Very Succesful First Feed

I bought myself a 3 1/2 foot python last weekend, dont worry i do know what im doin lol. So anyways today i went lookin for a frozen adult rat to feed my male bp. But unfortunatley i could not find a pet store that had frozen ones in stock. So i went ahead and bought a live adult rat. And i think ill do it again because its very cool watchin my bp kill the rat. The minute the snake hit the rat, the rat let the yelps out of it for a couple of seconds until it started to loose its breath and slowly die. Im deffinetley gonna feed it another live rat again. The Snaked down the rat in like 5 mins, i was quite surprised cause it was quite big. Well i thought i would share that story lol

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Originally Posted by Phantom

I bought myself a 3 1/2 foot python last weekend, dont worry i do know what im doin lol. So anyways today i went lookin for a frozen adult rat to feed my male bp. But unfortunatley i could not find a pet store that had frozen ones in stock. So i went ahead and bought a live adult rat. And i think ill do it again because its very cool watchin my bp kill the rat. The minute the snake hit the rat, the rat let the yelps out of it for a couple of seconds until it started to loose its breath and slowly die. Im deffinetley gonna feed it another live rat again. The Snaked down the rat in like 5 mins, i was quite surprised cause it was quite big. Well i thought i would share that story lol

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Here we go again. Another person that feels the need to tell us that he likes to see his BP kill a rat and goes a step further describing it in detail. Please go away, nobody is interested.

Hey there buddy, if u dont got anything good to say dont say anything at all !!!!!

Im sorry that you have such a weak stomach. By the way if u dont like the feeding topics then stay out of the "threads" that say "feeding" on them.

Jamie is right. When I read your thread I assumed that you were having difficulty feeding your ball python which can be a common problem. However, when you say things like:

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Originally Posted by Phantom

the rat let the yelps out of it for a couple of seconds until it started to loose its breath and slowly die. Im deffinetley gonna feed it another live rat again.

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It shows your lack of respect for the python and the rodent. Most, if not all of the people on this site do not feed their snakes because they get a thrill out of watching the rodent die. It has nothing to do with a weak stomach. I, for one, do not see anything glamorous or exciting about seeing an animal lose its life.

-Lawrence

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Jamie is right. When I read your thread I assumed that you were having difficulty feeding your ball python which can be a common problem. However, when you say things like:



It shows your lack of respect for the python and the rodent. Most, if not all of the people on this site do not feed their snakes because they get a thrill out of watching the rodent die. It has nothing to do with a weak stomach. I, for one, do not see anything glamorous or exciting about seeing an animal lose its life.

-Lawrence

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Exactly Lawrence, its an issue of respect. We feed our snakes as part of the process of taking care of a living creature, not to watch them kill. I don't go out into the field and bash a cow over the head so I can watch it die before I eat.

I have lots of respect for my bp, thats why i gave it the best home that i can give it. But as gose for the rat, your right i dont have respect for the rat, cause the fact is, its just a rat. So get over it. I personaly dont like the rat, so why would i have respect for the rat? its just food for the my BP. If u got an issue with this, go tell somebody who cares. If it has something to do with my bp then tell me, cause that is one thing i care about, not some stupid rat.

I'm 100 percent behind Jamie on this one.
There's no need to share your story on here.
If you prefer to feed live, that's perfectly fine.
I don't see a need for you to post your details and put others in grieve.

Keep it cool guys.

I respect the rat, if for no other reason than it feeds my beloved snakes. Without the rat, (or other feeder) there is no snake.

Plus that, rats are intelligent and amusing animals.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Keep it cool guys.

I respect the rat, if for no other reason than it feeds my beloved snakes. Without the rat, (or other feeder) there is no snake.

Plus that, rats are intelligent and amusing animals.

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I am just not going to post anymore on this thread. The person is just looking to stir things up.

And since you are "just" a person who has no respect for the prey/predator dynamic and takes a seemingly sad thrill from describing it then you are "just" a person I wouldn't wish to know so I shall "just" not bother to read threads by you in the future.


~~Joanna~~

somebody should call animal control and take his snake away from him. it would be funny if some hungry animal came over and killed you slowly before he ate you huh phantom? people like you should not even own animals.

Let's not turn this into a personal attack.

I do find the natural hunting instinct interesting as well. I don't take sadistic pleasure in watching a rodent being killed by a snake, but I can't say it isn't interesting to watch. From what he has said, Phantom has done nothing abusive to his snake, so don't blow this out of proportion.

i find watching my snake eat live interesting too, because it happens in nature that way. but i would never post something like phantom did. talking about(in detail) how the rat died, and saying that he has no respect for the rat. i think it is sick how he takes pleasure in watching the rat slowly die. and for the record i feed my snakes prekilled now for the last 2 weeks for the reason that the rat doesnt suffer like that, even though i do think its interesting i dont see why rat has to suffer like that if it doesnt have too.

I feed live to some of my snakes for the simple fact that the darn things won't take f/t! Most of my snakes take f/t. I prefer humanely euthanizing with Co2, but I do not consider it cruel to feed live. It is what happens in nature. Yes, we can prevent it in many cases by feeding pre killed, but it doesn't always work that way.

i was just saying what i said because he ranted about not having respect for the rat. every living creature deserves respect. all "pets" have a downside to them. fish are beautiful but you have to have the correct water parameters. dogs are a blast but some shed enough fur to make another dog. snakes have to be fed other animals and that is the ony downside to them. i just think that a rat is not just a rat. it is a living being but is there to supply our snakes for health. i have kept rats as pets and they are one of the most intelligent creatures out there. friendly, curious, just like a small dog. i am not thrashing him for no reason its just that what he said seemed careless and inconsiderate. i also find it very interesting to see a snake take a live rat but thats where it stops. i understand that there is a circle of life and we has herpers just help one portion of it along. it is not a sort of entertainment.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Let's not turn this into a personal attack.

I do find the natural hunting instinct interesting as well. I don't take sadistic pleasure in watching a rodent being killed by a snake, but I can't say it isn't interesting to watch. From what he has said, Phantom has done nothing abusive to his snake, so don't blow this out of proportion.

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Shelby, cmon now..There is a difference between enjoying the natural hunting instinct and trolling on a message board by describing how it died and how much he enjoyed it. While he has done nothing abusive, I dont think people are blowing anything out of proportion. He has done enough to upset a few people and probably has some deep seated mental issues.

I would never derive pleasure from the slow, painful death of another creature.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Shelby, cmon now..There is a difference between enjoying the natural hunting instinct and trolling on a message board by describing how it died and how much he enjoyed it.

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I know.. I just said that.

Yes, they have upset people. I realise that. Just don't stoop to troll level and start name calling and whatnot.

That's all I'm saying.

My bp just ate a mouse last nite for the first time :)

lol, thank you python kid for resetting the tone:D . see guys, we need more people like python kid:P

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Originally Posted by Phantom

I have lots of respect for my bp, thats why i gave it the best home that i can give it. But as gose for the rat, your right i dont have respect for the rat, cause the fact is, its just a rat. So get over it. I personaly dont like the rat, so why would i have respect for the rat? its just food for the my BP. If u got an issue with this, go tell somebody who cares. If it has something to do with my bp then tell me, cause that is one thing i care about, not some stupid rat.

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Very well put!!

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Originally Posted by mister

Very well put!!

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Why was that well put?

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

Why was that well put?

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It was if by well put he actually meant totally unintelligible.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

It was if by well put he actually meant totally unintelligible.

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buddy they are RATS!! in america, rats are regarded as filthy little disease-carrying creatures. maybe where you're from its a delicassy, who knows

"I think it might be helpful for everyone to remember that the purpose of a forum like this is to EXCHANGE IDEAS, not dictate what is right or wrong or good or bad. If you disagree with what someone else is suggesting, you can say so without being argumentative or completely slamming the guy (or girl)." - Smynx


Consider this a warning to anyone else who wants to "slam" another site member in this thread. Lets knock off the name calling all.

Actually, rats can be pets, are very intelligent and you are being offensive. Every living thing deserves respect. Regardless of how you feel about it's life, it is still alive.

How many people feel this way about snakes in general? I am sure that you don't like when they talk like that about your snake.

In America rats are regarded more and more as lovely little pets. I regard them in that way, as well as lovely little meals for my lovely little snakes. :P

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Originally Posted by mister

buddy they are RATS!! in america, rats are regarded as filthy little disease-carrying creatures. maybe where you're from its a delicassy, who knows

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First off, I am not your buddy. I am from America and as far as I am aware rats are not a DELICACY here. However, I was brought up with a respect for living creatures and just because I choose to own snakes and feed them rodents, doesn't mean that I need to make their sacrifice any more brutal than it needs to be That doesn't make the meal any better for my snakes and is completely unnecessary.

"Compassion for animals is intimately connected with goodness of character and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good man." - Arthur Schopenhauer, German Philosopher

[QUOTE=led4urhead]"I think it might be helpful for everyone to remember that the purpose of a forum like this is to EXCHANGE IDEAS, not dictate what is right or wrong or good or bad. If you disagree with what someone else is suggesting, you can say so without being argumentative or completely slamming the guy (or girl)." - Smynx

i agree.

i only said what i said because this guy had no respect for rats and their lives. its not the rats fault for being a rat so i think that enjoying and becoming entertained from watching a snake feed is not a good reason to be owning a snake. people would call me crazy, but i love rats for their personalities and how intelligent they are. so we should drop this subject and move on. phantom is not even posting here anymore so i hope he got the idea to be more respectful to living creatures.

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Originally Posted by unimom

Actually, rats can be pets, are very intelligent and you are being offensive. Every living thing deserves respect. Regardless of how you feel about it's life, it is still alive.

How many people feel this way about snakes in general? I am sure that you don't like when they talk like that about your snake.

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ive had rats, guinea pigs, snakes and some other pets and i can say that rats serve no other important purposes except for food. if they arent cb, then they are just dirty rodents that roam around a lot. ive bred rats too

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Originally Posted by mister

ive had rats, guinea pigs, snakes and some other pets and i can say that rats serve no other important purposes except for food. if they arent cb, then they are just dirty rodents that roam around a lot. ive also bred rats too, so i do have experience with them and still feel the same way about them

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The point is not how you feel about rats but that you are intentionally trying to be offensive on our forum. We are all for a good debate, you don't have to intenionally try to make people mad or be confrontational to make a point. State your opinion w/o calling names, or slamming others please.

That's fine if you don't care for rats, but many people here DO, so please be respectful.

I like rats because they are intelligent, (unlike most other rodents, which I don't care for) affectionate (same as above) and often quite lovely.

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Originally Posted by unimom

The point is not how you feel about rats but that you are intentionally trying to be offensive on our forum. We are all for a good debate, you don't have to intenionally try to make people mad or be confrontational to make a point. State your opinion w/o calling namesm, or slammign others please.

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where/when did i offend someone?

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Originally Posted by mister

buddy they are RATS!! in america, rats are regarded as filthy little disease-carrying creatures. maybe where you're from its a delicassy, who knows

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-That could be considered offensive.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

-That could be considered offensive.

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no, those are facts

Well, I disagree.

I'm an American.. and I certainly don't consider them filthy, (ok you're right, they ARE little) disease-ridden, or a delicacy. (though I must say, my snakes do, but they don't count, I'm afraid)

We are talking about fancy domestic rats here, not sewer rats.

[QUOTE=Shelby}We are talking about fancy domestic rats here, not sewer rats.[/QUOTE]

and if you read one of my previous posts, i clearly said "captive-bred"

Yeah, ok.. then filthy and disease-ridden need not apply here. At least it shouldn't.. my rats are neither.

so i guess we could agree that MOST rats in the world are gross little sob's right?

I don't think they're gross. But I will say I wouldn't want to touch one that's for sure.

Rats appeal to some people. Like my 4th grade teacher has lots of umm "adopted" rats.

I wouldn't call them ugly or anything ,but I don't want one. The same goes for bugs for me.

Hey, bugs rock! I love my T and my 10 scorps. Even the roaches aren't bad!

They look cool and stuff ,but I just don't like them being in my house. Seeing them in the wilderness is fine. I just don't want them to touch me. Roaches are what I don't like.

... and thats a wrap.