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Clutch #1 2018

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  • 04-01-2018, 08:07 AM
    rlditmars
    Clutch #1 2018
    The first clutch is out. The pairing was a 0.1 Pastel Mojave X 1.0 Leopard Pinstripe. She laid 9 eggs that all went to term. I only ended up with 2 single gene animals and no duplications. I'm very happy with the results other than I think I hit a four gene animal and it is rather "Meh" looking. Powerful but not terribly beautiful. This is why I tend to be in the camp of "Less is More" when it comes to creating beauty with ball pythons. Sometimes more genes just muddies the canvas. It's like paint. All of the colors are beautiful alone. However, when you mix them together you get brown. I haven't sexed anything but will once they shed.

    Experts! Feel free to chime in on some of the Pinstripe combos as this is my first clutch with Pin. I am wise enough to know I may be wrong with some of my identifications. I've added side shots of three of the pin combos in case it helps and if you think Leopard may be present where I haven't called it.

    Here are all of the animals in order of appearance.

    Leopard Mojave
    https://s19.postimg.org/6qzl62s5v/20...1_06.48.15.jpg

    Leopard Pinstripe
    https://s19.postimg.org/isuz08943/20...1_07.13.26.jpg

    Leopard Pastel Mojave
    https://s19.postimg.org/ancx21xpv/20...1_06.53.57.jpg

    Leopard Pastel Pinstripe?
    https://s19.postimg.org/goalz4cmb/20...1_07.01.48.jpg
    https://s19.postimg.org/wzapvhmk3/20180401_063453.jpg

    Leopard Pastel Mojave Pinstripe
    https://s19.postimg.org/98bcdd6xf/20...1_07.14.46.jpg

    Mojave
    https://s19.postimg.org/49ntysdeb/20...1_06.56.32.jpg

    Pastel
    https://s19.postimg.org/sq5zt96f7/20...1_06.57.20.jpg

    Jigsaw
    https://s19.postimg.org/y1kwe0i83/20...1_07.17.18.jpg
    https://s19.postimg.org/fm0fgmjj7/20180401_063437.jpg

    Pastel Mojave Pinstripe?
    https://s19.postimg.org/dhg2fi7lv/20...1_07.12.09.jpg
    https://s19.postimg.org/d4oo9df2b/20180401_063545.jpg
  • 04-01-2018, 08:10 AM
    Potatoren
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    That leopard pastave though omg

    Edit; i also really like the leo pastave pin as well, the lack of pinstriping is amazing

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  • 04-01-2018, 08:24 AM
    Craiga 01453
    I'm no help with morph ID, so just stopping by to say congrats on a succesful first clutch of 2018. :gj:
  • 04-01-2018, 08:25 AM
    StillBP
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Good looking clutch. Wish I had the wait if hatching eggs. I'm still waiting for them to drop lol.
    Is the jigsaw 1.0 or 0.1
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  • 04-01-2018, 08:37 AM
    Hannahshissyfix
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Congrats!! I dont think that one is bad looking but generally agree less is usually more.

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  • 04-01-2018, 08:43 AM
    StillBP
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Yeah I agree on the less is more I like a nice two or three gene animal. Even a single gene over a five or six gene as they tend to muddy up.

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  • 04-01-2018, 09:47 AM
    KFG_Reptiles
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Congratulations! I'm no expert but that's a beautiful baby balls you got there.

    Especially that Leopard Pastel Pinstripe and that deep black on the LeoMojo. V nice contrast.

    Quite surprised at the 4-gene combo, it's beautiful in its own right but lacking that 'omph' factor. Nevertheless, it's a classy golden look.
    Totally agree in this case that LESS is MORE :D

    More clutches coming??
  • 04-01-2018, 10:52 AM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Those are some great odds for your first clutch of the year, congrats :gj:

    And yes you are correct with your ID
  • 04-01-2018, 01:31 PM
    Phillydubs
    Wow!! Stunning animals. Really nice clutch all so different !!
  • 04-01-2018, 07:44 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Potatoren View Post
    That leopard pastave though omg

    Edit; i also really like the leo pastave pin as well, the lack of pinstriping is amazing

    Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

    Thank you. I think the Leo Pastave is my favorite so far but we'll see after they shed.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by craigafrechette View Post
    I'm no help with morph ID, so just stopping by to say congrats on a succesful first clutch of 2018. :gj:

    Thanks Craig

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by StillBP View Post
    Good looking clutch. Wish I had the wait if hatching eggs. I'm still waiting for them to drop lol.
    Is the jigsaw 1.0 or 0.1
    Sent from my XT1635-01 using Tapatalk

    Thanks. Hang in there, they'll come soon enough. I don't know the sex of the Jigsaw yet. I usually wait until after they shed.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hannahshissyfix View Post
    Congrats!! I dont think that one is bad looking but generally agree less is usually more.

    Sent from my SM-G920T using Tapatalk

    Thank you. It's not that it's bad looking, but there isn't as much WOW factor as I had hoped for a 4 gene animal.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KFG_Reptiles View Post
    Congratulations! I'm no expert but that's a beautiful baby balls you got there.

    Especially that Leopard Pastel Pinstripe and that deep black on the LeoMojo. V nice contrast.

    Quite surprised at the 4-gene combo, it's beautiful in its own right but lacking that 'omph' factor. Nevertheless, it's a classy golden look.
    Totally agree in this case that LESS is MORE :D

    More clutches coming??

    Thank you. Maybe after it sheds it will have a little more color. I have another clutch that should drop in the next 3 weeks or so. It's a Vanilla to Pied Ghost so the babies won't look exciting at all. They'll just look like Vanillas or Normals.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Those are some great odds for your first clutch of the year, congrats :gj:

    And yes you are correct with your ID

    Thanks Deborah. I thought I did pretty well too. I appreciate you confirming my ID's.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Phillydubs View Post
    Wow!! Stunning animals. Really nice clutch all so different !!

    Thank you. it's amazing the number of combos that are possible with just 2 two gene animals.
  • 04-01-2018, 07:50 PM
    Crowfingers
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    those are some nice looking little ones! I love Leopard pins, and anything with mojave as well
  • 04-01-2018, 07:57 PM
    Godzilla78
    What a great clutch! They all look really great! Makes me consider leopard gene more. The leopard mojaves are my fave among them.
  • 04-01-2018, 08:29 PM
    cchardwick
    I'd hold back that four gene combo as a breeder, maybe pick up another two gene animal or if it's a male cross it with the Pastel Mojave. You would get super pastels and BEL Super Mojaves and probably zero single gene animals with six genes in the mix.
  • 04-01-2018, 08:46 PM
    zina10
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    I think that is one amazing clutch! I love the variety!! Leopard and Pinstripe are awesome genes to work with. Congratulations on those beautiful babies [emoji5]


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  • 04-01-2018, 09:15 PM
    Sunnieskys
    Will the leopard Mojave stay that dark? Stunning!
  • 04-01-2018, 09:59 PM
    Sonny1318
    Wow that’s one sweet clutch, thanks for sharing. Nice.
  • 04-01-2018, 11:11 PM
    Reinz
    Congrats on your great clutch! You have some real stunners there. I LOVE that Leopard Mojave! Congrats again.
  • 04-01-2018, 11:42 PM
    Ashley96
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    That leopard mojave is beautiful but I like them all! Congrats!


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  • 04-02-2018, 12:37 AM
    Alter-Echo
    Geeze, you've got yourself a grand slam there, amazing!
  • 04-02-2018, 11:45 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crowfingers View Post
    those are some nice looking little ones! I love Leopard pins, and anything with mojave as well

    Thank you. I never really cared for Pins until I saw the Leopard Pin that sired this clutch.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Godzilla78 View Post
    What a great clutch! They all look really great! Makes me consider leopard gene more. The leopard mojaves are my fave among them.

    Thanks. Leopard really manipulates the pattern. Hope you decide to add some to your collection.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cchardwick View Post
    I'd hold back that four gene combo as a breeder, maybe pick up another two gene animal or if it's a male cross it with the Pastel Mojave. You would get super pastels and BEL Super Mojaves and probably zero single gene animals with six genes in the mix.

    The only issue with BELs from multi gene animals is it gets difficult to know what else is present. I'm not comfortable with not knowing what I am putting out there.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    I think that is one amazing clutch! I love the variety!! Leopard and Pinstripe are awesome genes to work with. Congratulations on those beautiful babies [emoji5]

    Thanks Z. It's like a box of chocolates. You never know what your gonna get. Leopard can make simple base genes look special.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    Will the leopard Mojave stay that dark? Stunning!

    Honestly Sunnie, I am wondering that myself. These are darker than I was expecting but this is my first clutch with Mojave so who knows. Stay tuned.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sonny1318 View Post
    Wow that’s one sweet clutch, thanks for sharing. Nice.

    Thank you for looking and commenting.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reinz View Post
    Congrats on your great clutch! You have some real stunners there. I LOVE that Leopard Mojave! Congrats again.

    Thanks Reinz. I can't wait until they shed so I can see what I really have.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ashley96 View Post
    That leopard mojave is beautiful but I like them all! Congrats!

    Thank you. It's hard to pick just one as a favorite since they are so different.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alter-Echo View Post
    Geeze, you've got yourself a grand slam there, amazing!

    Thank you. I am really pleased with the results.
  • 04-03-2018, 07:26 AM
    Reptilius
    And The Winner Is .......... Leopard Mojave.

    Congrats, you simply have to love it when the odds go your way.
  • 04-03-2018, 08:03 AM
    ceh23
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    And The Winner Is .......... Leopard Mojave.

    Congrats, you simply have to love it when the odds go your way.

    I’m loving the Leopard Mojave. Very nice!



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  • 04-03-2018, 06:31 PM
    Ax01
    whatta variety and amazing quality to boot!! congrats!

    i look forward to seeing post-shed pix and progression pix of that Leo Pastel Mojo Pin. it almost looks like there's bands (ringers?) when the skin tone is lighter than darker. really cool stuff!
  • 04-04-2018, 09:11 PM
    Alexiel03
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    That leopard pastel mojave is stunning!

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  • 04-10-2018, 09:42 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    They have all finished shedding. I have given them a preliminary check for gender but I always double and triple check along the way. Here are some fresh pictures post shed. I have changed the ID of a couple. I now believe the Mojave Pinstripe also as Leopard. I also have changed what I thought was a Mojave Pastel Pinstripe to just Pastel Pinstripe. I am still scratching my head on the 4 gene animal and have started a separate thread about it. Thanks for looking.

    0.1 Leopard Mojave
    https://s19.postimg.org/4dsb3ytsz/20...04_resized.jpg

    0.1 Leopard Pinstripe
    https://s19.postimg.org/tjt9at2sz/20...42_resized.jpg

    0.1 Leopard Pastel Mojave
    https://s19.postimg.org/5g2hmizrn/20...25_resized.jpg

    0.1 Leopard Pastel Pinstripe
    https://s19.postimg.org/shj2s8wub/20...32_resized.jpg

    0.1 Leopard Pastel Mojave Pinstripe
    https://s19.postimg.org/3o9irlljn/20...06_resized.jpg

    1.0 Mojave
    https://s19.postimg.org/hup9mv6pf/20...12_resized.jpg

    0.1 Pastel
    https://s19.postimg.org/hup9mujk3/20...10_resized.jpg

    1.0 Leopard Mojave Pinstripe
    https://s19.postimg.org/w150i39ur/20...32_resized.jpg

    1.0 Pastel Pinstripe
    https://s19.postimg.org/hoc12xwg3/20...57_resized.jpg
  • 04-10-2018, 09:55 PM
    Sunnieskys
    Holy crap! I want that first one soooooooo bad! So so beautiful and bold!
  • 04-11-2018, 02:59 PM
    rufretic
    Very nice clutch, I’m really liking the leopard mojave and leopard mojave pastel. All are beautiful though, congrats!
  • 04-11-2018, 08:28 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Reptilius View Post
    And The Winner Is .......... Leopard Mojave.

    Congrats, you simply have to love it when the odds go your way.

    Thanks. I think she's pretty nice too.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ceh23 View Post
    I’m loving the Leopard Mojave. Very nice!

    A lot of others seem to share your sentiment. Thank you

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    whatta variety and amazing quality to boot!! congrats!
    i look forward to seeing post-shed pix and progression pix of that Leo Pastel Mojo Pin. it almost looks like there's bands (ringers?) when the skin tone is lighter than darker. really cool stuff!

    Thanks Ax. This was a pretty fun clutch to watch come out with all the different combos. The ringers are still there post shed. It almost looks like someone put tape around her and then shot another layer of paint.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexiel03 View Post
    That leopard pastel mojave is stunning!

    Thank you. She is probably going to be my hold back.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    Holy crap! I want that first one soooooooo bad! So so beautiful and bold!

    Thanks Sunnie. Even post shed she is really dark. Leopard seems to be a darkening gene. This girl almost looks like dark chocolate.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rufretic View Post
    Very nice clutch, I’m really liking the leopard mojave and leopard mojave pastel. All are beautiful though, congrats!

    Thanks Ruf. I really like what Leopard does with Mojave and Lesser/Butter.
  • 04-13-2018, 04:01 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Once these have taken a few meals some will be moving on so I thought I'd get a group shot in natural light. It's really hard to get 9 snakes in good positions to take a picture and I got tagged twice trying to get this one. Little boogers are feisty.

    https://s19.postimg.cc/ptffh5nlf/201..._resized_1.jpg

    Here is one more of the 4 gene animal in natural light. You can really see the bands in this shot.

    https://s19.postimg.cc/ptffh585v/201..._resized_1.jpg
  • 04-13-2018, 04:08 PM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    That one hell of a great looking clutch,congratulations
    brilliant striping


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  • 04-13-2018, 05:21 PM
    Godzilla78
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    Once these have taken a few meals some will be moving on so I thought I'd get a group shot in natural light. It's really hard to get 9 snakes in good positions to take a picture and I got tagged twice trying to get this one. Little boogers are feisty.

    https://s19.postimg.cc/ptffh5nlf/201..._resized_1.jpg

    Here is one more of the 4 gene animal in natural light. You can really see the bands in this shot.

    https://s19.postimg.cc/ptffh585v/201..._resized_1.jpg

    Fantastic
  • 04-22-2018, 03:46 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    This guy is really turning yellow except for the head. It is getting curiouser and curiouser.

    https://s19.postimg.cc/4a6uuays3/201...15_resized.jpg
  • 04-22-2018, 10:08 PM
    Sonny1318
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Wow that’s a beautiful clutch!


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  • 05-09-2018, 09:16 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    I thought I would show the two I plan to hold back from clutch #1. They are both female so it will be a while before I can work with them. Still, I am very excited to grow them up a bit.

    https://s19.postimg.cc/gdorn580j/201...25_resized.jpg
  • 05-12-2018, 01:42 PM
    rufretic
    Couple of beauties!
  • 05-12-2018, 01:51 PM
    C.Marie
    Oh my so adorable, my son flip out if he saw the leopard Mojave he loves the dark morphs, great clutch of babes big congratulations you must be so proud :gj:
  • 05-12-2018, 01:55 PM
    Joelgriz8124
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    I can’t see the pictures I’m so mad


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  • 05-13-2018, 06:52 AM
    rlditmars
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richardhind1972 View Post
    That one hell of a great looking clutch,congratulations
    brilliant striping.

    Thanks. It's one of my favorite clutches produced.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Godzilla78 View Post
    Fantastic

    Thank you God. I mean Godzilla. I guess I can't abbreviate your name. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sonny1318 View Post
    Wow that’s a beautiful clutch!

    Thanks Sonny.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rufretic View Post
    Couple of beauties!

    Thanks Ruf.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C.Marie View Post
    Oh my so adorable, my son flip out if he saw the leopard Mojave he loves the dark morphs, great clutch of babes big congratulations you must be so proud :gj:

    Thank you C.Marie. Here is a recent pic. She's staying pretty dark still.

    https://s19.postimg.cc/nekkkxes3/201...08_resized.jpg

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joelgriz8124 View Post
    I can’t see the pictures I’m so mad.

    Joel, Sorry about that. I'm not sure why. Perhaps try looking on a different device.


    I'll throw some updated pictures on here soon. I took some side shots that really show off the patterns. The Leopard Mojave pic above is one of them. Stay tuned.
  • 05-13-2018, 10:23 AM
    Joelgriz8124
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    I went online rather than the Tapatalk app and I got to see them ! Strong work , all beautiful !


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  • 05-13-2018, 02:07 PM
    C.Marie
    Wow really holding the color nicely and love that pattern and gorgeous yellow/gold down the tail:bow:
  • 05-13-2018, 09:34 PM
    Ladybugzcrunch
    Re: Clutch #1 2018
    Would have been my choice also. Great clutch.
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