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Clutch #1 2018
The first clutch is out. The pairing was a 0.1 Pastel Mojave X 1.0 Leopard Pinstripe. She laid 9 eggs that all went to term. I only ended up with 2 single gene animals and no duplications. I'm very happy with the results other than I think I hit a four gene animal and it is rather "Meh" looking. Powerful but not terribly beautiful. This is why I tend to be in the camp of "Less is More" when it comes to creating beauty with ball pythons. Sometimes more genes just muddies the canvas. It's like paint. All of the colors are beautiful alone. However, when you mix them together you get brown. I haven't sexed anything but will once they shed.
Experts! Feel free to chime in on some of the Pinstripe combos as this is my first clutch with Pin. I am wise enough to know I may be wrong with some of my identifications. I've added side shots of three of the pin combos in case it helps and if you think Leopard may be present where I haven't called it.
Here are all of the animals in order of appearance.
Leopard Mojave
https://s19.postimg.org/6qzl62s5v/20...1_06.48.15.jpg
Leopard Pinstripe
https://s19.postimg.org/isuz08943/20...1_07.13.26.jpg
Leopard Pastel Mojave
https://s19.postimg.org/ancx21xpv/20...1_06.53.57.jpg
Leopard Pastel Pinstripe?
https://s19.postimg.org/goalz4cmb/20...1_07.01.48.jpg
https://s19.postimg.org/wzapvhmk3/20180401_063453.jpg
Leopard Pastel Mojave Pinstripe
https://s19.postimg.org/98bcdd6xf/20...1_07.14.46.jpg
Mojave
https://s19.postimg.org/49ntysdeb/20...1_06.56.32.jpg
Pastel
https://s19.postimg.org/sq5zt96f7/20...1_06.57.20.jpg
Jigsaw
https://s19.postimg.org/y1kwe0i83/20...1_07.17.18.jpg
https://s19.postimg.org/fm0fgmjj7/20180401_063437.jpg
Pastel Mojave Pinstripe?
https://s19.postimg.org/dhg2fi7lv/20...1_07.12.09.jpg
https://s19.postimg.org/d4oo9df2b/20180401_063545.jpg
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Re: Clutch #1 2018
That leopard pastave though omg
Edit; i also really like the leo pastave pin as well, the lack of pinstriping is amazing
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I'm no help with morph ID, so just stopping by to say congrats on a succesful first clutch of 2018. :gj:
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Good looking clutch. Wish I had the wait if hatching eggs. I'm still waiting for them to drop lol.
Is the jigsaw 1.0 or 0.1
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Congrats!! I dont think that one is bad looking but generally agree less is usually more.
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Yeah I agree on the less is more I like a nice two or three gene animal. Even a single gene over a five or six gene as they tend to muddy up.
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Congratulations! I'm no expert but that's a beautiful baby balls you got there.
Especially that Leopard Pastel Pinstripe and that deep black on the LeoMojo. V nice contrast.
Quite surprised at the 4-gene combo, it's beautiful in its own right but lacking that 'omph' factor. Nevertheless, it's a classy golden look.
Totally agree in this case that LESS is MORE :D
More clutches coming??
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Those are some great odds for your first clutch of the year, congrats :gj:
And yes you are correct with your ID
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Wow!! Stunning animals. Really nice clutch all so different !!
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Originally Posted by Potatoren
That leopard pastave though omg
Edit; i also really like the leo pastave pin as well, the lack of pinstriping is amazing
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Thank you. I think the Leo Pastave is my favorite so far but we'll see after they shed.
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Originally Posted by craigafrechette
I'm no help with morph ID, so just stopping by to say congrats on a succesful first clutch of 2018. :gj:
Thanks Craig
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Originally Posted by StillBP
Good looking clutch. Wish I had the wait if hatching eggs. I'm still waiting for them to drop lol.
Is the jigsaw 1.0 or 0.1
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Thanks. Hang in there, they'll come soon enough. I don't know the sex of the Jigsaw yet. I usually wait until after they shed.
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Originally Posted by Hannahshissyfix
Congrats!! I dont think that one is bad looking but generally agree less is usually more.
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Thank you. It's not that it's bad looking, but there isn't as much WOW factor as I had hoped for a 4 gene animal.
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Originally Posted by KFG_Reptiles
Congratulations! I'm no expert but that's a beautiful baby balls you got there.
Especially that Leopard Pastel Pinstripe and that deep black on the LeoMojo. V nice contrast.
Quite surprised at the 4-gene combo, it's beautiful in its own right but lacking that 'omph' factor. Nevertheless, it's a classy golden look.
Totally agree in this case that LESS is MORE :D
More clutches coming??
Thank you. Maybe after it sheds it will have a little more color. I have another clutch that should drop in the next 3 weeks or so. It's a Vanilla to Pied Ghost so the babies won't look exciting at all. They'll just look like Vanillas or Normals.
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Originally Posted by Deborah
Those are some great odds for your first clutch of the year, congrats :gj:
And yes you are correct with your ID
Thanks Deborah. I thought I did pretty well too. I appreciate you confirming my ID's.
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Originally Posted by Phillydubs
Wow!! Stunning animals. Really nice clutch all so different !!
Thank you. it's amazing the number of combos that are possible with just 2 two gene animals.
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those are some nice looking little ones! I love Leopard pins, and anything with mojave as well
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What a great clutch! They all look really great! Makes me consider leopard gene more. The leopard mojaves are my fave among them.
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I'd hold back that four gene combo as a breeder, maybe pick up another two gene animal or if it's a male cross it with the Pastel Mojave. You would get super pastels and BEL Super Mojaves and probably zero single gene animals with six genes in the mix.
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I think that is one amazing clutch! I love the variety!! Leopard and Pinstripe are awesome genes to work with. Congratulations on those beautiful babies [emoji5]
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Will the leopard Mojave stay that dark? Stunning!
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Wow that’s one sweet clutch, thanks for sharing. Nice.
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Congrats on your great clutch! You have some real stunners there. I LOVE that Leopard Mojave! Congrats again.
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That leopard mojave is beautiful but I like them all! Congrats!
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Geeze, you've got yourself a grand slam there, amazing!
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Originally Posted by Crowfingers
those are some nice looking little ones! I love Leopard pins, and anything with mojave as well
Thank you. I never really cared for Pins until I saw the Leopard Pin that sired this clutch.
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Originally Posted by Godzilla78
What a great clutch! They all look really great! Makes me consider leopard gene more. The leopard mojaves are my fave among them.
Thanks. Leopard really manipulates the pattern. Hope you decide to add some to your collection.
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Originally Posted by cchardwick
I'd hold back that four gene combo as a breeder, maybe pick up another two gene animal or if it's a male cross it with the Pastel Mojave. You would get super pastels and BEL Super Mojaves and probably zero single gene animals with six genes in the mix.
The only issue with BELs from multi gene animals is it gets difficult to know what else is present. I'm not comfortable with not knowing what I am putting out there.
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Originally Posted by zina10
I think that is one amazing clutch! I love the variety!! Leopard and Pinstripe are awesome genes to work with. Congratulations on those beautiful babies [emoji5]
Thanks Z. It's like a box of chocolates. You never know what your gonna get. Leopard can make simple base genes look special.
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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys
Will the leopard Mojave stay that dark? Stunning!
Honestly Sunnie, I am wondering that myself. These are darker than I was expecting but this is my first clutch with Mojave so who knows. Stay tuned.
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Originally Posted by Sonny1318
Wow that’s one sweet clutch, thanks for sharing. Nice.
Thank you for looking and commenting.
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Originally Posted by Reinz
Congrats on your great clutch! You have some real stunners there. I LOVE that Leopard Mojave! Congrats again.
Thanks Reinz. I can't wait until they shed so I can see what I really have.
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Originally Posted by Ashley96
That leopard mojave is beautiful but I like them all! Congrats!
Thank you. It's hard to pick just one as a favorite since they are so different.
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Originally Posted by Alter-Echo
Geeze, you've got yourself a grand slam there, amazing!
Thank you. I am really pleased with the results.
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And The Winner Is .......... Leopard Mojave.
Congrats, you simply have to love it when the odds go your way.
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Originally Posted by Reptilius
And The Winner Is .......... Leopard Mojave.
Congrats, you simply have to love it when the odds go your way.
I’m loving the Leopard Mojave. Very nice!
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whatta variety and amazing quality to boot!! congrats!
i look forward to seeing post-shed pix and progression pix of that Leo Pastel Mojo Pin. it almost looks like there's bands (ringers?) when the skin tone is lighter than darker. really cool stuff!
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That leopard pastel mojave is stunning!
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They have all finished shedding. I have given them a preliminary check for gender but I always double and triple check along the way. Here are some fresh pictures post shed. I have changed the ID of a couple. I now believe the Mojave Pinstripe also as Leopard. I also have changed what I thought was a Mojave Pastel Pinstripe to just Pastel Pinstripe. I am still scratching my head on the 4 gene animal and have started a separate thread about it. Thanks for looking.
0.1 Leopard Mojave
https://s19.postimg.org/4dsb3ytsz/20...04_resized.jpg
0.1 Leopard Pinstripe
https://s19.postimg.org/tjt9at2sz/20...42_resized.jpg
0.1 Leopard Pastel Mojave
https://s19.postimg.org/5g2hmizrn/20...25_resized.jpg
0.1 Leopard Pastel Pinstripe
https://s19.postimg.org/shj2s8wub/20...32_resized.jpg
0.1 Leopard Pastel Mojave Pinstripe
https://s19.postimg.org/3o9irlljn/20...06_resized.jpg
1.0 Mojave
https://s19.postimg.org/hup9mv6pf/20...12_resized.jpg
0.1 Pastel
https://s19.postimg.org/hup9mujk3/20...10_resized.jpg
1.0 Leopard Mojave Pinstripe
https://s19.postimg.org/w150i39ur/20...32_resized.jpg
1.0 Pastel Pinstripe
https://s19.postimg.org/hoc12xwg3/20...57_resized.jpg
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Holy crap! I want that first one soooooooo bad! So so beautiful and bold!
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Very nice clutch, I’m really liking the leopard mojave and leopard mojave pastel. All are beautiful though, congrats!
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Originally Posted by Reptilius
And The Winner Is .......... Leopard Mojave.
Congrats, you simply have to love it when the odds go your way.
Thanks. I think she's pretty nice too.
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Originally Posted by ceh23
I’m loving the Leopard Mojave. Very nice!
A lot of others seem to share your sentiment. Thank you
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Originally Posted by Ax01
whatta variety and amazing quality to boot!! congrats!
i look forward to seeing post-shed pix and progression pix of that Leo Pastel Mojo Pin. it almost looks like there's bands (ringers?) when the skin tone is lighter than darker. really cool stuff!
Thanks Ax. This was a pretty fun clutch to watch come out with all the different combos. The ringers are still there post shed. It almost looks like someone put tape around her and then shot another layer of paint.
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Originally Posted by Alexiel03
That leopard pastel mojave is stunning!
Thank you. She is probably going to be my hold back.
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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys
Holy crap! I want that first one soooooooo bad! So so beautiful and bold!
Thanks Sunnie. Even post shed she is really dark. Leopard seems to be a darkening gene. This girl almost looks like dark chocolate.
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Originally Posted by rufretic
Very nice clutch, I’m really liking the leopard mojave and leopard mojave pastel. All are beautiful though, congrats!
Thanks Ruf. I really like what Leopard does with Mojave and Lesser/Butter.
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Once these have taken a few meals some will be moving on so I thought I'd get a group shot in natural light. It's really hard to get 9 snakes in good positions to take a picture and I got tagged twice trying to get this one. Little boogers are feisty.
https://s19.postimg.cc/ptffh5nlf/201..._resized_1.jpg
Here is one more of the 4 gene animal in natural light. You can really see the bands in this shot.
https://s19.postimg.cc/ptffh585v/201..._resized_1.jpg
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That one hell of a great looking clutch,congratulations
brilliant striping
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Originally Posted by rlditmars
Fantastic
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This guy is really turning yellow except for the head. It is getting curiouser and curiouser.
https://s19.postimg.cc/4a6uuays3/201...15_resized.jpg
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Wow that’s a beautiful clutch!
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I thought I would show the two I plan to hold back from clutch #1. They are both female so it will be a while before I can work with them. Still, I am very excited to grow them up a bit.
https://s19.postimg.cc/gdorn580j/201...25_resized.jpg
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Oh my so adorable, my son flip out if he saw the leopard Mojave he loves the dark morphs, great clutch of babes big congratulations you must be so proud :gj:
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I can’t see the pictures I’m so mad
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Originally Posted by richardhind1972
That one hell of a great looking clutch,congratulations
brilliant striping.
Thanks. It's one of my favorite clutches produced.
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Originally Posted by Godzilla78
Fantastic
Thank you God. I mean Godzilla. I guess I can't abbreviate your name. :)
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Originally Posted by Sonny1318
Wow that’s a beautiful clutch!
Thanks Sonny.
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Originally Posted by rufretic
Couple of beauties!
Thanks Ruf.
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Originally Posted by C.Marie
Oh my so adorable, my son flip out if he saw the leopard Mojave he loves the dark morphs, great clutch of babes big congratulations you must be so proud :gj:
Thank you C.Marie. Here is a recent pic. She's staying pretty dark still.
https://s19.postimg.cc/nekkkxes3/201...08_resized.jpg
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Originally Posted by Joelgriz8124
I can’t see the pictures I’m so mad.
Joel, Sorry about that. I'm not sure why. Perhaps try looking on a different device.
I'll throw some updated pictures on here soon. I took some side shots that really show off the patterns. The Leopard Mojave pic above is one of them. Stay tuned.
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I went online rather than the Tapatalk app and I got to see them ! Strong work , all beautiful !
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Wow really holding the color nicely and love that pattern and gorgeous yellow/gold down the tail:bow:
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Would have been my choice also. Great clutch.
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