New Male hypo albino 66% lab growth thread

I was going to do his updates with trinity (see trinity my female burm growth thread also here ) but decided that be no fun so here is my males growth thread (no name yet )https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...809c90bf64.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a8a80798b8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...37e30b7a3b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...990f56af3b.jpg


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Originally Posted by Chads300

I was going to do his updates with trinity (see trinity my female burm growth thread also here ) but decided that be no fun so here is my males growth thread (no name yet )https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...809c90bf64.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a8a80798b8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...37e30b7a3b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...990f56af3b.jpg


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This guy looks awesome. When did he hatch?

Would be good to see his setup too.

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Originally Posted by Valaryan

This guy looks awesome. When did he hatch?

Would be good to see his setup too.

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I want to say June-July of last year. As of right now he is temporarily in a 20 gal until my custom 72 in pvc is built by johns custom creations out of pa. Still hissy but that’s to be expected.


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I want to say June-July of last year. As of right now he is temporarily in a 20 gal until my custom 72 in pvc is built by johns custom creations out of pa. Still hissy but that’s to be expected.


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Wow thats good growth. My girl hatched in August last year and I got her in December but she's still quite a bit smaller.

She's on rat weaners atm. Got 4 left then gonna try the next size up.

What's he eating now and do these rats look too small for my girl?

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My guy is hitting large rat every 4 Days. Can you send post a pic of your full snake?.


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Once my snake is taking two prey items at a time I usually graduate a size up. If I can remember trinity was on small rats at I want to say the same size as your girl it’s crazy how much she has grown since October lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...541cc9c738.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b656c8eb0b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d91affbd8c.jpg


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Originally Posted by Chads300

My guy is hitting large rat every 4 Days. Can you send post a pic of your full snake?.


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Are these better?

I'm feeding her a weaner once a week. Do you find every 4 days better?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f4a04de9e6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...699b0cf477.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...615b464cbf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...090fdf6d14.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ce4a37bf83.jpg

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Both of my burms we’re pushing and since I switched to every four days they seem ALOT happier and content


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Does she cruise around after you feed her? Another thing you could do is do two weaned rats at a feeding every four days until she is up a bit in size for a small rat but in my opinion she could eat a small rat no problem


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Does she cruise around after you feed her? Another thing you could do is do two weaned rats at a feeding every four days until she is up a bit in size for a small rat but in my opinion she could eat a small rat no problem


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No she goes into her warm hide after feeding. She stays in there all day and only really comes out at night.

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I can see why they exploded in growth if you're feeding once every four days lol

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I can see why they exploded in growth if you're feeding once every four days lol

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I read that it's not very healthy though. Is that a myth?

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I would try a weaned eat every 4 Days and then go up to two weaned rats after a few feedings ... and so on. Works great for me and they seem very content haha


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I honestly fee it’s a myth but that’s my opinion and I’m not a know it all but I get my information and husbandry advice and all my snake for that matter ha ha from brad McCarthy of world wide reptilia of Butler pa.


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I honestly fee it’s a myth but that’s my opinion and I’m not a know it all but I get my information and husbandry advice and all my snake for that matter ha ha from brad McCarthy of world wide reptilia of Butler pa.


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It's 19:30 here in the UK so I'm about to feed her a rat and I'll check if she's cruising around after eating. Sorry for hijacking your thread btw lol.

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I read that it's not very healthy though. Is that a myth?

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The general concensus is that too frequent of feedings produce fatty deposits around the liver of the snake and reduce life expectancy. The sources Ive asked that breed Burms seem to be inconsistent with feeding info however.

Weekly feedings seem to be the most common interval at hatchling stage. If you recieved a new hatchling that was underfed by the breeder for maintenance purposes they recommend feeding every five days for a short amount of time to get some weight going.

My feeding plans:

Once a week until I hit large rat stage.

Large rats once every two weeks until I hit rabbit stage.

Rabbits 3 weeks.


..the breeders I run into that feed rabbits weekly all have MONSTER sized Burms (you're talking some with 130lb males within a few years). The healthiest animals Ive seen are fed rabbits once every three weeks....healthy builds, not overfed.

You've already got a Burm, and you know it's going to be a big snake regardless. Why try to rush the process? Ya know?

That's just my $0.02

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The general concensus is that too frequent of feedings produce fatty deposits around the liver of the snake and reduce life expectancy. The sources Ive asked that breed Burms seem to be inconsistent with feeding info however.

Weekly feedings seem to be the most common interval at hatchling stage. If you recieved a new hatchling that was underfed by the breeder for maintenance purposes they recommend feeding every five days for a short amount of time to get some weight going.

My feeding plans:

Once a week until I hit large rat stage.

Large rats once every two weeks until I hit rabbit stage.

Rabbits 3 weeks.


..the breeders I run into that feed rabbits weekly all have MONSTER sized Burms (you're talking some with 130lb males within a few years). The healthiest animals Ive seen are fed rabbits once every three weeks....healthy builds, not everfed.


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Cheers mate I'll save this info

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Does she cruise around after you feed her? Another thing you could do is do two weaned rats at a feeding every four days until she is up a bit in size for a small rat but in my opinion she could eat a small rat no problem


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Okay she's looking around now flicking her tongue. Gonna defrost another weaner

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Let me know how sh does


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She took them both down easily. She was still searching for food after the second one lol. Gonna feed two weaners for the next two weekly feeds then move up to the next size rat

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Your not hi jacking at all lol I like seeing and hearing from other Burmese owners . And I figured she would lol congrats

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The general concensus is that too frequent of feedings produce fatty deposits around the liver of the snake and reduce life expectancy. The sources Ive asked that breed Burms seem to be inconsistent with feeding info however.

Weekly feedings seem to be the most common interval at hatchling stage. If you recieved a new hatchling that was underfed by the breeder for maintenance purposes they recommend feeding every five days for a short amount of time to get some weight going.

My feeding plans:

Once a week until I hit large rat stage.

Large rats once every two weeks until I hit rabbit stage.

Rabbits 3 weeks.


..the breeders I run into that feed rabbits weekly all have MONSTER sized Burms (you're talking some with 130lb males within a few years). The healthiest animals Ive seen are fed rabbits once every three weeks....healthy builds, not overfed.

You've already got a Burm, and you know it's going to be a big snake regardless. Why try to rush the process? Ya know?

That's just my $0.02

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100% on the money here^^ .. And if Rabbits are to expensive (Large Rats Frozen here are $3.50 and live $9 ) then 2 large rats are perfectly healthy every 3/4 weeks for a adult Burm. People thing a Huge Burm sounds cool, but it honestly causes more of a mess when they are a few years old. Their Body doesnt need all that food and they end up having Huge Waste deposits. To me thats a Pain to clean, a waste of money and a fat unhealthy snake. No different than a obese person. What Kevin said about the Liver has been medically found over years of research. Not sure if it takes many years off a life, but who knows possibly could take a healthy snake that would live 25 years down to 18-20. The crapping and blowing piss up the glass doors was enough for me to regulate feeding over 20 years. Idk anybody that likes a 16' snake sliding through mounds of crap all the time because they dont use up what they eat. Try keeping over 11 feet off your floor and from dripping as your carrying them to the Bath Tub lol.


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I don’t feed because a huge burm is cool I feed as brad has given instruction to also for breeding purposes everybody has different opinions lol

Im not saying that it's the incorrect way to do things or even making insults, but in a four day interval there is no way your Burm can be fully digesting a large rat before it's given another. Are you sure he didnt tell you to feed every four days as a hatchling instead?

There isn't a snake on earth that can handle that kind of feeding interval with large prey without suffering from inevitable morbid obesity. Retics for example have crazy fast metabolisms and I don't know anyone who feeds large rats every four days. A Burm has an even slower metabolism than a Retic....

She spent the whole day basking under the ceramic digesting.

But now over 24 hours after eating those 2 rats she seems to still be in feed mode. Tracking movement outside of the cage and poised to strike.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e954528f0f.jpg

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Again I’m not arguing feeding habits I am doing what works for me and keeps my snake happy as for feeding large rats every four days I honestly don’t have a problem with it considering my female burm don’t even have a lump anymore after feeding Thursday , as far as other people go everyone has different information and I’m just doing as instructed by brad which is a VERY well known breeder of snakes in Pittsburgh and here to just share my love and passion of snakes


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She’s a bute is she her for anything


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She’s a bute is she her for anything


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Sorry man, what does that mean? Typo?

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Ment to say het

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Ment to say het

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Ah right ha ha. No not as far as I know.

I'm wondering if I was underfeeding her on one weaner a week as she seems more active since I fed her two last night.

Do your snakes still look for food 24 hours after being fed?

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5d7d9e2852.jpgno lol my snakes are content and chill ... still have yet to think of a name for my boy


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How about Phebus it's kinda of fitting maybe he is really a looker congratulations 😻

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I don’t feed because a huge burm is cool I feed as brad has given instruction to also for breeding purposes everybody has different opinions lol

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My reply is more directed towards adults once metabolism has slowed way down. I feed heavy the first 6 months, then a little lighter the next 6 months but all in all I dont moderate much until after 1.5 yrs old.
When Im talking about Obese Burms, Im talking about 4/5 year old burms thicker than my head.. And Ive seen several like that. Thats just not healthy but its also not my snake. You wont see me criticize anyone unless they're doing something ridiculous with their husbandry that will lead to sickness or death.


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Now that I can understand and completed agree with. I will throttle back around a year old as well. Thinking his name will be Thor man👽

Some updated pics of Thor my hypo albino 66 her labhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6a41ccb3b2.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...181cc3489c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...15df2447af.jpg


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I say name him "LOG'. He looks like a burm version of Caesar, my SD retic.
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Haven’t updated Thor in a while so here are a few recent pics of him and his new homehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...122c158635.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c8424fc286.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...88cab339cf.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f92b479700.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bdd9795e86.jpg


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Looks awesome. How big is he now and how big is the enclosure? Do you find he uses his hide still or is he confident enough to stay out in the open? Mine doesn't use her hides anymore at all.

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I would say 4.5-5 ft cage is a 6x24xx24 and neither of my burms use there hides anymore they usually just park themselves in the corner lol

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I would say 4.5-5 ft cage is a 6x24xx24 and neither of my burms use there hides anymore they usually just park themselves in the corner lol

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Yeah the guy i bought my Burm from said adults are confident and don't need hides so none of his had them. Mine stopped using hers 2 weeks ago but like you I still offer it. She's about 4 feet.

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Same here... mostly mine use it to make all kinds of noise with at night by pushing it around when the get wild lol.

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Same here... mostly mine use it to make all kinds of noise with at night by pushing it around when the get wild lol.

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Ha ha. I love these guys

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I do to lol... my next move I think is a female African rock now that I got me burms and a retic lol but yeah after about 4-5 ft my guys stopped going in hoses to so all is well

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f7c64803f3.jpg Thor just cruising his new castle lol

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f7c64803f3.jpg Thor just cruising his new castle lol

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Looking good. Is he on large rats now?

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I just bumped him up from two mediums to one large

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I just bumped him up from two mediums to one large

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Awesome. I'm going to move up to mediums once I've fed off the last small in the freezer.

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Yeah that’s my problem I’m running into now .... to many trips to my supplier so I’m going to invest is a freezer and anothe setup from John for my new retic in very near future. Also bumping trinity up to jumbos finally she’s smacking 2 largess a feeding so it’s time lol

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Yeah that’s my problem I’m running into now .... to many trips to my supplier so I’m going to invest is a freezer and anothe setup from John for my new retic in very near future. Also bumping trinity up to jumbos finally she’s smacking 2 largess a feeding so it’s time lol

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Ha ha yeah my girlfriend isn't thrilled with having rats in the freezer. I tried slow thawing them in the fridge one time but it didn't go down too well either lol.

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