Mojave color variations?

Hey i was wondering about the color variatons on mojaves i picked up 2 (1 male, 1 female) they are from different breeeders the male is dark and the female is bright is this normal or is there some other genes at play?https://i.imgur.com/x65qRA8.jpg

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That first snake looks more like a mojave yellowbelly to me.

That's what I'm stumped on I'm pretty sure there's something else going on here

Yeah, there definitely is, the lack of any dorsal striping is a dead giveaway as well.

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Yeah, there definitely is, the lack of any dorsal striping is a dead giveaway as well.

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Wow how did i not notice that i think i need to get a female normal and see what i get from him. Not a bad $40 dollar investment

Not bad at all, the side pattern does indicate that there is mojave in that snake, but there is something else as well, my guess is yellowbelly but there are a few other possibilities as well.

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Not bad at all, the side pattern does indicate that there is mojave in that snake, but there is something else as well, my guess is yellowbelly but there are a few other possibilities as well.

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awesome I think you are right that's the closest thing I have found maybe some others will chime in with some other possibilities. Now I wish I would have asked the pairing when I bought him I didn't think anything of it till I had another Mojave to compare him to

My Mojave girl has bright yellows. Her mom was bright as well until adulthood then greyed out as most of them do. The breeder said as far as he knows was just Mohave. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...686626c66c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...107ac82ee6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2c2787172c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b239729b2d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...27ee2568c2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4192c9e457.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...06696fa662.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1f1da8b32b.jpg

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My Mojave girl has bright yellows. Her mom was bright as well until adulthood then greyed out as most of them do. The breeder said as far as he knows was just Mohave. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...686626c66c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...107ac82ee6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2c2787172c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b239729b2d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...27ee2568c2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4192c9e457.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...06696fa662.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1f1da8b32b.jpg

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Love her high yellow, my male is not black he almost has a cinnamon complexion to him even Mojave patterning it's not bright it's almost hot chocolate looking idk lol

So I was at a local breeder and I was asking him to explain the “mojave pattern” to me and he said that mojave “dosnt have a patern” he said it was just a color mutation , but I feel like most mojaves have a specific pater with the alien heads . Now I’m so confused as how to tell what about my mojave banana pewter shows her mojave .

So I guess what I’m getting at Is there a specific pattern for mojave ????

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Last pic is her with my banana yellow belly taken by the breeder Dynasty reptiles


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The breeder should probably not be breeding if he told you that. :rolleyes:

Mojave is mostly a pattern mutation, and causes the "cheerio" effect along the sides of the snake, as opposed to the "alien head" effect on most other bps. The color of most mojaves tends to be dark at birth, with yellow markings on the sides and dorsal area. This all fades as they age, but pattern remains the same.

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The breeder should probably not be breeding if he told you that. :rolleyes:

Mojave is mostly a pattern mutation, and causes the "cheerio" effect along the sides of the snake, as opposed to the "alien head" effect on most other bps. The color of most mojaves tends to be dark at birth, with yellow markings on the sides and dorsal area. This all fades as they age, but pattern remains the same.

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Thank you that’s what I thought ! The breeder I got my girls off of wasn’t the breeder who told me that it’s the breeder I get my rats from. He kinda made me feel stupid for saying it .



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The breeder should probably not be breeding if he told you that. :rolleyes:

Mojave is mostly a pattern mutation, and causes the "cheerio" effect along the sides of the snake, as opposed to the "alien head" effect on most other bps. The color of most mojaves tends to be dark at birth, with yellow markings on the sides and dorsal area. This all fades as they age, but pattern remains the same.

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Also does my girl look like she has the mojave patern to you ?


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Also does my girl look like she has the mojave patern to you ?


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She does, see the o pattern running along her sides? Dead givaway. This tends to show up in some form in almost all mojave combos.

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She does, see the o pattern running along her sides? Dead givaway. This tends to show up in some form in almost all mojave combos.

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Awesome man thank you ! I’m so pumped I got to the bottom of that



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Im taking the mojaves to Mike over at Morphmart reptiles on saturday he seems to think from the pics its a yellow belly mojave ill know for sure when he sees it in person i will update the thread with what he said if anyones curious 😂

****UPDATE*******
Mike over @ Morphmart reptiles said its a yellow belly Mojave for sure cant wait to see what i can do with the yellow belly gene in this Mojave.
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Awesome, sounds like you got quite the deal after all. Yellowbelly is a great gene, it enhances almost anything it's paired with, adds contrast and color.

Yeah i cant wait my buddys got specter females for sale i think i might grab a Specter female to cross with this mojave YB