Redtail ID?? craigslist find: enclosure & boa

Hey boa friends, was searching craigalist for enclosures and came across this enclosure. The catch? It comes with a 2 year old female redtail. No further info available. Since a boa has been on my radar for a while, I'm considering it.

The person I've been in contact with only has this pic avail til his kid gets home. I know it's not a great pic, but any chance it can be ID'd??

I'll share the other pics once I get them, but figured I'd see if this pic helps ID the snake for now.

Here's the enclosure and snake...


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Looks like a bci to me, but hard to tell if it's a morph or not considering the pic and horrific lighting.

Common BI. Put the boa in QT, disinfect the heck out of that enclosure before use.

Oh and nice pick up!

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Common BI. Put the boa in QT, disinfect the heck out of that enclosure before use.

Oh and nice pick up!

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Thanks.

Haven't pulled the trigger yet, still waiting on more details.
If I do, my quarantine tank is ready and waiting. And I'll be transporting the enclosure in pieces, which will make cleaning easier.

Looks like a couple of nice finds as long as you’re happy with the price.

Are those tanks all stacked? Individual pieces.

I agree with the other ID of the boa

Nice common boa, no morph.
The cages are a proline rack (made by Ed at NorthWest Constrictors), I have two myself. Looks like maybe the 3x2 size?

Alright Craig!!!! Do it, man... get that beauty.

Wow, new snake and an enclosure stack. That's a tough deal to pass up if the price is right. ;)

God bless bother, if it makes you happy I hope it works out for you.

Lol April beat me to it. Yup, those are Prolines. I personally am not a fan of them. Wish i was as Ed lives a couple hours drive from me. The one i had had all sorts of warped, sagging and leaking issues but that is another story lol.

As for the boa, looks like a common BCI like others have said. Nice looking snake though. I like the contrast of color difference from the top and sides.

I've tried a couple Prolines in the past too, also not a fan, sorry. (FYI, I greatly prefer glass tanks, I have mostly colubrids anyway.)
But at least the snake is cool!

Thanks for all the info, everybody.

They're asking $500 OBO. I'm probably going to let this one pass unless they're willing to drop the price considerably.
Never heard back with more pics last night. And it's way out in Western MA, so a good drive from here.

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Are those tanks all stacked? Individual pieces.

I agree with the other ID of the boa

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It's in pieces now, but is a one piece stack when built.

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

Nice common boa, no morph.
The cages are a proline rack (made by Ed at NorthWest Constrictors), I have two myself. Looks like maybe the 3x2 size?

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Yes, they are the 3x2s.
Are you happy with yours? The general consensus so far isn't too good.

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I've tried a couple Prolines in the past too, also not a fan, sorry. (FYI, I greatly prefer glass tanks, I have mostly colubrids anyway.)
But at least the snake is cool!

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Did you have any warping, sagging or leaking issues with yours??

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It's in pieces now, but is a one piece stack when built.

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I thought they looked familiar. I have 2 lol. No wonder why.

I have 4x2 one is 2 feet high the other is like 15-16”

the guy I got them from
barely used them and added extra seal to them and the bigger one he added bigger vents too

they both came with RHP and at the price he offered tnem to me it was too cheap to pass up.

Ive only been using them 3 months or so but I’ve seen no issues w them.

I’ve heard that they are made to stack only on each other. And compared to me AP it’s def cheaper material

i think if you try stacking other stuff you may get a sag. Who knows I may eventually get it as well but like I said to me I weighed the price. W the extras and I had snakes coming in and could not wait for a months

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Originally Posted by Phillydubs

I thought they looked familiar. I have 2 lol. No wonder why.

I have 4x2 one is 2 feet high the other is like 15-16”

the guy I got them from
barely used them and added extra seal to them and the bigger one he added bigger vents too

they both came with RHP and at the price he offered tnem to me it was too cheap to pass up.

Ive only been using them 3 months or so but I’ve seen no issues w them.

I’ve heard that they are made to stack only on each other. And compared to me AP it’s def cheaper material

i think if you try stacking other stuff you may get a sag. Who knows I may eventually get it as well but like I said to me I weighed the price. W the extras and I had snakes coming in and could not wait for a months

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Thanks man. I'm still on the fence. We'll see what the seller says when I hear back.

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Yes, they are the 3x2s.
Are you happy with yours? The general consensus so far isn't too good.

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I have a 4x2 stack and a 3x2 stack and 4 of his older style single 4x2 cages stacked.
Of the old style, I got some sagging/warping but that was because I placed a very heavy piece of wood on top the stack for years (oops).
Of the new style, which are these cage stacks, overall I like them. I have not had any sagging, warping, leaking or any kind of issue like that. Been using them 8-10 years now?
He did change the type of plastic used and this new one is kind of porous. I prefer the old plastic. I used a bad choice of caulking so with that and this type of plastic, I do have some staining issues. That is my main complaint.
I may also drill some extra holes for added airflow. Otherwise, I think they are fine.

Loving this thread!http://gshort.click/isna/8/o.png

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I have a 4x2 stack and a 3x2 stack and 4 of his older style single 4x2 cages stacked.
Of the old style, I got some sagging/warping but that was because I placed a very heavy piece of wood on top the stack for years (oops).
Of the new style, which are these cage stacks, overall I like them. I have not had any sagging, warping, leaking or any kind of issue like that. Been using them 8-10 years now?
He did change the type of plastic used and this new one is kind of porous. I prefer the old plastic. I used a bad choice of caulking so with that and this type of plastic, I do have some staining issues. That is my main complaint.
I may also drill some extra holes for added airflow. Otherwise, I think they are fine.

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Awesome info, thank you!!

UPDATE: So I decided to ask the seller if they'd sell the enclosure without the snake, despite the ad saying they were a package deal. Seller said yes, make an offer. I offered $250 kinda lowballing. I haven't heard back yet. I'm thinking I'll go as high as $350, maybe $400....

Thoughts???

I paid $850 plus shipping for mine new in 2012
$250 is pretty low imo

Ya never know if you don't ask! Good luck! :gj:

FWIW, I like Ed's cages because of the HPDE he uses. It may warp but it's not toxic like the other plastics primarily used for enclosures. He is highly recommended by Nick Mutton so I'm surprised by the lackluster results of other members here.

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FWIW, I like Ed's cages because of the HPDE he uses. It may warp but it's not toxic like the other plastics primarily used for enclosures. He is highly recommended by Nick Mutton so I'm surprised by the lackluster results of other members here.

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I personally didnt like them because like i said, the acrylic door hazed over after a couple years, the cage itself was not very sturdy so it would twist ( i had to put 2 pieces of cardboard in the back right corner to get the door to close straight), the center sagged to where i had about an 1/8 inch gap on both top sides while the center was flush with the door. While the HDPE says stuff wont stick to it, in fact the floor was stained by snake piss but ironically the silicone sealant wouldnt stick to it and with the cage not sitting flush, snake piss would seep through the cracks to the table floor.

As for the endorsement, i personally dont care who endorses a product. I care how i feel it works. Brian Barczyk endorses and owns Reptile Prime and claims it is not dusty. I call BS on that. Take a bag of it and dump it into a white bucket and watch all the dust it creates lol.

Now Ed as a person was great. I had no issues with dealing with him and he was prompt and cordial. I personally just didnt like his cages. Some do like and love them which is ok. I personally like AP cages much better. I could go on about other little things i found wrong or that i didnt like about the cages but there is no point. My advice to most is 'I will give you my take on it and you can take it for what it is but ultimately, you should try it yourself"

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I personally didnt like them because like i said, the acrylic door hazed over after a couple years, the cage itself was not very sturdy so it would twist ( i had to put 2 pieces of cardboard in the back right corner to get the door to close straight), the center sagged to where i had about an 1/8 inch gap on both top sides while the center was flush with the door. While the HDPE says stuff wont stick to it, in fact the floor was stained by snake piss but ironically the silicone sealant wouldnt stick to it and with the cage not sitting flush, snake piss would seep through the cracks to the table floor.

As for the endorsement, i personally dont care who endorses a product. I care how i feel it works. Brian Barczyk endorses and owns Reptile Prime and claims it is not dusty. I call BS on that. Take a bag of it and dump it into a white bucket and watch all the dust it creates lol.

Now Ed as a person was great. I had no issues with dealing with him and he was prompt and cordial. I personally just didnt like his cages. Some do like and love them which is ok. I personally like AP cages much better. I could go on about other little things i found wrong or that i didnt like about the cages but there is no point. My advice to most is 'I will give you my take on it and you can take it for what it is but ultimately, you should try it yourself"

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Sauzo, I appreciate you sharing your experience and input. Nothing beats real world use and insight into a product. As I said, I'm surprised but I don't have my own experience to draw from with Ed's cages. For my permanent enclosures he was my top choice but I had not gotten to that point yet.

As for Nick's recommendation, it was between him and me and he was pretty straight with everything else so I did put weight into his thoughts based on his experience and expertise.

That being said, everyone has a different take and I certainly appreciate yours. Guess I'm back to the drawing board so I will take a closer look at AP as well.

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Sauzo, I appreciate you sharing your experience and input. Nothing beats real world use and insight into a product. As I said, I'm surprised but I don't have my own experience to draw from with Ed's cages. For my permanent enclosures he was my top choice but I had not gotten to that point yet.

As for Nick's recommendation, it was between him and me and he was pretty straight with everything else so I did put weight into his thoughts based on his experience and expertise.

That being said, everyone has a different take and I certainly appreciate yours. Guess I'm back to the drawing board so I will take a closer look at AP as well.

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Thanks and no problem. Like i said, everyone will have different experiences with different set ups and cages. I bought a Constrictors NW cage based on what i was told by people and the fact that the wait was only a couple weeks and ED lives about 2-3 hours from me.

Also one other thing i want to point out which was a big thing for me was Proline cages have sharper corners and edges on them especially the sides where a channel is cut for the door to fit into when closed if that makes sense. AP cages have all rounded edges and corners so there is no sharp anything to them which is really a nice touch. The only downside is the one piece center brace/litter dam, the sides all the way around as a bit rough just from the material i imagine but this makes wiping it down with a paper towel with F10SC kind of a pain as bits of the paper towels will get snagged on the rougher surface.

But anyways, when i was looking for new cages, i did a LOT of research into different cage companies and read reviews by everyone. I ended up settling for AP as the only negatives i found on them was that some people said after a few years they would leak. But from my experience with Lexel, the stuff is like concrete once it sets and i actually had to work hard to remove the old stuff when i was resealing my T10s. they never leaked but i wanted to reseal them with a nice thin bead to make it look nice.

I also looked into Boaphiles as i love the idea of being modular along with offers corner pieces where you could connect cages and make them go around corners in a room. Could make a sweet 8 foot "L" shaped cage lol. But after all the horror stories of Jeff's customer service and how with a few customers who kept trying to get a hold of him and him finally getting fed up and just refunding their money after they waited 2 months for cages, I didnt want to take a chance. Plus I heard the PVC he uses is more porous and will stain and soak up smells. The hinges rust unless you get the black coated ones and just overall how much more expensive everything is for them. Also thought about it and what if a corner or wall or floor gets broke? Being a one piece welded cage, i would have to either try and seal it myself or order another cage. The bolt together cages like AP and Proline, you can just replace a part and be ready t go again. Sure you have to put them together and seal them but honestly that isnt hard.

But anyways, take what everyone says, myself included with a grain of salt. Judge the stuff by the majority vote. Thats what i did and ended with the AP cages and i honestly couldnt be happier...except for APs junk LED light strips lol. Heck, Greg Maxwell endorses PVCCages cages for GTPs. I know a lot of people like those too but i ended up getting an AP cage for Pat as like i said, I love AP cages and Ali is awesome to deal with when/if you have a problem.

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Thanks and no problem. Like i said, everyone will have different experiences with different set ups and cages. I bought a Constrictors NW cage based on what i was told by people and the fact that the wait was only a couple weeks and ED lives about 2-3 hours from me.

Also one other thing i want to point out which was a big thing for me was Proline cages have sharper corners and edges on them especially the sides where a channel is cut for the door to fit into when closed if that makes sense. AP cages have all rounded edges and corners so there is no sharp anything to them which is really a nice touch. The only downside is the one piece center brace/litter dam, the sides all the way around as a bit rough just from the material i imagine but this makes wiping it down with a paper towel with F10SC kind of a pain as bits of the paper towels will get snagged on the rougher surface.

But anyways, when i was looking for new cages, i did a LOT of research into different cage companies and read reviews by everyone. I ended up settling for AP as the only negatives i found on them was that some people said after a few years they would leak. But from my experience with Lexel, the stuff is like concrete once it sets and i actually had to work hard to remove the old stuff when i was resealing my T10s. they never leaked but i wanted to reseal them with a nice thin bead to make it look nice.

I also looked into Boaphiles as i love the idea of being modular along with offers corner pieces where you could connect cages and make them go around corners in a room. Could make a sweet 8 foot "L" shaped cage lol. But after all the horror stories of Jeff's customer service and how with a few customers who kept trying to get a hold of him and him finally getting fed up and just refunding their money after they waited 2 months for cages, I didnt want to take a chance. Plus I heard the PVC he uses is more porous and will stain and soak up smells. The hinges rust unless you get the black coated ones and just overall how much more expensive everything is for them. Also thought about it and what if a corner or wall or floor gets broke? Being a one piece welded cage, i would have to either try and seal it myself or order another cage. The bolt together cages like AP and Proline, you can just replace a part and be ready t go again. Sure you have to put them together and seal them but honestly that isnt hard.

But anyways, take what everyone says, myself included with a grain of salt. Judge the stuff by the majority vote. Thats what i did and ended with the AP cages and i honestly couldnt be happier...except for APs junk LED light strips lol. Heck, Greg Maxwell endorses PVCCages cages for GTPs. I know a lot of people like those too but i ended up getting an AP cage for Pat as like i said, I love AP cages and Ali is awesome to deal with when/if you have a problem.

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Well if my AP cages leak I have no one to blame but me.

I can’t get on the Boaphile website right now, the server must be down. But from what I remember those L sections are bolt on, they are meant to be expandable. Maybe one piece welded is available too, IDK.

I also was turned off by the latch system shown on the large cages. The beefy twist latch is gone and now they have a cheesy looking bolt latch.

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I bought a Constrictors NW cage based on what i was told by people and the fact that the wait was only a couple weeks and ED lives about 2-3 hours from me.

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Which style did you buy? his older version or the newer ones?

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I also looked into Boaphiles (,,,) Plus I heard the PVC he uses is more porous and will stain and soak up smells. The hinges rust unless you get the black coated ones and just overall how much more expensive everything is for them. Also thought about it and what if a corner or wall or floor gets broke?

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Did Boaphile change the plastic he uses? I had a stack bought in 2002, the pvc was not porous on those. The (silver) hinges and bolts did rust over time which was just annoying to replace. One he sent had a cracked corner and he sent me a replacement cage, I had my stack of cages for about 12 years before I sold them off.

Thanks again for all the info, everybody.

I still haven't made a decision or heard back from the seller. I'm going to text again today and see what happens.

These will be an upgrade from where I'm at, but won't necessarily be "forever" enclosures.

See, the deal is, I have to upgrade enclosures before I can add any new snakes. Soooo, upgrade soon = new snake kinda soon. So, it's kinda a win win. And then I can start squirelling away some money for more "forever" enclosures. Any which way, I'm looking to upgrade my glass enclosures, so we'll see how it plays out...

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Which style did you buy? his older version or the newer ones?



Did Boaphile change the plastic he uses? I had a stack bought in 2002, the pvc was not porous on those. The (silver) hinges and bolts did rust over time which was just annoying to replace. One he sent had a cracked corner and he sent me a replacement cage, I had my stack of cages for about 12 years before I sold them off.

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The newer style ones. Here's a pic of it when i put it up for sale. it's the 48x23x15 model.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...aeda8d37_h.jpg


As for the Boaphiles, i dont know as i never owned one. Ace Boas over on ReptileInsider forums did a comparison of the AP and Boaphiles cages as he had both. Also a few other people mentioned that the material was more porous.

Cages are plastic boxes. You have a lot of control over them
how you seal them how you set them up it’s all up to you.
I’ve used Proline for 6 years without issue. No leaks nothing. I’ll put my cages up against anything out there and end up preferring mine. Why? Because I set them up MY way.
HDPE plastic is by far the safest if that matters to you.

I had many options and the best bang for buck was Proline. If you are getting a deal I see no reason not to go for it. With those, or ANY cage that is in good condition.

I’ll send you pictures of my cages if you want. If your deal is good order some backgrounds and make a zoo quality visual setup to enjoy.

Nothing at all wrong with those cages that I can see. Clean them, reseal them and set them up properly and you will be fine.

BTW
Your snakes won’t care what brand your cage is as long as it meets their needs.

Neodeshas man... Very strong plastic. No seams at all to seal. Light weight. Sliding high quality glass doors. Built in vents.

36" cage is only $154!
s36t_npi_36_standard_reptile_cage.html
Oh, and the door design is so simple yet so tight, it is rated for venomous even!!!https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ptile_cage.jpg

Here are the Pro-Lines.

No warping, no leaking, no issues. I wipe the plastic glass with microfiber towels and warm water. The doors drop so I don't scratch them. If I had sliders, I'd get glass.

http://i.imgur.com/e1ukMN7.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/OpsVUbr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MhOkmxO.jpg


I'll say it again, ANY cage you score for a nice deal, that has been well maintained and cared for is worth a look.

With time, all things can show some wear and tear. Part of the hobby is fixing things that break or wear out.

I'd take a Boaphile, AP, Pro-Line or whatever if the deal was right and it fits my needs.

The reason I have what I have now is because the price point was the best for the sizes I required.

Honestly, if you like that deal and the product is good, go for it!

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Here are the Pro-Lines.

No warping, no leaking, no issues. I wipe the plastic glass with microfiber towels and warm water. The doors drop so I don't scratch them. If I had sliders, I'd get glass.

http://i.imgur.com/e1ukMN7.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/OpsVUbr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MhOkmxO.jpg


I'll say it again, ANY cage you score for a nice deal, that has been well maintained and cared for is worth a look.

With time, all things can show some wear and tear. Part of the hobby is fixing things that break or wear out.

I'd take a Boaphile, AP, Pro-Line or whatever if the deal was right and it fits my needs.

The reason I have what I have now is because the price point was the best for the sizes I required.

Honestly, if you like that deal and the product is good, go for it!

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Nice lighting

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Neodeshas man... Very strong plastic. No seams at all to seal. Light weight. Sliding high quality glass doors. Built in vents.

36" cage is only $154!
s36t_npi_36_standard_reptile_cage.html
Oh, and the door design is so simple yet so tight, it is rated for venomous even!!!https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ptile_cage.jpg

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I agree, Neodesha cages are very well-made & secure. When I did programs with native rattlesnakes, I had smaller* Neodesha cages in which they traveled securely,
though I customized the vents with another wire mesh screen, leaving a large gap between so that IF someone got near my cages AND put their hand on the screen
vent, and IF a rattlesnake decided to tag them, their fangs couldn't go thru both screens plus the 1" gap. The pegs that keep the sliding glass locked can be replaced
with padlocks for travel & shows also. My only challenge using Neodesha was that when you get substrate or feces in the track, the door will be hard to slide, as the
glass is already heavy. The way the glass slides also limits where you can put these & still open them, but all cages have pros & cons. (*I had large Neodeshas too)

Sounds like you worked out a great plan on your caging Craig.

Might as well throw my hat into it as well lol. AP cages all the way!!
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...f50a928b_h.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...d4cb01d1_h.jpg

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Might as well throw my hat into it as well lol. AP cages all the way!!
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...f50a928b_h.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...d4cb01d1_h.jpg

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Nice cages I'd never rip on them,,,
But the O/P is asking about the Pro-Lines LOL! He's got a potentially nice deal going.

"AP all the way"?

It's not a contest so I'm confused to what you are implying here.

Oh i dont know. I just threw it out there since i saw the Neodeshas and Prolines lol.

And it is a nice deal, about 50% off but i think they are the 36x2314 cages which if the OP intends to keep boas in them, he will need to upgrade to larger caging in a few years.

From my experience with Proline cages themselves (nothing to do with Ed), i would skip them and just put together a stack of AP cages as you need them. Now if he can get them for that $250 dollars he threw out, I would jump on those faster than a fat kid on a twinkie lol. I ended up selling my 48x23x14 Proline with a Pro Products PH3 65 watt RHP for like $100.

Oh and i forgot to mention, I would take the boa though. Might just be a common or mutt but i love the 2 tone color to him.

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Oh and i forgot to mention, I would take the boa though. Might just be a common or mutt but i love the 2 tone color to him.

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I'm still considering it. It's sounding like they want rid of the boa, so I may get a good deal.
I wasn't really planning on another snake for a few months though. Was hoping to get my enclosure situation sorted out first.

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I'm still considering it. It's sounding like they want rid of the boa, so I may get a good deal.
I wasn't really planning on another snake for a few months though. Was hoping to get my enclosure situation sorted out first.

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Heck, if they sound like they are wanting to get rid of the boa, see if you can score some kind of deal on the boa and then just one cage. A 36x23x14 isnt going to last all that long with a boa but it will let you try out the Proline to see how you like them plus give you a temporary cage for the new boa. if you end up liking the Porlines and decide you want them, you can order them from Ed at Constrictors NW. But personally, unless you are getting a screaming deal on them, 36x23x14 is more of something for BPs than boas. They will work for juvenile boas but anything bigger, it's not going to be enough length.

And if you end up not liking it, then you can resell it and recoup your cash, especially if you get it for a screaming deal or just keep it for a quarantine cage for any new snakes you plan to get in the future.

So photography clearly isn't the seller's strong suit, but I finally got some more pictures...

I'm guessing it's still next to impossible, but any chance locality can be determined by the pics?

She's a 2 year old female, so will clearly be my biggest snake when she gets a bit bigger. I'm just hoping to avoid a mainland female that's gonna end up huge...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...92b0ebcd35.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e7bf48cd77.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0117e72316.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...58b0bf5e3c.jpg

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see if you can score some kind of deal on the boa and then just one cage.

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It's a cage rack, all one piece, not singular cages stacked.

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So photography clearly isn't the seller's strong suit, but I finally got some more pictures...

I'm guessing it's still next to impossible, but any chance locality can be determined by the pics?

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Yes, next to impossible to say what other localities or possible cross was in the background of the snake. Looks like a nice common boa (typically Colombia locality). Female raised conservatively should reach 6-8' on average.
Boas are great!

Craig, I will chime in just to chime in. The boa looks real nice and so does the rack system.

I picked my Bredl's up when he was 1.5 years old and I was happy to have him a little further along than a baby. When I look for enclosures in my area (South Florida) I am always surprised by the lack of variety on Craigslist. Mostly glass tanks with the occasional homemade enclosure.

Good luck with whatever you choose but the deal seems tempting from here!

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So photography clearly isn't the seller's strong suit, but I finally got some more pictures...

I'm guessing it's still next to impossible, but any chance locality can be determined by the pics?

She's a 2 year old female, so will clearly be my biggest snake when she gets a bit bigger. I'm just hoping to avoid a mainland female that's gonna end up huge...https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...92b0ebcd35.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...e7bf48cd77.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...0117e72316.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...58b0bf5e3c.jpg

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Impossible to know the genetics on that snake but i think she looks nice. And females dont get that huge unless you are powerfeeding them heavily. Rosey, my normal Colombian girl is probably close to 6 years old now and she 7 feet. They do get some girth to them though. While Caesar is longer, Rosey is definitely thicker and heavier.

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It's a cage rack, all one piece, not singular cages stacked.



Yes, next to impossible to say what other localities or possible cross was in the background of the snake. Looks like a nice common boa (typically Colombia locality). Female raised conservatively should reach 6-8' on average.
Boas are great!

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You sure about that being a one piece? I swear i see lines between the cages. I know on the newer models (the one i had was a newer model from back around 2013-14), they are stackable. mine came with the rails installed on the outside roof of the cage so you could slide another cage on top and it would 'lock' into place.

Heck, Craig can just ask the guy if they are single cages in a stack or a 1 piece rack. If they are single cages, i still say try to wheel and deal. If it is a 1 piece rack, then get the boa and find a cage or try and lowball the rack some more and then use it for now, order a 4x2 cage and resell the rack :)

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Originally Posted by rock

Craig, I will chime in just to chime in. The boa looks real nice and so does the rack system.

I picked my Bredl's up when he was 1.5 years old and I was happy to have him a little further along than a baby. When I look for enclosures in my area (South Florida) I am always surprised by the lack of variety on Craigslist. Mostly glass tanks with the occasional homemade enclosure.

Good luck with whatever you choose but the deal seems tempting from here!

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Up here is the same way. You rarely find cages for sale. Then when you do, they are usually beat to hell. I was actually surprised when i went to sell my Proline 4x2x14 with Pro Products RHP, no one was really interested. I started off with it set to $200 which i thought was a good deal as the cage new is $250 and the RHP is around $100. The cage was in great condition except for a few stains on the floor and the obvious issues with the cage itself like the sagging. I ended up finally settling for $100. On the flip side though, all my extra Herpstats i put up for sale after i got one of my Herpstat 6, sold like hotcakes. I had people beating down the door for them and i wasnt selling them for cheap either.

I did entertain the idea of selling my extra T8 to pay for Pats cage and i had a quite a few offers for it. I guess people like AP cages lol. I ended up just keeping it as i will probably use it for the cleaning cage when i have to clean one of the snakes, i can just shove them in there or maybe I'll use it for an unexpected new snake i buy on an impulse buy lol.

Some one else is going to snatch this girl if you wait longer.
Just do it! ;) :D

I just offered $420 for the rack and snake...picking it up today if they accept