animals will sell and they will just order another which will be kept in the same condition but i felt so sorry for that little baby snake.

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The Petco near me (the one in this thread) had a GTP about a year ago, maybe longer, I stink at time, hahaha. Anyway, same thing, no perch, nothing. Just a water dish and half log hide. I googled GTPs and showed the employee that in EVERY picture the GTP is perched in that famous GTP "pose". Then showed care sheets, etc... which discussed that they are an arboreal species. The employee said they can only put what corporate allows in the tank. I was furious!
...went back a few weeks later, no GTP. I asked if it sold...nope it died. I called corporate but gave up after hours of being run in circles.

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I remember that post and I also called Corp and sent emails stating that is not how we set up gtps. They have since updated the set ups. Poor little baby. Why they ordered a gtp is beyond me!

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this pix is from Sept 2015. i was driving Miss Daisy (my boss lady) and had time to kill while she was in a meeting, so i stopped by the Petco next to the Tacoma Mall. they had a Shiny GTP! i don’t remember the price, there was a low branch decor, it seemed in fair condition but it was on the ground. it looked super humid and there a few pieces of shed as u can see.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/PbY89pk.jpg

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I gotta say, the new-ish girl at my local store is actually pretty knowledgeable. I had a good 10 minute chat with her the other day and she knew her stuff pretty well. She gets frustrated that she's limited by management as far as what she can do to help troubleshoot and improve conditions, but clearly cares and it shows with her interaction with customers.

Anyway, @sunnieskys, it's good to see more good employees like you working there and being an asset to the company, the customers and most importantly, the animals.
I just wish employees like you you were more the rule than the exception.

As alway, thanks for being one of the good ones!!!

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I havent stepped foot in a Petsmart or Petco in i dont know how. I usually end up getting pissed off at either how stupid the employees are or the excuses they give for not keeping their reptiles set up correctly (in the case of someone knowledgeable, corporates fault).

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when is the next Reptile Rapture event or whatever it's called? i'll try to come hangout and skool your staff and customers.




this pix is from Sept 2015. i was driving Miss Daisy (my boss lady) and had time to kill while she was in a meeting, so i stopped by the Petco next to the Tacoma Mall. they had a Shiny GTP! i don’t remember the price, there was a low branch decor, it seemed in fair condition but it was on the ground. it looked super humid and there a few pieces of shed as u can see.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/PbY89pk.jpg

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That is still a pretty piss poor setup. I mean how hard is it to make a little perch with a dremel, a couple stick on cable clamps and a piece of oak dowel. Or even an over sized PVC one is better than nothing along with a little plastic plant to give it security. That GTP is grounded so it's either too hot (which i doubt), pregnant (which i doubt), or is stressed (which i think). GTPs seem to stress pretty easy and i wouldnt be surprised if that snake didnt eat and dies within a month. I mean heck, i was worried about getting Pat as i heard horror stories about keeping GTPs but after having Pat for almost 5 months and seeing him go from a little 12 inch about as thick as a Bic pen baby to now about 2 feet long and a little over a 1/2 inch thick, I found GTPs really arent that hard to care for if you just give them essentials which really isnt too much. Knock on wood of course.

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when is the next Reptile Rapture event or whatever it's called? i'll try to come hangout and skool your staff and customers.




this pix is from Sept 2015. i was driving Miss Daisy (my boss lady) and had time to kill while she was in a meeting, so i stopped by the Petco next to the Tacoma Mall. they had a Shiny GTP! i don’t remember the price, there was a low branch decor, it seemed in fair condition but it was on the ground. it looked super humid and there a few pieces of shed as u can see.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/PbY89pk.jpg

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No idea as I don't do them. They are a joke and do not bring people in. A waste of marketing. I'm constantly on education with my staff on animals. Don't sell an animal if you don't know what they need.

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