Tap Water V Spring water.

I know there are a lot of posts similar to this but I still cant find the answer. If you boil water before you give it to your snake is that removing the chlorene?
If it is then could I not just give the snakes Natural Spring water.(It sais "Bottled at source" on the label if that helps)



Thanks a lot.
Matthew:)

If your tap water is safe for human consumption then your snake can drink it.

My water here is always being weird, so I use ReptiSafe just to be sure :)

Most "spring" water is just bottled tap water

Either use reptisafe to remove chlorine or let it sit for a day and the chlorine will "burn" off

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Most "spring" water is just bottled tap water

Either use reptisafe to remove chlorine or let it sit for a day and the chlorine will "burn" off

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Anymore, some places use chloramine instead of chlorine, and that won't go away for weeks at a time. I personally use bottle water for this reason, since my town does use chloramine in its water treatment facilities.

Reptisafe always seems like such a waste/con to me. Just let water sit for 24 hours to evaporate chlorine.
My tap water is so-so, I use Brita filter for both myself and my animals.

While being inconvenient in some aspects (internet speed is a big one), living in the country does have some advantages......one of which, is fresh well water from the second aquifer pumped straight into my faucet from 600ft down :D Untouched by man :gj:

It's like my snakes have an unlimited supply of Fiji water lol

Chloramine won't evaporate overnight, or even anytime soon, like Starscream said.

I know that because I have and love air plants and chlorinated water is really bad for them. I used to let my water "sit" over night, but I'm currently trying to find out wehther our waterplant uses chloramine or not.

Most reptile keeper use tap water (even chlorinated) and the animals seem fine, but for someone that worries about that, filters or bottled water it should be ;)

Interesting...

also important if keeping fish, or air plants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CI8NnuS4vY

never heard of chloramine before, thanks for the warnings

Reptisafe works regardless of whether people think it is a gimmick or not. It is no different than similar products used in the aquarium hobby. It breaks the chemical bond between ammonia and chlorine (what makes up chloramine) thus effectively removing it and breaking down ammonia. If you are worried about chloramines then use reptisafe.

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Reptisafe works regardless of whether people think it is a gimmick or not. It is no different than similar products used in the aquarium hobby. It breaks the chemical bond between ammonia and chlorine (what makes up chloramine) thus effectively removing it and breaking down ammonia. If you are worried about chloramines then use reptisafe.

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Agreed, I use Reptisafe as well and like the fact it also adds electrolytes.

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it's tap water for us.

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While being inconvenient in some aspects (internet speed is a big one), living in the country does have some advantages......one of which, is fresh well water from the second aquifer pumped straight into my faucet from 600ft down :D Untouched by man :gj:

It's like my snakes have an unlimited supply of Fiji water lol

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but i wouldn't mind some high quality water, so if u can bottle that right up and ship it over here!

:)

I use the "let stand for 24 hours" method. After just a couple hours, I can see bubbles collecting at the side of the jug, and when I tap the jug they float to the top where they presumably join the air. My plants seem to be fine with this, and plants tend to brown at the tips when there's chlorine in the water, so it seems to work. I will definitely be looking into our local water plant though to see if they use chloramine, since I haven't heard of that before. I may also look into a water filter for him now.

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it's tap water for us.



but i wouldn't mind some high quality water, so if u can bottle that right up and ship it over here!

:)

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No problem! $0.25 a bottle with $50 shipping :rofl:

Kidding or course..before I get warned for sales talks lol

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it's tap water for us.



but i wouldn't mind some high quality water, so if u can bottle that right up and ship it over here!

:)

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No problem! $0.25 a bottle with $50 shipping :rofl:

Kidding or course..before I get warned for sales talks lol

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ok $50 shipping for 1,000 bottles sounds good to me! like Fiji Water but made in America. :gj:

#AmericasFinestWater #EveryDropIsAmerican #K&KwaterBecauseItsNotBottledInCleveland


Edit: (those are parodies of some actual Fiji Water slogans)

I personally believe stuff like Reptisafe and Reptished etc are just gimmicky. If your water is safe for you to drink, the snake will be fine with it. The same goes for shedding. If you have the husbandry right, the snake will shed fine. They dont carry around Reptisafe, water purification tablets or reptished on them in the wild and they have been getting along fine for millions of years.

If you want to buy that stuff, by all means go for it but for me, i can find better more 'beneficial' stuff to buy my reptiles.

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ok $50 shipping for 1,000 bottles sounds good to me! like Fiji Water but made in America. :gj:

#AmericasFinestWater #EveryDropIsAmerican #K&KwaterBecauseItsNotBottledInCleveland


Edit: (those are parodies of some actual Fiji Water slogans)

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Here at K&K enterprises we are currently experiencing shipping delays through 2078, we apologize for this inconvenience and look forward to serving you in the far future. :D

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I personally believe stuff like Reptisafe and Reptished etc are just gimmicky. If your water is safe for you to drink, the snake will be fine with it. The same goes for shedding. If you have the husbandry right, the snake will shed fine. They dont carry around Reptisafe, water purification tablets or reptished on them in the wild and they have been getting along fine for millions of years.

If you want to buy that stuff, by all means go for it but for me, i can find better more 'beneficial' stuff to buy my reptiles.

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I've never used Reptisafe (or shed) but in all fairness...in the wild they don't encounter chlorinated water :D or fluoride added, lead, etc ;)

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I personally believe stuff like Reptisafe and Reptished etc are just gimmicky. If your water is safe for you to drink, the snake will be fine with it. The same goes for shedding. If you have the husbandry right, the snake will shed fine. They dont carry around Reptisafe, water purification tablets or reptished on them in the wild and they have been getting along fine for millions of years.

If you want to buy that stuff, by all means go for it but for me, i can find better more 'beneficial' stuff to buy my reptiles.

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Lol, that's like saying "snakes carry a parasite load in the wild so we should expose them to parasites in captivity because it's natural." The parameters in captivity are different to the wild so our care should be adjusted accordingly.

Snakes in captivity are unable to experience a natural balance with parasites and would quickly become overwhelmed by them. In the same breath, wild snakes don't drink chlorinated water from taps.

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Lol, that's like saying "snakes carry a parasite load in the wild so we should expose them to parasites in captivity because it's natural." The parameters in captivity are different to the wild so our care should be adjusted accordingly.

Snakes in captivity are unable to experience a natural balance with parasites and would quickly become overwhelmed by them. In the same breath, wild snakes don't drink chlorinated water from taps.

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True but i have yet to see a case of chlorinated tap water actually affecting a snake adversly. We as humans drink it and have been for years and again, i dont see any adverse effects and i have been drinking it for almost 48 years. People assume snakes are these fragile as glass animals that need pampering. As a person who kept reptiles and amphibian back in the dark ages before all this eco friendly tree hugging era began, there were none of these special things. We kept them in wood cages with heat lamps and rheostats. My first ball python was kept in a 55 gallon tank with a screen lid that i didnt cover at all. Sure he had bad sheds but nothing a soak and run through a wet wash cloth didnt fix. I had him for over 10 years before i had to re home him.

While i agree they done drink tap water in the wild, they drink water that could have far more contaminates in it than a little chlorine. Ever went out to ponds as a kid to catch frogs and water snakes and stuff? I have seen some serious iron stained ponds and ponds with a nice oil slick sheen on them and you know what, i have seen lots of frogs, tadpoles, salamanders and snakes around it too.

Bottom line is these reptile companies will market anything to try and get a buck whether it is needed or not. They are praying that unknowing keepers will fall for these items being 'needed' which in most cases are not. Like shed aid. If you set your snake up correctly, you will never need it. If you have it set up wrong and do need it, guess what, an 80F soak in water and a wash cloth will do more to get the shed off than spraying it with some stuff which is like 90% water and oil or something. Same with the Repti safe stuff. Like i said, i have kept reptiles for over 30 years and never once used anything except tap water and never had an issue. If you want to use the stuff, its your choice and I'm not going to talk down to you for using it. I'm just saying, the stuff isnt needed.

Now chloramine, i have never heard of that but unless the stuff is recent, my snakes have had no issues with it. They all got insatiable appetites, poop, pee, and do snakey things fine and have been for years.

Anyways, i'm not here to debate using it or not. I'm just saying it is not 'needed'. People have been keeping reptiles for at least 80+ years as i believe back in 1941 was the first documented captive boa breeding by some Zoo on the east coast and I'm sure people have been keeping reptiles long before that. That is a LONG time before Reptisafe was even invented but also before chlorine was added to drinking water i bet too. But anyways i know there has to be many years between when chlorine was added to drinking water and Reptisafe was marketed.

Oh and let me add, they dont always market good products. Remember the whole fiasco with coil type UVB that werent coated properly to save a buck and they were releasing very low UVB into the UVC light wave. They were causing blindness in basking reptiles. I know Zoo Med was one of the culprits. So, i wouldnt trust reptile supply manufacturers 100%. Do your own research and make sure what you are going to purchase is safe.

And i agree, snakes in captivity are unable to experience a natural balance which is why i also say i bet 80% of keepers worldwide over feed their snakes which is why you see so many huge fat stuffed sausages with people bragging how they got a 10 ft boa that is 2 years old lol.

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Oh and let me add, they dont always market good products. Remember the whole fiasco with coil type UVB that werent coated properly to save a buck and they were releasing very low UVB into the UVC light wave. They were causing blindness in basking reptiles. I know Zoo Med was one of the culprits. So, i wouldnt trust reptile supply manufacturers 100%. Do your own research and make sure what you are going to purchase is safe.

And i agree, snakes in captivity are unable to experience a natural balance which is why i also say i bet 80% of keepers worldwide over feed their snakes which is why you see so many huge fat stuffed sausages with people bragging how they got a 10 ft boa that is 2 years old lol.

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I see where you're coming from. It probably isn't needed for their survival but I think if it's something that might be beneficial even a little bit and I can afford it then I don't see a reason for not using it.

I think the same about using racks. Snakes will obviously survive in racks but I don't believe they offer the best quality of life compared to a vivarium. Nor would I enjoy keeping a snake in a rack. I would also say night time temp drops may be beneficial.

That said, I do see how it makes sense financially if someone is a breeder to omit Reptisafe and temp drops for simplicity (outside of breeding) and to use racks.

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I know that is a old and tired debate but not everyone uses racks to save money or space.

I could afford cages for each of my Ball Pythons. I have the wall space to stack those 5 cages. But after years and years of keeping Ball Pythons in both cages and racks (both set up correctly) I find that Ball Pythons do exceptionally well in correctly set up racks. I still enjoy a nice display cage and I do have one. They please me. If I wanted more of them, I would set up a different species in them, one that enjoys all that space far more. A snake that is out and about by nature.

I have no problem with people setting BP's up in cages. As long as the needs are met all is good, no matter how it's done. I have a problem with people saying that people that keep BP's in racks do it to save money and space to the detriment of their snakes. Some may, but there are bad keepers no matter the enclosures they use. I wouldn't keep many snake species in racks, but Ball Pythons absolutely so.

So to each their own. If using products like Repti safe makes people feel better or it actually makes their water safer, by all means...use it. I rather see people go all out to take good care of their animals than the other way around.

On the other hand, using tap water seems perfectly fine as well as long as it's safe for humans.

There is more then one way to do things right [emoji6]


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I think it funny how this hobby is so uninformed about the physiology of the animals they keep. Unless a snake (we don't keep aquatic snakes in this hobby) somehow soaks so long in chlorinated water it might enter their blood stream by say their cloaca (not likely people, don't get crazy ideas!), it is impossible for a snake to have tissue damage from chlorine treated water because that is filtered out before hitting the bloodstream.

You can safely give your snake chlorine or chloramine treated water without harm because unlike fish and amphibians they lack membranes (skin or gill) that directly absorbs water to the bloodstream. That being said, there is no harm in removing it from the water using treatment agents like reptisafe. If you don't trust zoomed, use another product if you are concerned. There are dozens of products out there that do the same thing. Or look up a water report for your municipality online as they are all legally required to post them. Find out what is in your water and be informed.

For me I have used reptisafe or the equivalent longer than some of you have been alive and will continue to use it as long as I have reptiles, fish, or keep delicate plants

Dang...that is a great idea! So I could use it to make water safe for my air plants? Never thought of that. All my air plant forums just say to use rain water or drinking water. Or let chlorine dissipate. Never mentions water additives. But it makes sense.


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I think it funny how this hobby is so uninformed about the physiology of the animals they keep. Unless a snake (we don't keep aquatic snakes in this hobby) somehow soaks so long in chlorinated water it might enter their blood stream by say their cloaca (not likely people, don't get crazy ideas!), it is impossible for a snake to have tissue damage from chlorine treated water because that is filtered out before hitting the bloodstream.

You can safely give your snake chlorine or chloramine treated water without harm because unlike fish and amphibians they lack membranes (skin or gill) that directly absorbs water to the bloodstream. That being said, there is no harm in removing it from the water using treatment agents like reptisafe. If you don't trust zoomed, use another product if you are concerned. There are dozens of products out there that do the same thing. Or look up a water report for your municipality online as they are all legally required to post them. Find out what is in your water and be informed.

For me I have used reptisafe or the equivalent longer than some of you have been alive and will continue to use it as long as I have reptiles, fish, or keep delicate plants

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Also, a lot of people seem to be focussing on one aspect of Reptisafe - that it removes chlorine and chloramine. Whilst it does do this it also removes ammonia and prevents it's accumulation.

I like the fact it will keep toxicity levels low if my snake pees in her water bowl and I'm not there to clean it.

I add a few drops to my mister too as I find it prevents mineral build up on glass.

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