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Misclassified? Help!?

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  • 04-17-2018, 10:28 PM
    Kirablan
    Misclassified? Help!?
    My significant other and I recently bought a male ball python from a pet shop. They told us one kind of morph the first time we came in as some kind of Banana Ghost with a third gene they had not identified yet. The next time they told us Pastel Enchi Ghost, but when I was looking at morphs online I came across a Calico-Caramel Albino-Desert Ghost-Pastel. We were hoping for some help narrowing it down or confirming what he is and maybe getting some name ideas in the process.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...44759296_n.jpg
  • 04-17-2018, 11:09 PM
    StillBP
    Re: Misclassified? Help!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kirablan View Post
    My significant other and I recently bought a male ball python from a pet shop. They told us one kind of morph the first time we came in as some kind of Banana Ghost with a third gene they had not identified yet. The next time they told us Pastel Enchi Ghost, but when I was looking at morphs online I came across a Calico-Caramel Albino-Desert Ghost-Pastel. We were hoping for some help narrowing it down or confirming what he is and maybe getting some name ideas in the process.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...44759296_n.jpg

    Mojave bumblebee. (pastel Mojave spider)
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9d9a8b1124.jpg

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  • 04-17-2018, 11:43 PM
    silverbill
    I don’t really see the spider or mojave. Looks like super pastel ghost/hypo or something similar to me.
  • 04-18-2018, 05:46 AM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: Misclassified? Help!?
    +1 For Mojave Bee

    Pastel - Yellow color - Not Super Pastel - Head is too dark
    Mojave - The single spot pattern along the sides
    Spider - The broken dorsal stripe down the back.
  • 04-18-2018, 07:26 AM
    StillBP
    Re: Misclassified? Help!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    +1 For Mojave Bee

    Pastel - Yellow color - Not Super Pastel - Head is too dark
    Mojave - The single spot pattern along the sides
    Spider - The broken dorsal stripe down the back.

    Exactly what I saw. Definitely not super pastel

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  • 04-18-2018, 08:19 AM
    silverbill
    It doesn’t have the spider headstamp though. Personally I have a mojave bumblebee and have seen several and they don’t look quite like that. See headstamp on mine. https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/xkWOqpC.jpg
  • 04-18-2018, 11:59 AM
    cchardwick
    I think Spider would be obvious with a wobble or stargazing in most cases.
  • 04-18-2018, 12:52 PM
    Kirablan
    Re: Misclassified? Help!?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cchardwick View Post
    I think Spider would be obvious with a wobble or stargazing in most cases.

    He has been handled and shows no signs of wobble, stargazing, or coordination issues. He climbs a lot in his cage with no trouble. We have not fed him yet so we will have to see if anything manifests then.
  • 04-18-2018, 01:07 PM
    AbsoluteApril
    lots of morph combos start to look the same, especially with more genes in the mix, that it can be really hard to tell sometimes. The only way to know is to find out what the parents were or through breeding trials.
    I am not seeing calico, banana, enchi or caramel in there, looks more like a ghost/hypo, pastel with something else but who knows.
    Pretty snake though!
  • 04-18-2018, 02:15 PM
    Alter-Echo
    It's definitely got mojave in there, but beyond that, there are dozens of possibilities. It looks very similar to my blackbee mojave orange ghost as far as the pattern goes, so I'm willing to bet there is spider in there though.
  • 04-18-2018, 06:03 PM
    dr del
    Re: Misclassified? Help!?
    I suck at these! :(

    Super pastel vanilla? **sticks pin on the donkeys ear**
  • 05-15-2018, 10:24 PM
    Kirablan
    Re: Misclassified? Help!?
    Well I have an update on Mr. Problem Child. He is causing quite a ruckus, but otherwise is a lovely BP. He has been named Jasper. He just came out of shed so I was able to get some pictures of him in natural light if they can help. Sorry for the super big pictures.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...92740352_n.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...0_n_435214.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...6_n_344590.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...0_n_402127.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery//sh...mageuser=73206
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery//sh...mageuser=73206
  • 05-15-2018, 11:10 PM
    Crowfingers
    Re: Misclassified? Help!?
    with the new outdoor pics (and little knowledge of morphology) I'd say pastel ghost +/- something I don't recognize.
    I personally don't see spider: the pale/fade/washed out look makes me think ghost and the green eyes make me think pastel...unless there is another morph that bleaches things?
  • 05-15-2018, 11:13 PM
    Godzilla78
    Misclassified? Help!?
    Pastel Mojave ghost
  • 05-16-2018, 12:35 AM
    Alter-Echo
    Really does look like mine a bit...

    I'm gonna say.... pastel spider mojave orange ghost.
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