ReptiChip vs. Reptile Prime Size Comparison

I just finished up the ReptiChip that I'd been using. Today, when I do a deep cleaning, I will switch to the Reptile Prime that I purchased. But, it got me thinking. ReptiChip is bigger chunks, while Reptile Prime is much finer, like dried dirt.

I always thought bigger chunks were harder to accidentally digest. I'm sure both are good, but the Reptile Prime looks like it might be more pleasing to the eye.

Opinions?

Picture below... ReptiChip is on the left, Reptile Prime is on the right.

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Well repti chip sucks. (My opinion, it's dirty, it's to big, and uncomfortable) reptile prime is the bomb digity. No dust, softer, not dirty, will stay damp never wet. Spot clean for months without doing a full change. And yes better appealing.

If I were to ever start using substrate I think Reptile Prime bedding would be my first choice. I've read and watched a lot of reviews and I guess it holds humidity very well and hardly ever has to be changed. I would love to use it for those reasons, but the risk of animals swallowing it and developing digestive problems just isn't worth it to me. It seems like it would be even easier for them to swallow this stuff than just about anything else, because it's so fine that it is bound to get stuck all over the rodents and the animals will no doubt be dragging it in their water dishes constantly. For those reasons, I have to stick with paper towels...

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Originally Posted by Sunnieskys

Well repti chip sucks. (My opinion, it's dirty, it's to big, and uncomfortable) reptile prime is the bomb digity. No dust, softer, not dirty, will stay damp never wet. Spot clean for months without doing a full change. And yes better appealing.

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Well... we're going to try it shortly... and while I do like ReptiChip, I've never really tried anything else. I do like the smaller and finer texture of Reptile Prime better to the eye. ReptiChip, although its supposed to be good for humidity, I still had to mist often.

I think Reptile Prime is a bit more expensive, but if its good I have no problem with the investment.

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Originally Posted by Aedryan Methyus

If I were to ever start using substrate I think Reptile Prime bedding would be my first choice. I've read and watched a lot of reviews and I guess it holds humidity very well and hardly ever has to be changed. I would love to use it for those reasons, but the risk of animals swallowing it and developing digestive problems just isn't worth it to me. It seems like it would be even easier for them to swallow this stuff than just about anything else, because it's so fine that it is bound to get stuck all over the rodents and the animals will no doubt be dragging it in their water dishes constantly. For those reasons, I have to stick with paper towels...

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That is really the only fear I have, that finer substrate is easier to stick to prey. But, hey, many use it with no problem, so it can't be that bad.

I would have preferred paper towels or blank newspaper stock, but when I used the paper towels humidity was horrendous.

For ball pythons, the prima donnas of the snake world, reptile prime is your best option for their delicate constitutions. For healthy snakes there is no reason to use anything else.

If you are so concerned about impaction, don't give your snake a wet rodent that can have substrate stick to it and you won't need to keep yourself up at night worrying about them eating dirt.

I've always had good humidity on paper towels but i also put a lot of work into having really well sealed vivs (with adequate ventilation of course), but its so damn ugly. I have one snake on reti-bark, which i believe is orchid bark. I dont like that it offers almost no absorption so i have to push it aside to soak up urine with a paper towel anyway, and similarly on particularly dry days (dead of winter with central heat blasting) misting it has very short lived effects. BUT having said that, i think it is very nice looking, strikes the right size balance between small enough to eat and too large to be comfortable, and this is a big one, has extremely impressive odor controlling abilities. It has a very nice natural scent of its own and i've had the same batch going for nearly a year, spot cleaning and replenishing of course, and it still has a nice smell every time i open the viv, actually make it a little tricky to know when the snake has pooped b/c it block the odor so well. Anyway, just wanted to add my 2 cents :)

Yeah... That's what sucks about not using substrate. I run a high output humidifier and a space heater in my snake room 24/7 and I keep the heater vent closed. I'm able to keep the humidity 50% - 60% in the whole room throughout the winter that way and I also mist every day/every other day (especially when animals are shedding). Definitely not the most cost efficient or easiest way to handle humidity by any means, but my house gets so dry during the winter that I doubt any substrate would keep the humidity levels high enough without still having to run a humidifier. I've been tempted to get some of this Reptile Prime and try it, though. Maybe at least I wouldn't have to run my humidifier on high 24/7. I'm mostly concerned about my animals swallowing it...

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The closest I've came to misting is when I spray my cats with a spray bottle so they won't take naps over my snakes.

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The closest I've came to misting is when I spray my cats with a spray bottle so they won't take naps over my snakes.

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Ive used aspen, paper, cypress mulch, coconut husk and coconut fiber.

(I am not using brand names, just the generic description)

Aspen: didn’t help humidity, stuck to things, hard to clean off carpet. It didn’t absorb odor very well. I wont use again.

Paper: didn’t help humidity. easy to clean, but not very absorbent at all, pee would just get underneath it. Didn’t absorb odor at all, waste would stink immediately and stay stinky.
It is cheap and easy, so I would use it as a breeder, if I ever get 20 snakes, but I will never use it with just a few snakes.

Cypress mulch: excellent at humidity, fairly easy to spot clean, but chunky. Absorbed odor well. Overall Very good substrate, but not environmentally sustainable, so i wont use again.

Coconut husk: a lot like cypress mulch, even better odor absorbing. Sustainable. Highly recommended.

Coconut fiber: good for humidity, excellent at odor control, this stuff is amazing for waste. Feces and urine are instantly absorbed, and like soil, it encourages natural bacteria to begin composting action. It is very easy to spot clean, just scoop up the waste like kitty litter, and your done.
This is the stuff all the forum members rave about for good reason.
1 downside: it does get stuck in their mouth sometimes. I recommend laying down paper and offering the prey over the paper, so the snake doesnt get a mouthful of dirt! I had to use a Q-tip and swab the stuff out of Chuck’s mouth last week.


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What is the deal with reptile prime exactly? It looks like it's just really expensive eco-earth with Brian's face on it. :confusd:

Has nothing to do with how delicate a snake is or not ;) Both work perfectly fine.

Its really mostly personal preference. And priorities.

If finances are a priority, ReptiChip is cheaper.

Here is why I prefer Reptile Prime over ReptiChip.

I do NOT like having to wet that giant brick of ReptiChip. It leaves me with a huge amount of wet substrate. And it stays wet for quite a while. It raises the humidity like crazy, and that is not always a good thing. I much prefer to start out with DRY substrate and then mist as needed. When I used ReptiChip I would put the wet stuff in a giant tote and then turn it several times the day while trying to dry it out faster. Pain in the rear end. IF someone needs super high humidity and has a cage in which substrate dries out quickly, by all means, ReptiChip would be great. Also if you need a ton of substrate for many animals, ReptiChip may be the way to go, as you don't have to store that much of it.

I do NOT like the big chunks in ReptiChip. They don't feel comfortable. Also, they have different colors/shades. Some lighter, some darker. That in itself is not a problem, pleasing to the eye actually, but it makes spot cleaning harder. With The Reptile Prime I know exactly which part of the substrate is soiled. Its darker. With the ReptiChip I used to waste a lot more clean substrate, because of the chunks and not being sure which chunks are darker because they have urine soaked in and which of them are darker just because that's the way they are. I also find Reptile Prime soaks up messes much better, far easier to clean.

I HAVE found mold on ReptiChip. On the chunks. I have never had that problem with Reptile Prime.

So here you go. If some of those issues on either of those products are not a big deal to you, you can decide what works FOR YOU !! The snakes will be fine either way, if you adjust the humidity correctly.
I have low humidity in the house at times. When the AC runs a lot or the heater. Never had a issue though. I have one of those bigger spray bottles (pressure ones) and it takes seconds to mist.

Yes, sometimes you will have a piece of substrate in the snakes mouth. With either of the products. Only have seen that occasionally. With Reptile Prime it will be soft and most likely they can work it out of their mouth themselves just fine. If a bit gets swallowed, no big deal. They digest bones within days, a bit of dirt isn't going to cause an issue.

The only time I had to "dig out" a piece of substrate was actually a long but narrow chunk of ReptiChip. That was not going to just work its way out. Of course that was in Jags (3000 gr male) mouth and he was still in hunting/feeding mode. Fun fun.

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Originally Posted by Alter-Echo

What is the deal with reptile prime exactly? It looks like it's just really expensive eco-earth with Brian's face on it. :confusd:

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I used it before it had Brian's face on it and before he purchased it. Its not like the other substrates and I purchased a bunch of similar ones and made a post comparing them (with pictures) If I can find it, I will link you to it ;)

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I used it before it had Brian's face on it and before he purchased it. Its not like the other substrates and I purchased a bunch of similar ones and made a post comparing them (with pictures) If I can find it, I will link you to it ;)

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Ah, ok, I've never seen that thread, and am curious to see how they compare. I've always used eco earth for my humidity loving snakes, and aspen for stuff like hoggies and kings, and the reptile prime looks similar to eco earth from the pics I've seen.

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Ah, ok, I've never seen that thread, and am curious to see how they compare. I've always used eco earth for my humidity loving snakes, and aspen for stuff like hoggies and kings, and the reptile prime looks similar to eco earth from the pics I've seen.

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Here it is. Its on page 2 of this thread. Back then Reptile Prime was still called Herptopia.

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https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...itters+crumble

Laying paper/paper plates/etc. down when feeding never sounded like a very feasible option to me, especially for the ones that eat live. A lot of my snakes are literally leaping up out of their tubs before I can even get them pulled out enough to feed them at feeding time. I suppose I would be able to pick them up and slide some paper under them once they've wrapped their prey. That just seems like it would be a huge pain for 15 - 20 + snakes... As fine, fluffy and light as this Reptile Prime seems to be it seems like it's bound to get stuck all over the rodent's fur even if the rodent is dry. I really do want to give this stuff a try, though. The way i've been handling humidity is a non-stop, never ending battle! Running a high output humidifier 24/7 is racking up my electric bill and I don't see how it could possibly last very long running it 24/7...

It doesn't get stuck all over the rodent ;)

Next time I feed I stick one to the bedding and make a picture, LOL.

I feed frozen / thawed, the rodents are not soaking wet by any means, but not completely dry.

Not trying to over promote that stuff. Just trying to help in pointing out shortcomings of one and the others. I still believe its mostly up to the keepers preference and needs.

The deal with reptile prime is it is not a compressed brick you have to moisten or damp substrate in a bag. It is sifted to lower dust and comes dry so you can put it straight in the enclosure.

And yes Zina I was not serious about ball pythons being prima donnas even though they totally are. Such big babies that need special care or they get all pouty!

I like not having to worry about the substrate for 3 months so that is why I use reptile prime and a PVC cage, so much less hassle.

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Laying paper/paper plates/etc. down when feeding never sounded like a very feasible option to me, especially for the ones that eat live. A lot of my snakes are literally leaping up out of their tubs before I can even get them pulled out enough to feed them at feeding time. I suppose I would be able to pick them up and slide some paper under them once they've wrapped their prey. That just seems like it would be a huge pain for 15 - 20 + snakes... As fine, fluffy and light as this Reptile Prime seems to be it seems like it's bound to get stuck all over the rodent's fur even if the rodent is dry. I really do want to give this stuff a try, though. The way i've been handling humidity is a non-stop, never ending battle! Running a high output humidifier 24/7 is racking up my electric bill and I don't see how it could possibly last very long running it 24/7...

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You are going to have to run a humidifier anyway in your severe case. It will not use as much energy if you get a cool evaporater, instead of a heated type.


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Originally Posted by zina10

Here it is. Its on page 2 of this thread. Back then Reptile Prime was still called Herptopia.

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https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...itters+crumble

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Thank ya muchly! So from what I can see, the reptile prime is a bit more coarse and maybe more absorbent than the eco earth... interesting.

This question is a very subjective one. I personally hate any fine ground substrate for my snakes as i have had problems with it getting stuck on feeders, get packed down by large snakes and grow mold, being a pain in the butt to clean up when it gets stuck in door tracks or just having to clean the cage.

If you are using something like a glass tank(god knows why you would use one for a snake as a fish tank is for fish), then maybe Reptile Prime will work for you. Or if you have smaller snakes that dont pack the stuff down.

But like i said, for me, i had nothing but problems with fine ground substrate. Heck if you want something pleasing to look at, just use organic potting soil. To me all the coco husk stuff reminds of coffee grounds lol.

I personally use aspen and have for years and never had a problem. And yes, even with aspen, i can get my humidity to 90% without any misting if i really want too. Heck my boas are sitting at like 80% right now on it. And i have never had it mold and even had Luna jump in the water bowl and flood her cage and it didnt mold.

Bottom line is you are really the only one who can answer the question as they are your snakes, you know their quirks, you have to stare and clean the cages, you have to deal with any issues arising from either substrate. And let me tell you, having to prop open an 8 month old boas mouth with a Q-Tip and then hang its head downward while using a spray bottle to hose all the packed in coffee ground substrate out of her mouth is not fun.

The problem was fine substrate releases water really fast. I found that when i used stuff like Eco Earth, it was either too wet or too dry. The other problem was with hides. Inside the hide would build up so much condensation, it would be dripping wet in there. Well a small snake rubs its face on the hide from moving and its face gets wet. Then it gets said wet face on the substrate. The substrate sticks. The snake tries to wipe it off on the hide which gets more water which gets more substrate on it and it just goes from there.

And saying its not dusty, i dont buy it. Eco Earth had dust in it. You are talking about a fine ground substrate. If it dries, it will have dust if the snake burrows in it.

Anyways, like i said OP, try them both and see which you like better. Just be aware there are lots of different substrate. Coco husk in chunk and ground form, cypress mulch, orchid bark, organic potting soil, backyard dirt(dont laugh, i know guys who use it for their monitors as nothing in the dirt is going to hurt your reptile since mites are not native to the US), corrugated cardboard, paper towels etc.

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The deal with reptile prime is it is not a compressed brick you have to moisten or damp substrate in a bag. It is sifted to lower dust and comes dry so you can put it straight in the enclosure.

And yes Zina I was not serious about ball pythons being prima donnas even though they totally are. Such big babies that need special care or they get all pouty!

I like not having to worry about the substrate for 3 months so that is why I use reptile prime and a PVC cage, so much less hassle.

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Oh but of course they are!! And we are their devoted slaves..haha.




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Just have to say that Reptile Prime is nothing like fine ground coffee or Eco Earth.

It's not all that fine at all. Nothing is 100 percent dust free, but in all reality, I found Aspen far more dusty (it even made me cough every time I had to scoop.some out) and ReptiChip also gets quite dusty when dry. Of all the ones I used the Reptile Prime is by far the least dusty, only beat by paper. And the most absorbent. It also does not pack down like Eco Earth. I don't have giant snakes, but my 3000 gr male doesn't pack it down. No mold ever in the year I used it, unlike with Aspen, eco earth and ReptiChip.

Honestly I couldn't care less what anyone decides to use. Just trying to help people that are trying to make up their mind by pointing out different aspects of different substrates I have used.

What anyone does with that info is on them. [emoji6]

One could always buy one bag and test it out...


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I dont know how anyone would like Aspen, I used it for months and everything else was better than that junk. Aspen for rats, but not snakes.


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I dont know how anyone would like Aspen, I used it for months and everything else was better than that junk. Aspen for rats, but not snakes.

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Depends on the snake. My rosy loves sani chips which is aspen. Had him on reptile prime and he just did not like it as much as aspen.

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Depends on the snake. My rosy loves sani chips which is aspen. Had him on reptile prime and he just did not like it as much as aspen.

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I just found it to be a mess, and wasnt very good at humidity and odor. Stuck to the rug if I spilled any.


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I will say it again....reptile prime is NOT anything like eco earth except the color. It is not course like coffee grounds and it does not stick to my thawed out rats unless there was a leak in the bag and even then not really. I still am on my origional bag of Herptopia. This stuff is amazing.

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I dont know how anyone would like Aspen, I used it for months and everything else was better than that junk. Aspen for rats, but not snakes.


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Aspen has worked for me for years. It is absorbent, easy to see liquid on, cheap so i can throw it out every month and put new stuff in. It is dusty but i always just grab my pump mister and throw down a nice mist on top and it is fine. Have had my big BCI girl on it for 5+ years and she went from an 18 inch worm to now a 6.5 foot monster.

Baby boas LOVE it too. I've talked to a lot of breeders and a lot use it as like i said, it is cheap and readily available. Except the Zoo Med stuff which even online is still about $10 a 24 qt bag which for me, i need 10 bags to do all my snakes which was equaling to about $100 a month in just substrate alone. Then factor in the other about $120 in food and was going through almost $250 a month on my snakes lol. Not sure how much Reptile Prime is as like i said, i have never used but the Amercian Excelsior Aspen i fnally found again is about $5 for a 7 cu ft bale. ReptiChips is decent as it is about $20 a block and i can do 5 4x2 cages and 3 6x3 cages with about 4 blocks.

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I will say it again....reptile prime is NOT anything like eco earth except the color. It is not course like coffee grounds and it does not stick to my thawed out rats unless there was a leak in the bag and even then not really. I still am on my origional bag of Herptopia. This stuff is amazing.

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Anything sticks to my FT rats but i also rinse them off under hot water and pat dry them with a paper towel. Just with aspen and Reptichips, i can pick off any pieces with tongs if the snakes drag their food off the cardboard which recently they have loved to.

I am curious though, i was just checking out the webpage and it doesnt show the size of the bags. For those who have bought it, what size bag is it? 24 qt? NM, i found it on Reptile Basics page. It is 24 QT size for $15.99 without shipping or $20.00 shipped from Reptile Basics. Yeah gonna skip that noise. Would cost me like $200 in just substrate a month for my snakes with it if i followed the recommended once every month changing they say on the bag. Or $100 a month if i went by their max recommendation of every 2 months.

Think I'll just stick to aspen and ReptiChips lol.

going back to the original question that was asked..

Here is my old pic when I compared substrates.

ReptiChip vs Reptile Prime (formerly Herptopia)

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...y/large/s2.jpg

hope that helps :D


oh, here is another one

Eco Earth vs. Reptile Prime

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...y/large/s3.jpg

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going back to the original question that was asked..

Here is my old pic when I compared substrates.

ReptiChip vs Reptile Prime (formerly Herptopia)

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...y/large/s2.jpg

hope that helps :D


oh, here is another one

Eco Earth vs. Reptile Prime

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...y/large/s3.jpg

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Yeah i see the difference. It's like a midway point between Eco Earth and Reptichips. I bet you could find a cheaper same size from a garden store. I know like ReptiChips has it's knockoffs like Pro Coco and the other brand i cant remember now which JM found a shank or needle or something in.

Might be decent for my GTP though. I'm using Reptichips for him and so far he seems to love the stuff. I dont think he has ever seen it so he has been digging in it at night for about 30 mins and then going into his water dish or back up on his perches lol.

Here's a close up of the Reptichips in his cage. It fills nicely yet leaves enough rough spots for the snake to grip and 'exercise'
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...96b3cb80_h.jpg

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Yeah i see the difference. It's like a midway point between Eco Earth and Reptichips. I bet you could find a cheaper same size from a garden store. I know like ReptiChips has it's knockoffs like Pro Coco and the other brand i cant remember now which JM found a shank or needle or something in.

Might be decent for my GTP though. I'm using Reptichips for him and so far he seems to love the stuff. I dont think he has ever seen it so he has been digging in it at night for about 30 mins and then going into his water dish or back up on his perches lol.

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If I could find a knock off that is just like it (it really is quite different from anything I've seen) I'd be on that like a fly on manure! LOL

Actually I think you would like it for your GTP. Not so much because he/she would prefer it, but it makes cleaning so much easier, esp with the tiny but frequent "messes" they make. The bigger and different colored chips in ReptiChip make that more difficult, imho..


Edited to say, even if you got the ReptiChip ground up a bit, it would still not feel like the Reptile Prime. Hard to explain but the Prime is fluffier, softer feeling. Not just smaller chunks of ReptiChip. But yeah, I would love to be able to find it elsewhere..and cheaper!

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If I could find a knock off that is just like it (it really is quite different from anything I've seen) I'd be on that like a fly on manure! LOL

Actually I think you would like it for your GTP. Not so much because he/she would prefer it, but it makes cleaning so much easier, esp with the tiny but frequent "messes" they make. The bigger and different colored chips in ReptiChip make that more difficult, imho..

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True. Like i said, i will probably order 1 bag and see how it works for him and see how he likes it. Right now, i kind of just gave up looking for the little tiny poops and just throw the whole stuff out every week lol. It's only an 18x18 cube so a block will last at least a month or two and thats with me changing it out every week. But yeah, I'm kind of curious to try this stuff now lol.

No way i could use it for all my snakes though unless they give me wholesale pricing for it if i bought it in boxes of 20-30 bags at a time. No way I'm paying $15.99 a bag plus shipping for how much i would need lol. And I'm rather disappointed. Just talked to the guy who i was hoping would have a litter or two of moonglow and/or super moonglow BCI boas and none of his females took. Probably going to have to wait until next year for his moonglow litters :( He does have a few snows i think is what he told me but BAH!! I want a moonglow :)

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True. Like i said, i will probably order 1 bag and see how it works for him and see how he likes it. Right now, i kind of just gave up looking for the little tiny poops and just throw the whole stuff out every week lol. It's only an 18x18 cube so a block will last at least a month or two and thats with me changing it out every week. But yeah, I'm kind of curious to try this stuff now lol.

No way i could use it for all my snakes though unless they give me wholesale pricing for it if i bought it in boxes of 20-30 bags at a time. No way I'm paying $15.99 a bag plus shipping for how much i would need lol. And I'm rather disappointed. Just talked to the guy who i was hoping would have a litter or two of moonglow and/or super moonglow BCI boas and none of his females took. Probably going to have to wait until next year for his moonglow litters :(

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Price is most definitely a big factor. Like I've said...if one has many animals, it adds up painfully. Esp. since there is no "combined" shipping. I've been waiting on that since the stuff came out.
Since I only have a few animals, to me, the convenience of it outweighs the price.

There is no way you will have to throw out the entire substrate when you clean, though. It is easy to see where the mess is. Well, with your teeny one it might actually be harder. But you will notice a tiny "wet" spot with some urates. Unless that is somewhere buried within the plants.


edited to say, so sorry about the BCI :( That stinks !!! Is no-one else breeding them?

Wonder how it is more fluffy and soft though. It is the same stuff, coco husk fiber. And it is claimed to be 100% pure. But anyways, you just killed me when you said there is no combined shipping. So you pay a fixed shipping per bag no matter what? I know with ReptiChips, they have a flat rate of $20 shipping no matter how many blocks you order. I liked that as i just order like 5-10 blocks at once and have it sitting next to the cages along with the bales of aspen.

Well i just throw out all substrate every month or two regardless. I did stretch the boas out to 3 months once but to me, any substrate starts to get a funky smell after a couple months. Not like waste but just not a very fresh smell. Maybe the potted live plants in the cage will clean the air? So far it has seemed to work but i also just changed all my little boas, dumerils and BP cages with fresh aspen yesterday.

And yeah, Pat seems to only poop on the floor. He comes down at night for his nightly digging and swim like i said and thats when he drops a little poop or piss and then commences with climbing all over all night lol.

But yeah, if you have a smaller collection or smaller caging like a rack, i can see how the stuff might be nice as it is a nice median between the 2 extremes of the coco husk. But for someone with large cages and large snakes and a retic who lives to piss, i would be run to the poor house faster than a fat kid going down on a seesaw.

Haha no problem. I 'm sure there are others out there but i personally trust this guy and have known him awhile. He was going to cut me a nice deal on a super moonglow female. They usually go for about $1200 but i was going to get it for sub $1000 pricing :). I told him that he has depressed me now so i am going to double my efforts to find me that perfect Peruvian BCC......or maybe that little red neo Biak cross GTP. But i would need new caging and stuff for it. i have a cage laying around and set up that i can throw a moonglow or Peruvian BCC into :)

And have i told you how much i hate Eco Earth? Lol. I think Gina hates it more as our first 2 bonding experiences were of me propping her mouth open, hanging her head towards the floor and hosing her mouth out with a spray bottle. Luckily she hasnt held it against me and is a total couch potato of a boa lol.

Hahaha...totally understand !!!

It was the one sore spot for me, too, and I have asked a few times about combined shipping back when it was Herptopia. I was always told "its coming".

But now its Reptile Prime and that one time I've ordered (direct) the shipping was for every bag :mad:

Perhaps its time to ask about it again. Also, not sure how buying it from Amazon is. I'm going through it SO SLOWLY I won't run out anytime soon. Bought 5 bags, still have 4 !! LOL. But I also still had to go through some leftover ReptiChip during this time, so now I will use it up faster!

I have the solution for your "Blues". Retail therapy.

Get something to fill that cage and get a red GTP, too. You know you want to...

Comon, you're worth it ;)

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Hahaha...totally understand !!!

It was the one sore spot for me, too, and I have asked a few times about combined shipping back when it was Herptopia. I was always told "its coming".

But now its Reptile Prime and that one time I've ordered (direct) the shipping was for every bag :mad:

Perhaps its time to ask about it again. Also, not sure how buying it from Amazon is. I'm going through it SO SLOWLY I won't run out anytime soon. Bought 5 bags, still have 4 !! LOL. But I also still had to go through some leftover ReptiChip during this time, so now I will use it up faster!

I have the solution for your "Blues". Retail therapy.

Get something to fill that cage and get a red GTP, too. You know you want to...

Comon, you're worth it ;)

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Lol, i would be murdered or put outside with a suitcase on the curb if i got both. I am already looking at about $1000 for a Peruvian BCC. Add in another $900 or so for a USCBB red neo biak cross plus another $300 or so in caging and the set up for the GTP...yeah i would be murdered haha. But until then, it would be like heaven...then quickly turn to hell haha.

Anyways, got me kind of excited to try a bag of this stuff for Pat and see how he takes to it. If he hates it and bites me, I'm sending him to see you Zina :P

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Lol, i would be murdered or put outside with a suitcase on the curb if i got both. I am already looking at about $1000 for a Peruvian BCC. Add in another $900 or so for a USCBB red neo biak cross plus another $300 or so in caging and the set up for the GTP...yeah i would be murdered haha. But until then, it would be like heaven...then quickly turn to hell haha.

Anyways, got me kind of excited to try a bag of this stuff for Pat and see how he takes to it. If he hates it and bites me, I'm sending him to see you Zina :P

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Ok, he will hate it, he will so hate it, just send him to me now :)


btw. Its easier to ask for forgiveness, then to ask for permission ;)

I just checked the Amazon price. Its actually the same that what I paid, with the shipping incorporated. So $21 a bag.

BUT, I noticed it say "promotion available"

When I clicked on that it said :Promotion Available
Save 30% each on Qualifying items offered by Midwest Organics / CatSpot Litter when you purchase 2 or more. Here's how (restrictions apply)

So I put 4 bags into my cart, to see if this would work.

You have to go all the way to the checkout page and then sure enough, it took $30 off the price of each bag. Which made it cheaper then what I paid PLUS shipping.
Basically, $14.70 per bag. Now that is a nice savings actually. Especially with free 2 day shipping (on Prime. Amazon Prime, Prime on Prime..LOL)

Well, at that price I hit "place your order".

Anyone looking to buy, that's not a bad deal. I hope that doesn't count as advertising? Just sharing the savings...

I ordered a bag from the web site. We'll see how it works out.

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Anything sticks to my FT rats but i also rinse them off under hot water and pat dry them with a paper towel. Just with aspen and Reptichips, i can pick off any pieces with tongs if the snakes drag their food off the cardboard which recently they have loved to.

I am curious though, i was just checking out the webpage and it doesnt show the size of the bags. For those who have bought it, what size bag is it? 24 qt? NM, i found it on Reptile Basics page. It is 24 QT size for $15.99 without shipping or $20.00 shipped from Reptile Basics. Yeah gonna skip that noise. Would cost me like $200 in just substrate a month for my snakes with it if i followed the recommended once every month changing they say on the bag. Or $100 a month if i went by their max recommendation of every 2 months.

Think I'll just stick to aspen and ReptiChips lol.

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Like I said before...I'm on my original bag of Herptopia and I have two snakes and I bought that bag last May. You will be fine.

I tried the Reptile Prime for the first time today and I really think I'm going to like it. I had been using shredded aspen and sani chips, which I can't find anymore, but the Reptile Prime was a nice change. Hardly any dust and pleasing to the eye. I misted it a little bit and it seems to be holding humidity very well. It's more expensive than aspen but I've heard it lasts a good while. I bought 4 bags to try out and it took me a I used a full bag and a third of a second bag to cover 2 of my 4x2 enclosures. I'll finish the others tomorrow. So far so good though.

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I tried the Reptile Prime for the first time today and I really think I'm going to like it. I had been using shredded aspen and sani chips, which I can't find anymore, but the Reptile Prime was a nice change. Hardly any dust and pleasing to the eye. I misted it a little bit and it seems to be holding humidity very well. It's more expensive than aspen but I've heard it lasts a good while. I bought 4 bags to try out and it took me a I used a full bag and a third of a second bag to cover 2 of my 4x2 enclosures. I'll finish the others tomorrow. So far so good though.

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Let me know how much it takes to do all your 4x2 cages, Zig. I am curious as i have 5 4x2 cages and 3 6x3 cages.

Also if you are looking for aspen, here is the place i use for American Excelsior stuff which i used to get from Bean Farm until Doug got tired of driving out to Eastern Washington to pick it up all the time lol.

https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/-pr...orse%20bedding

I need someone with large constrictors to tell me how long the stuff lasts them. I just prices out 10 bags and with shipping, it would cost me $209.80 lol.

I'm going to send them an email and see if they offer wholesaling prices if ordering 10 bags or at least combined shipping lol.

What the heck lol. I tried to email them and get an error with address. Then i go to FB page and they dont have a contact through it. So the only way i can contact them is call them Monday :(

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Basically, $14.70 per bag. Now that is a nice savings actually. Especially with free 2 day shipping (on Prime. Amazon Prime, Prime on Prime..LOL)

Well, at that price I hit "place your order".

Anyone looking to buy, that's not a bad deal. I hope that doesn't count as advertising? Just sharing the savings...

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I just ordered two bags... came out to a tad under $30. And, not that I needed it, but offered free ONE day shipping. Not bad.

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I need someone with large constrictors to tell me how long the stuff lasts them. I just prices out 10 bags and with shipping, it would cost me $209.80 lol.

I'm going to send them an email and see if they offer wholesaling prices if ordering 10 bags or at least combined shipping lol.

What the heck lol. I tried to email them and get an error with address. Then i go to FB page and they dont have a contact through it. So the only way i can contact them is call them Monday :(

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The only thing that irritated me at first was that some heavier snakes pushed the substrate all around and ended up laying on the bare floor. The substrate is very light and fluffy. But after a couple of misting it seemed to settle. Or the snakes gave up pushing it around. Lol. Either way, I don't notice it anymore. Only sometimes when they want to get closer to the heat tape. Which they also did at times with the other substrates.

Before you invest a lot of money, try it out first. The Amazon Deal is the lowest price I have ever seen it at.


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I need someone with large constrictors to tell me how long the stuff lasts them. I just prices out 10 bags and with shipping, it would cost me $209.80 lol.

I'm going to send them an email and see if they offer wholesaling prices if ordering 10 bags or at least combined shipping lol.

What the heck lol. I tried to email them and get an error with address. Then i go to FB page and they dont have a contact through it. So the only way i can contact them is call them Monday :(

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btw. If you do the Amazon deal, that order will cost you about $147

But I'm not sure how long this deal lasts, or if there will always be some kind of deal like that.

Just ordered from amazon, looking forward to trying it out!

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I need someone with large constrictors to tell me how long the stuff lasts them. I just prices out 10 bags and with shipping, it would cost me $209.80 lol.

I'm going to send them an email and see if they offer wholesaling prices if ordering 10 bags or at least combined shipping lol.

What the heck lol. I tried to email them and get an error with address. Then i go to FB page and they dont have a contact through it. So the only way i can contact them is call them Monday :(

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Just wasting money on large constrictors. They release Noah level floods of liquid and it would just make you work extra hard. Plus they are so heavy bodied they would just push the stuff around into a pile anyway. I say just stick with paper.