You decide !!

Really for sports fans ( boxing maybe )

Steroids or 'tainted meat' :)


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For what it's worth the general concensus at the very experienced Mayweather gym is that they think he got 'caught'

One current champion says he's thought to be on PEDs


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Really for sports fans ( boxing maybe )

Steroids or 'tainted meat' :)


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Im confused? Is this your before & after or someone Im not familure with?


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Im confused? Is this your before & after or someone Im not familure with?


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It was for sports fans as suggested :)

Same boxer 3 months gap apparently.

Canelo Alvarez - MVP -most valuable person in boxing now .


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Ohhh ok. Well I'm a bodybuilding follower so I was curious. Looks like 500mg to a gram of Test & EOD Trenbone ace to me. Heavy training, diet and one 12 week cycle will do that easy.


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He definitely got caught. He needed to do something after the first fight.

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Steroids or 'tainted meat' :)


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Stimulants....without a doubt. Clenbuterol makes sense ....and that's what he just got flagged for.

He never gasses, I mean NEVER gasses with that bulky of a build....that is fishy. SUPER fishy.

Floyd was a great example of an endurance fighter who BARELY gassed, and his build made sense.....not as bulky and more naturally wired towards cardio.

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Floyd was a great example of an endurance fighter who BARELY gassed, and his build made sense.....not as bulky and more naturally wired towards cardio.

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Tough to get gassed when all you're doing in dancing around the ring. Hands down my least favorite "fighter" ever. His fights are soooooooo boring to watch. Man is a marketing genius though.

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Stimulants....without a doubt. Clenbuterol makes sense ....and that's what he just got flagged for.

He never gasses, I mean NEVER gasses with that bulky of a build....that is fishy. SUPER fishy.

Floyd was a great example of an endurance fighter who BARELY gassed, and his build made sense.....not as bulky and more naturally wired towards cardio.

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I dry out with Clen after a Bulk. Go from about 10/12% to 4/5% BF.


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I personally don't have a problem with most PEDs that are not harmful to the body like steroids. Just let them all have access to the same stuff so it's fair.

As an aside, one of my biggest pet peeves are sports that ban HGH claiming it is a PED. It's not a PED. All it does is reduce recovery time as if you were a teenager. It doesn't make you unnaturally strong or fast.

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I personally don't have a problem with most PEDs that are not harmful to the body like steroids. Just let them all have access to the same stuff so it's fair.

As an aside, one of my biggest pet peeves are sports that ban HGH claiming it is a PED. It's not a PED. All it does is reduce recovery time as if you were a teenager. It doesn't make you unnaturally strong or fast.

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Im not against any of it as long as however your competing its fair...
As far as HGH, a guy i trained with took it and let me tell you he didnt change his cycle at all and the HGH changed his entire physique. As far as strength is concerned, we never lift for that so I cant comment.


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Im not against any of it as long as however your competing its fair...
As far as HGH, a guy i trained with took it and let me tell you he didnt change his cycle at all and the HGH changed his entire physique. As far as strength is concerned, we never lift for that so I cant comment.


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Oh it will if done right. Since your body repairs faster you can build muscle faster. So it can speed up a process. That is what it does. The biggest benefit is injury recovery though. But it's all in a natural way.

Things like steroids are unnatural and cause muscle growth that could never happen otherwise and all sorts of negative side effects.

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Oh it will if done right. Since your body repairs faster you can build muscle faster. So it can speed up a process. That is what it does. The biggest benefit is injury recovery though. But it's all in a natural way.

Things like steroids are unnatural and cause muscle growth that could never happen otherwise and all sorts of negative side effects.

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Steroids like Trenbolone, the most anabolic of them all are incredible. Farmers use it for cattle. On a 12 week cycle you can eat minimal calories like a cut cycle and still build the mass of a bulk cycle without the bloat or fat gain. Ive never seen anything like it. However my blood tests came back very bad. My blood thickened so drastically my Dr wanted to give me blood thinners and my liver took a hard hit. Without any health concerns or if you were a Pro thats a addiction in a heartbeat. Testosterone i absolutely love. The only effects i ever had running 500mg to 1 gram by the end was high cholesterol. After Taking 3/4 months off all returned to normal. What stopped me from taking test was the increase in the prostate. I got away with it for 12-15 years then started having some problems that i new would effect me in the future (50's/60's) and it scared me. Most men that are completely healthy and do not die from another form of cancer or anything else will eventually die from prostate cancer. My dads been fighting that for 18 years, and thats 18 years of suffering in several different ways. That alone is what made me call it quits. You can look great and get very strong without any of this stuff, but what it gives you is almost humanly impossible since the body is 400-800 test count in a normal man and running cycles of 500 to 1000 a week and half life's of test Ethnate 14-21 days gives you 4000 mg in your system during any given point of running it.
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A bit more info on the Canalo situation ..

Golovkin says Canelo should be penalized for his positive test, and he wants to make sure he’s tested frequently to ensure that he’s clean for their May 5th rematch at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. Golovkin says he still wants to fight Canelo despite his positive test, but only if he’s clean.



The news of Canelo testing positive for clenbuterol has shaken up the boxing world, as the 27-year-old Mexican star had always had a squeaky-clean reputation before this. Of all the fighters, Canelo was one that was least expected. Of course, some boxing fans have been suspicious of Canelo since his sudden transformation of his physique before his fight with GGG last September. Canelo had never been really cut up before and highly muscled, but for the GGG fight, he looked like a bodybuilder. It was a quick transformation for Canelo that had some fans wondering if he was using performance enhancing drugs for that fight.


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I would have to go with the first picture... the other one with him all juiced up really doesn't appeal to me.
I don't really follow the boxing scene, but I do follow the UFC and the use of steroids are no secret in that sport either.. :strong:

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I would have to go with the first picture... the other one with him all juiced up really doesn't appeal to me.
I don't really follow the boxing scene, but I do follow the UFC and the use of steroids are no secret in that sport either.. :strong:

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Your decision is that ??

Is a cheat or he isn't a cheat .

Many seem convinced that he's been using PEDs for years ..


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NSAC suspends canelo. Don’t know much about what happens in these cases but I’m assuming fight is on hold indefinitely.

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Wow !!

Serious stuff ... I presumed the money men has made this 'issue' go away ....

Possible 6 months to 2 years ban on the cards for him ( unless it's an Adelaide Byrd card ) ...

GGG will fight on May 5th either way with Billy Joe Saunders probably stepping up !!

Interesting ....


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Update on GGG v Canelo ...


NSAC commissioner Bob Bennett just filed an official complaint against Canelo based on the investigation.

April 10th hearing has been rescheduled to April 18th and is now being called a disciplinary hearing.

HBO not promoting the fight until after the hearing.

Rumor has it that NSAC will be going for a 1 year suspension.


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Update

The GGG v Canelo rematch is off !

Canelo pulled out as he's expected to get a lengthy ban for drug taking ( and getting caught ) .

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Of Canelo's last 8 fights- 6 have been at catch-weights. 5 of them were at 155- because Canelo refused to lose 1 extra pound. Then his fight with Chavez Jr., Canelo weighed in just under 164.5 lbs.

Considering all of his weight issues over the past 3 years, his insistence on fighting at catch-weights, and his constant refusal to weigh in on fight nights, is it really that hard to believe that he was taking a substance that helps in dropping weight fast while maintaining muscle mass?


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