Reptile Prime, now with free shipping

Got an email from BHB today, just thought I'd share the info

Always? Or just right now?

right now. OP beat me to it.

LINK.

Dang...I still have a full bag and still part of my herptopia bag.

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

Dang...I still have a full bag and still part of my herptopia bag.

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i have a whole brick of ReptiChip from NARBC and even i'm thinking of buying a couple bags here LOL. you guys certainly sell it enough; it sounds great! perfect time to try it.

Well it is amazing! Like seriously.....AMAZING!

This is still exorbitantly expensive unless you only have a couple animals. I don't really get the hype. There are plenty of other choices that won't cost $100+/month.

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This is still exorbitantly expensive unless you only have a couple animals. I don't really get the hype. There are plenty of other choices that won't cost $100+/month.

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So get something else cheaper. Lol. It is worth the price lol.

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Originally Posted by Ernie Mccracken

This is still exorbitantly expensive unless you only have a couple animals. I don't really get the hype. There are plenty of other choices that won't cost $100+/month.

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I agree. I tried it and to be honest, I'm not that impressed. The stuff might absorb water great but with it being still relatively small pieces, it loses that water fairly quick too. I used it for my GTP and i have to mist the stuff at least twice a week and within a day it is dried out. With the ReptiChips being bigger chunk so coco, it holds much more water per piece so it means i need to mist a lot less. Like once a week to week and a half. Havent tried the Zoo Med cypress in the GTP cage but i will when i use up the rest of the Reptile Prime. I imagine it will hold water well as the stuff holds humidity like crazy in the AP cages.

And i imagine Brian offered free shipping now as he was losing business from all the other substrate companies offering either a flat shipping price or free shipping.

I dont get the hype either. I had to try it though to see for myself and maybe I'm in the minority but i dont see it. For large constrictors, i think the stuff would suck. Too light and fluffy and would easily get shoved into the corners and along the walls of the cage when a big snakes moves around. I can see it good for maybe a BP which is more or less a pet rock and stay fairly small though but still, the cypress works just as well. And it's actually cheaper. Sure it's not a renewable resource but no denying the stuff is awesome.

And finally, you all do know that it really isnt 'free' shipping. If you notice, the price of the stuff used to be $15.99 plus $5.00 shipping. On my old receipt for the stuff last month, it was a total of $20.99 for 1 bag shipped. Now you look at the price of it and it is $20.99 with free shipping.....not really free shipping lol.

When you follow the link tttaylorrr shared, it's actually $15.99 with free shipping😊

I will stick with pure coconut substrate at a cheaper price, and no shipping.

8 bucks for coco from the hydro store. All of these rebranded crap is just a waste. Reptile Prime is too expensive and will remain that way until its in all retail chains. Reptichip is cleaned up rebranded stuff. If you just have to have the best looking and cleanest coco chips than you want Hydro Farm Coco Croutons. Its literally the best chips on the market. I get them from the Hydro Store, in bags so no soaking and pricewise its cheaper than reptichip and reptile prime. Shop around people.

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Originally Posted by Avsha531

When you follow the link tttaylorrr shared, it's actually $15.99 with free shipping��

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That is not the same stuff. That is the finer stuff. The medium grade stuff is the 20.99 one.

You can tell the difference not only by the look of the substrate but also by the color and pic on the bag. The fine ground stuff like Eco Earth is the yellow bag with Brian holding the BTS. The fluffy airy stuff is the green bag with Brian holding the burm.

He didnt have the fine stuff when i ordered my stuff. It said coming soon but the Cat Spot litter company which is the phone number listed as the contact for the company did and it was $15.99.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

That is not the same stuff. That is the finer stuff. The medium grade stuff is the 20.99 one.

You can tell the difference not only by the look of the substrate but also by the color and pic on the bag. The fine ground stuff like Eco Earth is the yellow bag with Brian holding the BTS. The fluffy airy stuff is the green bag with Brian holding the burm.

He didnt have the fine stuff when i ordered my stuff. It said coming soon but the Cat Spot litter company which is the phone number listed as the contact for the company did and it was $15.99.

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Ah I did not realize that. Thanks Sauzo

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Originally Posted by ElliotNess

8 bucks for coco from the hydro store. All of these rebranded crap is just a waste. Reptile Prime is too expensive and will remain that way until its in all retail chains. Reptichip is cleaned up rebranded stuff. If you just have to have the best looking and cleanest coco chips than you want Hydro Farm Coco Croutons. Its literally the best chips on the market. I get them from the Hydro Store, in bags so no soaking and pricewise its cheaper than reptichip and reptile prime. Shop around people.

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If you are talking about that GrowIT stuff, there is a difference between that and ReptiChips. i have used both and the Reptichips is much more cleaned up. There isnt all the long coco fiber strands balled up and the pieces are more uniform in size. I personally dont mind spending a little more for a quality substrate. Like for example, i know people say you can buy the No Float cypress blend from Lowes and it works but i prefer the Zoo Med Forest Floor. Is it more, of course. Is it worth it to me. Yes.

The problem i see with the Reptile Prime other than Brian thinking everyone is an idiot and cant figure out for themselves about the price hike to cover a so called 'free shipping', is that the stuff isnt that great for large constrictors and for me, doesnt really hold humidity that well compared to cheaper stuff like Zoo Med cypress or ReptiChips. The stuff isnt bad, just doesnt work for me and my set ups. But again, the biggest gripe is the whole BS free shipping scam lol.

I say to each their own ;)

As long as its available, I will never use anything else. For many reasons, that have already been discussed ad nauseum.

However, everyone should use what works for them, nothing wrong with that, and good thing we have so many choices ;)

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I say to each their own ;)

As long as its available, I will never use anything else. For many reasons, that have already been discussed ad nauseum.

However, everyone should use what works for them, nothing wrong with that, and good thing we have so many choices ;)

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You need to send him a message asking why he lists it as 'free shipping' but bumped the price up by $5 per bag which is the exact price shipping used to be. Not really free shipping in that case. Sorry, that part kind of miffs me. If i was planning to use the stuff after I'm done with this bag, i would definitely ask him what's up with that lol.

But you're right, each to their own. I'll stick to destroying our earths natural cypress resources :P

If you don't like it because you are frugal, that's fine and you are under no obligation to use this but don't knock it just because you are cheap. I can't understand people that will spend thousands on pets then harp over a few bucks for supplies. They have a right to adjust prices to better simplify selling it. I see nothing wrong with it because it is still what you paid before just more upfront now. BTW there is no added tax at checkout so what you see is what you pay which is so much easier. I just ordered some new fine bedding and it was $15.99 out the door which is fine by me. The $20.99 for the original bedding is also fine because that is what you used to pay with shipping. There is no bait and switch here people.

And before you think anything, I have used every commercial reptile bedding there is and this is still the best and easiest to use. Zilla, prococo, and zoomed for example don't compare to this. That coco coir crud you get from a garden supply store or feed store, I hate it for anything other than my plants.

i just bought two bags. :) i'll let you guys know what i think in the other review thread!

The pricing schematics don't bother me.

Whenever you have a product/company that is not really mainstream yet, you cannot expect them to completely eat the cost of the shipping. It DOES cost them as well. They may not have the same shipping discounts that the huge companies that ship high volume.

As a product becomes more widely available, more options should come. Buying at stores, expos, volume shipping discounts. This is still relatively new on the market.

For ME and MY animals, nothing else has come even close. And like SDA I probably tried just about everything out there. This has made husbandry so much easier. This has eradicated any nasty smells or animals laying in their pee or waste. This makes cleaning and keeping my animals in a clean environment a snap.
I paid more upfront but actually, I'm using SO MUCH LESS that the price isn't a factor anymore. And I'm about the most OCD person there is when it comes to keeping the enclosures clean. I simply haven't had to change out an entire enclosure. There is just no need. Spot cleaning is easy and since the mess stays so contained in a small area, the animals don't lay in it, they don't drag it around through the clean areas. The smell is always nice now.

So no, price is not a problem for me, I used far more of all the other stubstrates and still couldn't keep the enclosures as spotless as now. Humidity control is a snap with a 1 gallon sprayer. Storage is easy. Product is ready to use out of the bag. Low dust. It simply works. I'm big on that, I want a product to perform! I'm willing to pay for that. I finally used up ONE bag. Since I bought 4 bags when it was $14 shipped on the amazon deal, I will have substrate forever (still have 3 bags from before then). That stuff simply lasts.

All that said (again and again, lol) I can see that for other people, for their setups, for their animals, for their pocket books, for their personal preference it may simply not work. There is a easy solution for that. Buy something else that does. :P Lots to choose from !!

I like to point out Reptile Prime to people that are looking for more/new options, because its a great one, but I sure won't push it on no one. I don't get a kickback, it makes no difference to me what others use or like.

But if I can help someone find something that may work for them as awesome as it does for me, well, that is what we are here for. To help, to give suggestions, etc ;)

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If you don't ...............I see nothing wrong with it because it is still what you paid before just more upfront now. BTW there is no added tax at checkout so what you see is what you pay which is so much easier. ....................
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I have no dog in this fight, but I have to chime in.

How is Brian being “upfront” with free shipping by not telling you about the exact same increase in price to cover the “free” shipping? In my book with over 20 years in retail/wholesale at all levels, he is clearly back dooring you, far from being “upfront”.

Some may consider this shady or unethical. Me? I think it would be better to advertise the product at $20.99 shipped and drop the “free shipping” claim. That way I can appreciate his change in the pricing structure. But to turn it into a marketing deception is just wrong.

Folks that consider this shady/unethical may not buy any snakes either. To me, his gambling snake sales as well.

I do agree with you that the no tax is pretty sweet!

That’s my view from the saddle and worth what you paid for it. :)

I do agree with the "fee shipping" BS.

That was unnecessary. I have no problem with the price. I have no problem with paying shipping.
I still hope that more options will become available in time, but until then, I pay the price and I pay shipping.

But not need to juggle words to make it sound better, it does leave a bad taste!! $20.99 shipped it should have been!!!

I have also said before, I kind of wish it was still Herptopia. While I have no business with Brian in one way or another and don't know him, I am afraid he will end up tanking this substrate business and I really would like to keep using this stuff.

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Originally Posted by Sauzo

You need to send him a message asking why he lists it as 'free shipping' but bumped the price up by $5 per bag which is the exact price shipping used to be. Not really free shipping in that case. Sorry, that part kind of miffs me. If i was planning to use the stuff after I'm done with this bag, i would definitely ask him what's up with that lol.

But you're right, each to their own. I'll stick to destroying our earths natural cypress resources :P

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Its because he worships the almighty dollar, lol. Nothing wrong with that, I really like the guy, but i hate when he says, “its not all about the money.” Over and over again, in like a ton of videos.
When it clearly IS all about the money for him,hes a big time business man.
MARK THAT COCO UP AND GIVE IT A COOL NAME WITH MY PHOTO ON IT.

Its all good. I love money too

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Its because he worships the almighty dollar, lol. Nothing wrong with that, I really like the guy, but i hate when he says, “its not all about the money.” Over and over again, in like a ton of videos.
When it clearly IS all about the money for him,hes a big time business man.
MARK THAT COCO UP AND GIVE IT A COOL NAME WITH MY PHOTO ON IT.

Its all good. I love money too

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I'm not a fan of him. Nor do I hate him.

Also have no problem with a business making money.

On top of that, the price has actually never changed. It has always been that price, even before Brian endorsed/sold it. It has always been $15.99 plus $5 shipping. Which makes it $20.99 shipped. I can live with that for what I get out of it.

I don't like the word juggling of calling it $20.99 with "FREE SHIPPING". Many businesses use these tactics, nothing new about it. Nothing really shady either, no scamming going on here, just word games. But I don't like it.

However, that in itself won't stop me from buying it, as it performs well for my animals.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

i just bought two bags. :) i'll let you guys know what i think in the other review thread!

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just got confirmation it's already on its way! dang!!! how long does it usually take to arrive?

It ships from Missouri so a few days to where you are. Midwest Organics has always been good about shipping.

Can you guys knock it off about the Brian hate. The bag stands on its own and is the same price as the stuff form Zilla and Zoomed so there is no reason to knock it because of the man on the bag even if he is an evil capitalistic swine :p

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Originally Posted by SDA

It ships from Missouri so a few days to where you are. Midwest Organics has always been good about shipping.

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thanks! when i saw the payment was to Midwest Organics i figured they couldn't be far. now i'm all excited!!!

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Can you guys knock it off about the Brian hate. The bag stands on its own and is the same price as the stuff form Zilla and Zoomed so there is no reason to knock it because of the man on the bag even if he is an evil capitalistic swine :p

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I assume most of you use loose bedding like this in cages such as an AP T8. I like loose bedding in tubs but find it messy in cages. I wish I liked it because I think the animals would prefer it over the kraft paper I currently use in my large cages but then I would have to worry about them ingesting it at feeding.

What do you all do at feeding time??

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Originally Posted by L.West

I assume most of you use loose bedding like this in cages such as an AP T8. I like loose bedding in tubs but find it messy in cages. I wish I liked it because I think the animals would prefer it over the kraft paper I currently use in my large cages but then I would have to worry about them ingesting it at feeding.

What do you all do at feeding time??

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I've fed on Aspen, I've fed on Repti Chip and I've fed on Reptile Prime.

The only problem I've ever had was one piece of Aspen and a piece of Repti Chip getting stuck in a mouth. They can usually work substrate out of their mouth, they do it in the wild. Even a bit swallowed poses no problem.

Its when it gets stuck, that creates a problem. Only happened twice in many years. I removed the pieces. The pieces were longer and thicker, sort of the shape of a big splinter. That is why I don't like chunky substrate or super fine (like coffee grounds) substrate. I really don't like splintery wood substrate.

If the substrate is soft and not chunky, if they ever do get some in their mouth, it won't be an issue. Most falls off while they work the rodent into their mouth.

I never place something on the substrate for them to eat off of. And the rodents are slightly wet. Still no problems.

No problems with either snake and I never put anything down either.

Maybe once my paper supply is gone I will switch my cages to the Reptile Prime. I currently use it in my racks and I like it.

My larger Boas make quite a large pee - does this stuff manage to contain a large amount of urine into a small spot??

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Originally Posted by L.West

Maybe once my paper supply is gone I will switch my cages to the Reptile Prime. I currently use it in my racks and I like it.

My larger Boas make quite a large pee - does this stuff manage to contain a large amount of urine into a small spot??

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That is quite relative.

A large amount of urine will make a larger spot. That said, it contains the urine far better then the other substrates. You will have to spot clean a larger area for a larger snake. To me that is still worth it, because I don't like my animals to lay on urine soaked paper or aspen, not to speak of the smell that permeates the whole room.

You could always just test it out in one cage.

I know of one person that mixes Reptile Prime with Repti Chip for the larger snakes. It dries out the wet Repti Chip quicker, plus it keeps the snake from moving the fluffier Reptile Prime around to much. It works better at containing messes then Repti Chip alone.

I mixed it for a while simply to use up my left over Repti Chip. I like the Reptile Prime by itself, better, but with larger snakes it may be an option? Just try different things in one cage before you commit totally ;)

since I currently use paper, I also keep a bowl of damp spaghum moss in their cages to keep humidity up. I may not need that any longer with the Reptile Prime. Your thoughts. Do you mist the cages.

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since I currently use paper, I also keep a bowl of damp spaghum moss in their cages to keep humidity up. I may not need that any longer with the Reptile Prime. Your thoughts. Do you mist the cages.

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The tubs, only if there is a shed cycle going on. Aside from that, they hold enough humidity.

My display cage I mist about once the week and that works great. I use one of those gallon/sprayer with the pump. Makes life so much easier.

How much you have to mist probably depends on the humidity in your house. If you have low humidity you will have to mist more often. However, with the right mist bottle, that isn't even an issue, imho.

I have three boa's. I always worry about either too low humidity or too high. I have been told that just as long as there is no condensation in the cage - the actual number reading on the humidity gauge doesn't really matter.

I try to stay at around 60% except while in shed.

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Originally Posted by Reinz

I have no dog in this fight, but I have to chime in.

How is Brian being “upfront” with free shipping by not telling you about the exact same increase in price to cover the “free” shipping? In my book with over 20 years in retail/wholesale at all levels, he is clearly back dooring you, far from being “upfront”.

Some may consider this shady or unethical. Me? I think it would be better to advertise the product at $20.99 shipped and drop the “free shipping” claim. That way I can appreciate his change in the pricing structure. But to turn it into a marketing deception is just wrong.

Folks that consider this shady/unethical may not buy any snakes either. To me, his gambling snake sales as well.

I do agree with you that the no tax is pretty sweet!

That’s my view from the saddle and worth what you paid for it. :)

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Someone who gets it!!! Thanks Reinz. I was not knocking the product. I was knocking the whole free shipping scam. I mean if he does something like this, what is to make me believe anything else he says.

As for no tax, that is pretty normal for me. Whenever i order something online as long as the company is outside Washington State, i dont pay tax.

And my view of the product still stands. It is decent for what it is. it does have flaws like any other product and i was pointing them out so people who have large constrictors like burms, retics, boas will know this stuff would not be good for them unless they want to have constantly bare cage floors and substrate piled up on the sides of the walls and corners.

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Originally Posted by Godzilla78

Its because he worships the almighty dollar, lol. Nothing wrong with that, I really like the guy, but i hate when he says, “its not all about the money.” Over and over again, in like a ton of videos.
When it clearly IS all about the money for him,hes a big time business man.
MARK THAT COCO UP AND GIVE IT A COOL NAME WITH MY PHOTO ON IT.

Its all good. I love money too

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Not blaming the guy for wanting cash. We all love cash and it makes the world go round. But like i said before, the throwing out free shipping when he just hid the shipping in a newer higher priced product is flat out deceptive. It would be like me buy a certain type of BP and then getting a different one even though their values are the same without being told. I mean not really but i hope you get my point. And i mean i dont really care personally as i dont plan on using the product but i am the kind of guy who doesnt like to see the BS. If i tell you something, that is what it is. I am not going to try and deceive you or sleight of hand you and i personally dont like those tactics or kind of people.

But anyways, it is what it is. Wont affect me either way as i dont buy from BHB anyways.

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just got confirmation it's already on its way! dang!!! how long does it usually take to arrive?

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Too 1 week to get a bag to Washington State. That $5 shipping gets you the slow boat to China shipping lol. Ordered that and my Zoo med Forest Floor from Chewy.com and got my cypress in 2 days.

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I assume most of you use loose bedding like this in cages such as an AP T8. I like loose bedding in tubs but find it messy in cages. I wish I liked it because I think the animals would prefer it over the kraft paper I currently use in my large cages but then I would have to worry about them ingesting it at feeding.

What do you all do at feeding time??

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I personally use either ReptiChips or aspen or now my new stuff is Zoo Med Forest Floor cypress.

When i feed the snakes, i just put down a piece of cardboard and feed them over it. They do still manage to drag it off sometimes. When that happens, i just watch them and pick off big pieces of substrate as they are swallowing.

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since I currently use paper, I also keep a bowl of damp spaghum moss in their cages to keep humidity up. I may not need that any longer with the Reptile Prime. Your thoughts. Do you mist the cages.

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I will tell you right now, Reptile Prime doesnt keep humidity as well as something bigger like cypress or Reptichips. I can tell this easily in my GTP cage. I have to mist the substrate a lot more. It does hold and release a lot of liquid but it releases it too fast so the stuff dries out pretty quick.

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Originally Posted by L.West

I have three boa's. I always worry about either too low humidity or too high. I have been told that just as long as there is no condensation in the cage - the actual number reading on the humidity gauge doesn't really matter.

I try to stay at around 60% except while in shed.

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60% is the minimum i would do for a boa or retic. I keep all my boas and retic at 75-85% humidity. You can tell when they are nice and well hydrated. If you feel my retics skin, i swear it is as soft as silk. Feels like you could almost push your finger through it. Same with the boas. They are very soft and supple but not as silky feeling as the retic. And even my BP who keep around the same is soft as butter. When i kept her at 60-65%, he skin was kind of rough and not so elastic if that makes sense.

You dont want condensation dripping off the roof or running down the ceiling though and you dont want a wet cage floor. There is a big difference between relative air humidity and a flat out wet sopping mess of a cage floor lol.

And there is nothing wrong with indented kraft paper. I know a few BCC breeders who swear by that stuff. I also know a few who swear by aspen.

I've used it since I saw his vlog on how it's made because I couldn't stand the cypress mulch and didn't want the hassle of soaking a block of bedding before I could use it.

LOVE the product for, as Zina said, reasons that have been discussed ad nauseam; Easy spot cleaning, Odor control, Burrowing, Holds humidity (50-95% depending on the snake) in my T10's very well without regular misting (I live in Western NY and do not have a humidifier in my house), Storage (resealable bag), VERY low dust, It's a renewable resource, and when I do clean out my enclosure I can just dump it in the back yard and it keeps the critters away from my garden (odor of snake I guess).

I agree, bumping the price and saying "free shipping" is a misleading business tactic used by many, but they need to cover costs and make money. More importantly, the price didn't change when his face went on the bag, nor did the shipping cost. I'll write Brian (yes, I've communicated with him through his personal e-mail) and mention the "$20.99 shipped" suggestion. I've been brutally honest with him in the past (his shenanigans with some of these youtube sensationalists) and he's been receptive. He was also very generous when I had a question about the Reptile Prime.

Most importantly.....if it works for you, use it - If it doesn't, don't. But if you disagree with who he is or how he keeps his animals, keep the focus on that and not the product line - and that's for a different forum altogether. Just my :2cent:

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It's literally a few handfuls (maybe $0.10 worth) of agricultural waste product repackaged and sold for $21 by a guy with a 7 figure annual income. I am envious.

Ron!! How could you not like cypress. I never used it before simply because of the price but since Chewy.com has it for so cheap, i decided to try it and i love the stuff for the boas, bp and dumerils. After a couple weeks of it with Caesar, i will say it is the best stuff i have tried for him but it still doesnt kill the smell. But then neither does any other substrate. I am starting to think retics are just a messy, musky smelling snake by nature lol.

And i might eat my words a little. I caught Pat down on the floor tonight digging around in the Reptile Prime and he looked like he was having the time of his life so maybe i will stick to it with just him as he is small and the biggest cage i would use for him would be a 36Lx24Dx24H so it would be a little more cost effective.

But i agree, use what works for you. It's like the RHP and heat tape arguments i see so much lol.

posted my review so far in this prior thread: https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ison&p=2609979
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It's literally a few handfuls (maybe $0.10 worth) of agricultural waste product repackaged and sold for $21 by a guy with a 7 figure annual income. I am envious.

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if you can source it and sell it to us for less (don't need fancy marketing bags) then you'll get some customers :P

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Ron!! How could you not like cypress. I never used it before simply because of the price but since Chewy.com has it for so cheap, i decided to try it and i love the stuff for the boas, bp and dumerils. After a couple weeks of it with Caesar, i will say it is the best stuff i have tried for him but it still doesnt kill the smell. But then neither does any other substrate. I am starting to think retics are just a messy, musky smelling snake by nature lol.

And i might eat my words a little. I caught Pat down on the floor tonight digging around in the Reptile Prime and he looked like he was having the time of his life so maybe i will stick to it with just him as he is small and the biggest cage i would use for him would be a 36Lx24Dx24H so it would be a little more cost effective.

But i agree, use what works for you. It's like the RHP and heat tape arguments i see so much lol.

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LOL - I thought the cypress had too many large pieces and my snakes NEVER burrowed in it. The day I got the Reptile Prime they were digging/hiding/exploring and as you said, seemed to really enjoy it.

They also LOVE the RHP's. BUUHAHAHAHA

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LOL - I thought the cypress had too many large pieces and my snakes NEVER burrowed in it. The day I got the Reptile Prime they were digging/hiding/exploring and as you said, seemed to really enjoy it.

They also LOVE the RHP's. BUUHAHAHAHA

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Have you been able to talk to Brian and ask about this rather unsavory business scheme of calling it 20.99 incl. free shipping?

I almost feel they did this for 2 reasons. Nr. 1 ..it sounds good. Nr. 2 ..it takes the possibility of "combined shipping discount" of the table. Back when it was Herptopia they assured me that a combined shipping discount was absolutely in the works. However, with the shipping incorporated into each individuals bags price, that is pretty much off the table.

I would love to hear back from what he says to you about it. I posted on his Facebook, but..no reply.

All this is not going to stop me from using it, that is for sure. I paid the same back when it was Herptopia, and as a matter of fact, I got a few bags for $14 shipped on Amazon, back when that deal was going on. That stuff is awesome, I see how the company goes about preparing it for animal use and its a bit more involved then shoving waste into bags. Certainly not less worthy then all the other substrates that are re-labeled and packaged for animal substrate use. But irregardless of all that, I would like to hear why Brian went to such a rather "slimey" marketing practice with this product, esp. since he wants his image to be this open, honest, no BS guy. I know there is nothing against the law against this advertising scheme, lots of businesses use it, actually almost all that offer free shipping do, but still...

You guys seem to think this is Brian's business since his pic is on the bag. The same company owns it as before. Brian is just the face onthe bag. He goes to some of their meetings. This all started by him testing the product and they reached out to him to use in some of his cages. I highly doubt he came up with the shipping scenario. That's usually the marketing dept. I'm really tired of people blaming Brian for everything. But that's for another thread.

These comments are crazy. I think I am going to run my hands through a bag of reptile prime and laugh maniacally just because I can.

Oh and my BP started burrowing for the first time after switching to this over cypress so that sold me to stop using cypress for terrestrial snakes even though from what I read on this forum, ball pythons are secretly arboreal :P

Eco earth all the way!!! No people pics on the bag! Lol
No shipping, i just pick it up at the local pet store.

Reptile prime fines came in today. Did not expect the shipment until Monday so that was a pleasant surprise. Haven't taken a look at them yet but from feeling the bag they are definitely finer than the original.