New Beautiful Baby, Need Help Trying to ID

Hey All,

I just got this lovely Banana/CG Ball Python and i'm looking for help identifying the rest.

It has green eyes, clear belly (no yellowbelly that i can see), tons of cute very light yellow blushings coming in and pre-existing(pastel?), only about 5-7 freckles so far(banana/cg), and that lovely gold/orange tint to the yellow as you get to its sides. Beautiful standard "mojave" patterning with those "alien heads".

Let me know what ya think!!!

Any thoughts i've had so far have at best led me to:

Banana/CG, Enchi-Lesser, Butter, Pastel.

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Thanks Everyone!!!

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welcome to the forum!

i don't see any Mojave in that animal at all; definitely not a standard Mojave pattern. i do see a Banana Pastel. :)

EDIT: what were they sold as?

It was sold to me as a "Banana Ball" because the store owner told me the breeder didn't know who the female was and could have been many. Guess they just lost track of who the male bred with. I'm trying to get the gene info of the male.

Might it just be a 2-gene, banana/cg + pastel? Obviously I won't see anything that's Het. So there might be something sneaky in there lol.

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Originally Posted by MuscleNerd85

It was sold to me as a "Banana Ball" because the store owner told me the breeder didn't know who the female was and could have been many. Guess they just lost track of who the male bred with. I'm trying to get the gene info of the male.

Might it just be a 2-gene, banana/cg + pastel? Obviously I won't see anything that's Het. So there might be something sneaky in there lol.

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if it was sold as a Banana then it is a Banana until proven otherwise, but with green eyes and the blushing on the dorsal i'd bet money on Banana Pastel.

Whats the best way to reverse engineer all its traits/genes? Breeding to a normal ball?

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Whats the best way to reverse engineer all its traits/genes? Breeding to a normal ball?

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yes, but buying from a reputable breeder would have saved you a few steps (and years). :gj:

Hahaha definitely!!!

I knew the store owner and she had just gotten this one a month prior, and brought it to Repticon as its first "outing" and i fell in love. I couldn't help it!!!

The owner and employees were throwing out things like butter, enchi-lesser, and some others. But i'm extremely novice when it comes to knowing all the morphs and how they can look so it was all I had to go with.

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Originally Posted by MuscleNerd85

The owner and employees were throwing out things like butter, enchi-lesser, and some others. But i'm extremely novice when it comes to knowing all the morphs and how they can look so it was all I had to go with.

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you're referencing Enchi, and Lesser/Butter genes. Butter and Lesser are the same gene, they just started out as separate lines. Enchi is a pattern-reducing gene as well as some color enhancing. with the alien heads i doubt Enchi. i also doubt Butter/Lesser due to the coloration.

Very pretty baby!
Lots of bananas look pastel with the faded heads and some blushing. It's the most common gene I see people 'guess' is in their bananas/cgs.
Until/unless you can get more info on the parentage, I'd just go with banana. If you do end up breeding down the line, should be pretty easy to tell if pastel is in the mix based on the resulting offspring.
Congrats on your new little one!

I see. Now that you mention it, looking at just strictly "Banana Pastels" on morphmarket. They look almost identical. Good call i think!!! Unless there's some het gene right?

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

Very pretty baby!
Lots of bananas look pastel with the faded heads and some blushing. It's the most common gene I see people 'guess' is in their bananas/cgs.
Until/unless you can get more info on the parentage, I'd just go with banana. If you do end up breeding down the line, should be pretty easy to tell if pastel is in the mix based on the resulting offspring.
Congrats on your new little one!

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Thanks!!!

For the Alliance!!! :colbert:

I didn't think just "banana" had green eyes as a trait???

That's a good point about the eyes, bananas usually have very dark eyes.

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For the Alliance!!! :colbert:

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haha!

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I didn't think just "banana" had green eyes as a trait???

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do you have better pics of the eyes? preferably in natural light?

I will be able to take them once its out of shed. Its about 3-4 days in so far so eyes are blue.