Some Questions

I have had my ball python (eskimo) for about a month now and wante to know if i am doing things right.

1.Feeds every monday on 2 live mice or i just started her on f/t weanlings. 1 to start with
2. uses a 75 watt bulb for heating
3. Humidity is at 60-70% depending on were in the tank
4. 10 gallon tank planning on switching to a rubbermaid
5. 3 hides
6. Never refuses to eat
7. I needed to help he shed her head and most of her body but humidity was at 60-70
Anyone have any suggestions

What are the temperatures. A 10g is a little small for almost any size ball python. How big is he.

She is a juvie like 3 months old ant the basking spot is 90 and it gos down to 80ish

80 degrees is too cold for a basking spot. it should stay at a constent 90-92 degrees.

The cold side is 80isd not the basking spot

i have a 4 month old bp and she is feeding every 5 days on 1 adult mouse. i would go with an adult at least every seven days.

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Originally Posted by snunior

The cold side is 80isd not the basking spot

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oh the sentance was weirded funny

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the basking spot is 90 and it gos down to 80ish

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sorry

Good news
1. My ball python is growing rapidly and shed for the second time this month in a FULL piece.
2. It IS A RINGER

wow, twice in one month... he is growing fast

A ringer ,wow! Get some pics of it.

does he meen ringed python?

here is some info on ringers :)

http://www.joecompelreptiles.com/col...nger/index.asp

oooooh, are they expensive?

I doubt it is much more exspensive than a norm becuase it isn't genetic. Well we don't know yet. Either way I want to see a pic of it.

wow, talk about dynamic duos. :P ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

wow, talk about dynamic duos. :P ;)

-adam

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Hey whatya mean by that. :confused:

I will get some pictures of her tonight.
And she is deffianately a ringer, with each shed the white keeps coming up.


I am real happy because i bought her from a pet (regretfully) and she was only 70 grams when i bought her but now shes eating and shedding like a pig and shes healthy!!!

And shes a RINGER

And i bought her for 30$

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Originally Posted by snunior

And i bought her for 30$

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That is an insane price! I can barely find a CB (I am asuming that you bought CB) male Normal for $30 ,but you bought a Female Ringer for the price.

Hmm will the white "ring" eventually go all around the snake (like a band of white)

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Originally Posted by HelicopterPilot

That is an insane price! I can barely find a CB (I am asuming that you bought CB) male Normal for $30 ,but you bought a Female Ringer for the price.

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For $30, it wasn't captive bred.

-adam

A ringer isnt really a ring its more when the white from the belly continus on the pattern. I would suggest you checking reptileauction they have cheap normal cb from breeders.

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Originally Posted by snunior

I would suggest you checking reptileauction they have cheap normal cb from breeders.

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Sure they do. ;)

-adam

Or bye straight from Adam the best of the best (even though ive never bought from him. Lol.

I would definately check out people before purchasing from them on reptileauction....you have to know who you can trust in the bp business :)

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Originally Posted by snunior

Or bye straight from Adam the best of the best (even though ive never bought from him. Lol.

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Actually, I don't sell normal females as a rule so it's not about buying from me or not ... I couldn't care less .... my point was ... as someone that lives, eats, and breathes, ball pythons as a hobby and a business 24 hours a day, I can say with great confidence that female ball pythons being sold for $30 are not captive bred. And if you're finding them on Reptile Auction, you're in even worse shape ... that place is the arm pit of the industry.

Hope that cleared things up a little. :D

-adam

where could i find a ringer for sale? CB ringer that is.

ralph davis has two for sale......they are $5000 each....and both males...
ha ha....and they are both possible DH for pied and lav. albino...

Ringers are kinda random but they usually appear in 'other than normal x normal' clutches due to the fact that most people are not breedeing normal x normal. Because of this, alot of ringers may also be hets... so you can expect to pay the het price + extra in that case.

You just have to search around for that kinda stuff :)

aaah man 5k, thats crazy!!
i was just wonderin right after i got off this thread... my cousin has a BP and it has an unusual amount of white coming up from it stomach. could it be a ringer? next time i go over to his house ill try to take a pic of it.

It deffinately is captive bred. It has the best tempermant and eats f/t or live rats.

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Originally Posted by snunior

It deffinately is captive bred. It has the best tempermant and eats f/t or live rats.

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CH snakes also can have great temperments and eat f/t, live, or pk .... I could show you 100 baby ball pythons and there's no way you'd ever know which ones are CH and which are CB. For $30, the snake was most likely an CH import that was purchased for $12 and marked up 2.5 times. I've been working in the hobby/business for almost 10 years and have seen it happen thousands of times.

CH ball pythons out number CB in the United States by about 100 to 1.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

CH ball pythons out number CB in the United States by about 100 to 1.

-adam

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thats sad:(

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Originally Posted by mr~python

thats sad:(

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Not really.

-adam

wouldnt you perfer the snakes be CB and not hatched from a wild female?

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Originally Posted by mr~python

wouldnt you perfer the snakes be CB and not hatched from a wild female?

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Actually, as a breeder, no.

-adam

but isnt that taking would-be clutches of babys out of the wild?

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Originally Posted by mr~python

but isnt that taking would-be clutches of babys out of the wild?

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They're coming out of the wild one way or another.

-adam

Ball pythons are doing great in the wild due to the increased amount of farmland in their home regions. Read this research article for more info:

http://www.stevegorzulapresents.com/...thon_ghana.pdf

Well actually adam i have to correct you on something. I can get a female ball python cbb fr $25 as i belong to a herp club. but just saying.

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Originally Posted by amg20102006

Well actually adam i have to correct you on something. I can get a female ball python cbb fr $25 as i belong to a herp club. but just saying.

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Yup. CB. If they say it is, then it must be. LMAO!

-adam

was that sarcastic? no trying t be harsh here btu i no that they are cb or cbb because he breeds them his self. he also breeds BRB's man are those things beautiful.

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Originally Posted by amg20102006

was that sarcastic? no trying t be harsh here btu i no that they are cb or cbb because he breeds them his self. he also breeds BRB's man are those things beautiful.

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Yes ... sarcastic.

For $25 they are males or CH animals being sold as CB.

and BTW ... CB & CBB are the same thing.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Actually, I don't sell normal females as a rule so it's not about buying from me or not ... I couldn't care less .... my point was ... as someone that lives, eats, and breathes, ball pythons as a hobby and a business 24 hours a day, I can say with great confidence that female ball pythons being sold for $30 are not captive bred. And if you're finding them on Reptile Auction, you're in even worse shape ... that place is the arm pit of the industry.

Hope that cleared things up a little. :D

-adam

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Listen to the man young padawan! He is a master jedi! I can co-sign. I was lucky enough to get a female bp from him and I can say...LUCKY. I also assure you she was way more than 30 bux and she's in pristine shape and I'm trying to make Master Wysocki proud of his new Jedi apprentice. :D

Man I had a ringer one time, sheesh... The doctor gave me a shot in the butt and some cream to take home and I was ok in a week.. Hope you guys get it taken care of:)

Hey everyone on here knows I've got some killer deals on females lately. So here's the real "deal" I got, you be the judge.

#1 $50.00 unsexed from a pet store...later found to be female...this is called BLIND LUCK

#2 free rescue, later found to be female....again...pure BLIND LUCK

#3 free WC non-eating rescue, known to be female

#4 & #5 $130.00 bought from a pet store....add in vet costs to that as I had them vetted and sexed (females) prior to purchase

Okay so still seems like I got some great deals. I did...to a degree.

Now add in....#3 wasn't eating....so add in fecal samples, buying high cost gerbils to get her eating and the high level of stress involved in rehabbing a non-eating WC, also future vet visits if she suddenly refuses again as she is already underweight as it is

Also add in...#5...highly aggressive....not a pet...some deal she would have been for a person looking for a pet eh

Add in to all the above, costs for fecal samples, possible vet visits when you buy snakes of uncertain, unknown backgrounds and perhaps either unsexed or improperly sexed. Add in just plain old stress.

I'm not complaining. I got some lovely females that have all our hopes and dreams residing in their snakey bodies but think again if you think deals are always deals. Personally, I can't wait for Finn to arrive from his great breeder. It'll be nice to finally have one snake in the house that I actually know something about!

As for ReptileAuction, sure I look there too. Most of the so called breeders there when I run them on Fauna BOI....I run the other way but if you have the money to gamble (we sure don't) feel free.


~~Jo~~

Oh and on the old CB, CBB thing. Personally I don't care what smoke the pet store blows up my.....you get the idea. I mark all our snakes that come from any source other than a breeder I trust as "of unknown origin".


~~Jo~~

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Originally Posted by justcage

Man I had a ringer one time, sheesh... The doctor gave me a shot in the butt and some cream to take home and I was ok in a week.. Hope you guys get it taken care of:)

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There's a joke in there that uses the word "sheep" and it's dying to get out!! :P

-adam

Mauhahahahahahahahahha