Help! Is this a Fire Ball?

Can i have some help with the “Fire” Female? Shes been with me a week and the more I observe and compare to other fire ball pythons on the internet, the more i think she’s Not a fire.
-head marking is not pronounced
-colour seems too dark
-doesnt have a clear belly - (dirty belly)

If you guys can confirm, i’d like to return her to the shop that sold it to me. As she was sold as a Fire morph.

Here are some more pictures of her and her belly shots:
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Your inputs are much appreciated!


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I stink at morph ID, but I'm not seeing fire there...

I don't see Fire either, looks pretty normal.

Not a fire. If by very slim chance it is, it is not a nice example at all.

Normie all the way, sorry.

I have a fire and a normal, I can confirm that this girl is definitely a normal.

Oh dang. 5 pair of eyes cannot be wrong, right. Suspicion confirmed then. Bummer.

On the bright side, it’s good to realise this earlier than having to grow her and realise i will only have normal clutches. Will definitely be bringing her back to the shop and trade her.

Hmmm.. another poll!
What do u guys suggest I trade her with? If i’m not mistaken, there were mojaves, lesser, vanilla, lemonblast, albino in the shop. Where i am, it’s harder to source for more unique morphs like mystic, phantom or banana.

FYI, Her current mate would be a male queen bee.

Target morph: Pastave, BEL, .....?


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I vote mojave, gives you a chance at pastave, bel, mojo spiders, and a slew of combos.

I vote for Lesser. I think they are more attractive than Mojave as a stand alone morph. And they really enhance just about every combo out there, I don't think I've ever seen something with Lesser that wasn't an obvious improvement in color and pattern. Here's my massive Lesser female, she is super gravid in this photo and it was taken just a week or so before her ovulation. She should lay eggs soon, I'm guessing she will lay 10+ eggs. I bred her with my Bamboo, so I'm hoping for a Blue Eyed Lucy (Bamboo Lesser) as well as some more Lessers and Bamboos (and hopefully not too many Normals LOL).

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...com/lesser.jpg

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I vote for Lesser. I think they are more attractive than Mojave as a stand alone morph. And they really enhance just about every combo out there, I don't think I've ever seen something with Lesser that wasn't an obvious improvement in color and pattern. Here's my massive Lesser female, she is super gravid in this photo and it was taken just a week or so before her ovulation. She should lay eggs soon, I'm guessing she will lay 10+ eggs. I bred her with my Bamboo, so I'm hoping for a Blue Eyed Lucy (Bamboo Lesser) as well as some more Lessers and Bamboos (and hopefully not too many Normals LOL).

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...com/lesser.jpg

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If I'm not mistaken, his male queen bee already contains lesser, so adding a lesser female only gives him a chance at a super lesser... a bel with a chance of eye issues. A mojave would give him a chance of a bel with no known issues and more diverse possibilities.

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If I'm not mistaken, his male queen bee already contains lesser, so adding a lesser female only gives him a chance at a super lesser... a bel with a chance of eye issues. A mojave would give him a chance of a bel with no known issues and more diverse possibilities.

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Yes, the QB already has the lesser gene.
There are eye issues with BEL (super Lesser) ?

I think Mojave will be a great addition and will still be in a market for a quality Fire ball.


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I vote mojave, gives you a chance at pastave, bel, mojo spiders, and a slew of combos.

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Went to the shop today and exhanged the ‘fire’ to a female mojave. She’s still a baby though!
I was told she’s less than 2 months old.

She looks darker than usual mojave but her yellows are amazing in my opinion. Currently she has a pink belly which i think is an indication that she’ll be in shed soon! Her first shed too!

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An exceptionally nice mojave you got there!

Yeah, super lesser and or supper butter can occasionally pop out with eye issues, but mojave x lesser or butter are just as white and seem to lack any such problems.

Lesser.

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