Carpet Python Questions

Hello,

I've decided my next snake will be a Carpet Python, they just have an incredible look to them. I don't know which exact species it would be at this point but my questions are in general.

Just had 2 questions for those who have personal experience or knowledge on these guys.

1) Cage requirements, I looked into what most people recommend, 4 feet wide, 2 feet deep and 2 feet high. I'm wondering if you guys think a tank that is 3 feet wide, 1.5 Feet deep and 3 feet high would also work? Less floor but more height.

2) In terms of comparison to Ball Python Temper, have you had any issues with your carpets?

Thanks in advance.

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1) Cage requirements, I looked into what most people recommend, 4 feet wide, 2 feet deep and 2 feet high. I'm wondering if you guys think a tank that is 3 feet wide, 1.5 Feet deep and 3 feet high would also work? Less floor but more height.

2) In terms of comparison to Ball Python Temper, have you had any issues with your carpets?

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Depends what type of carpet you're looking at getting. Some of the smaller ssp would be very happy in a 3x1.5x3, though most adult coastals would be cramped. Figure out what kind of carpet python you're getting, then you can figure out an appropriate enclosure size. On average, carpets have more of a hair trigger than ball pythons. Where you can usually just reach in and snatch up a ball python, you're more likely to get tagged if you startle a carpet python. Most calm down easily enough with little effort on the keeper's part.

Cages- either one will work. However, I believe the best overall would be the 4x2. Especially if you get a Coastal Carpet. They average 7-8 feet as an adult and that little extra bit of floor space will give it some breathing room.

Now if the tank is what you already have it will work fine for 1.5-2 years if you start with a baby. After that the snake will be cramped.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0a214d8d51.jpgLizzy, Coastal Carpet at 7 foot here in a 4x2x2 which works, but I moved her into a 6 foot enclosure.
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One if my Jungle Carpets never got on the floor in her tall tank except to soak in her water bowl. So for her floor space was not an issue. I think that this was uncommon though. But now as an adult in a 4x4 enclosure she will use the floor since this setup has belly heat.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3d45f7f50e.jpgEsmarelda, Jungle Carpet- though this 4x2x4 is not a must, she makes use of all of the space.

If you have no caging at all right now, the PVC enclosure is great to start with. It will sure make the husbandry much easier. I had tanks for years only because I was unaware of PVC until I joined here. I feel that I wasted a lot of money on those tanks. Everything is just sooo much easier with the PVC.

Temperment- Carpets are known to be defensive and nippy when young. The more you work with them, the sooner they will calm down. Also,the bites don’t hurt at all when young.

I have 5 Carpets that range from 6-8 feet and they are all sweethearts. I really enjoy handling sessions with the Carpets. They are really fun snakes. I’m sure your experience will similar.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7e9d8a0e50.jpgLizzy when she was 7 foot

Thank you very much for the information John and Reinz.

Definitely want one now for sure after seeing your reply Reinz haha. They look incredible.
I looked into the PVC tanks, just was never a fan of the look. I am looking for one with 2 front swinging doors, definitely hard to find in 4x2x2 but will wait until I get one before purchasing a Carpet.

Thanks for the help!

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Thank you very much for the information John and Reinz.

Definitely want one now for sure after seeing your reply Reinz haha. They look incredible.
I looked into the PVC tanks, just was never a fan of the look. I am looking for one with 2 front swinging doors, definitely hard to find in 4x2x2 but will wait until I get one before purchasing a Carpet.

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Animal Plastics has 4x2x2 with swinging doors.
http://www.apcages.com/home/terrestrial/T12/T12.htm

Pricey.... but worth it, IMO.

My Jungle is in a 4x2x2, and uses the whole thing. My big Bredli girl is in a 4x2x2, as she isn’t as much of a climber. Both those are AP enclosures, with basking shelves and PVC jungle gyms, and they use the shelves a *lot*. The JCP uses his jungle gym, the Bredli not much. My Irian Jaya seems to be even more arboreal than my JCP, so I’m seriously considering building him an arboreal enclosure now that he’s getting grown up.

My JCP and Bredli were nippy babies, but have grown put of it. My IJCP has been an absolute sweetheart since I got him. They’re definitely more active than BPs, and you do need to take a little care not to startle them, but they’re not aggresive. My Bredli even seems to be getting over some of her extreme head-shy-ness.


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Hamsnacks- one of prettiest Carpets are the Jungles with bright yellow and black. John1982, the first reply to your post, breeds exceptional looking Jungles. It would be worth your while you contact him if you might be considering a Jungle.

The previous picture of my Jungle may be confusing. She lost the little bit of yellow she had, which is rare. Usually, they only get brighter.

I do have another Jungle that is bright, but my phone camera and poor house lighting do not pick it up.

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The Sundance Kid, Jungle Carpet, yellow is not captured by my camera.

Yeah will definitely be going 4x2x2 to start and then depending on the snakes movement go bigger if needed. I definitely agree with you Reinz, the black and yellow look incredible, but I am also a fan of the dark colors. Its kinda childish but I think I like the look so much cause they look like they'd be dangerous snakes or a snake you'd want to avoid if you ever saw in the wild haha they just look like a "real" snake if that makes sense. Plus I was initially thinking Ball Python, but something about their heat sensors/pits that kinda get to me, its that trypophobia kicking in.

Thanks again for all the help!

Carpets do have heat pits too - here’s a nice head shot of Bruce, my JCP, showing off his:

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I don't mind them on other snakes, I think it's just cause they are so visible and open on the Ball Python that gets to me lol. But still beautiful snakes.

I own one carpet, an IJ / Jungle jag. Mine is in a 4'x2'x18" pvc enclosure from animal plastics (sliding glass, locking doors, basking shelf). He uses the shelf and climbing space (branches) more than the floor space, but he will soak in his large water bowl and use his ground-level hides occasionally. Jungles and IJs tend to stay smaller than coastals, so a 3' long cage that is taller would suit those types better.

As for temperament, defensive / nippy and flighty as babies.. They grow out of this if handled properly. I still use a hook to let mine known that I am going to pick him up (stroke him first) and he is still flighty as an adult, but does not bite.

As an aside, if you are going to be doing a lot of handling, you might want to avoid getting a jag morph. Mine has balance issues that show when being handled, but can function normally in his cage.

So I am talking with a guy who needs to let his 5 Year old Jungle Carpet python go, she only eats live, he says she's extremely calm and loves to be handled. Cage size is 54" Long x 22" Deep x 25" Height

Just wondering if you guy's had any tips, of course I'm going to ask him the same questions but from my experience with other owners, they may have a way of doing something but it may be the wrong way of doing it lol.

1) In terms of substrate, I read a lot of guys use the Orchid bark. For my Corn Snake, I use the Eco Earth Coconut Fiber, I like the color plus I find it very easy for the snake to navigate through. But then a lot of other guys simply use newspaper because they say, "Have you ever cleaned poop from a large snake, good luck if its not on newspaper" Any opinions on that? I just don't like the look of newspaper but I am so used to the Corn and how easy it is to clean its droppings once a week with a single paper towel.

2) Since it only eats live mice, would you recommend inside her tank or in a separate one? Also how many mice and how often?

3) Do you put your snakes in water often, like in the tub?

At 5 years I'm assuming she's now full grown correct?

Thanks in advance. I have attached 3 pictures.

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So I am talking with a guy who needs to let his 5 Year old Jungle Carpet python go, she only eats live, he says she's extremely calm and loves to be handled. Cage size is 54" Long x 22" Deep x 25" Height

Just wondering if you guy's had any tips, of course I'm going to ask him the same questions but from my experience with other owners, they may have a way of doing something but it may be the wrong way of doing it lol.

1) In terms of substrate, I read a lot of guys use the Orchid bark. For my Corn Snake, I use the Eco Earth Coconut Fiber, I like the color plus I find it very easy for the snake to navigate through. But then a lot of other guys simply use newspaper because they say, "Have you ever cleaned poop from a large snake, good luck if its not on newspaper" Any opinions on that? I just don't like the look of newspaper but I am so used to the Corn and how easy it is to clean its droppings once a week with a single paper towel.

2) Since it only eats live mice, would you recommend inside her tank or in a separate one? Also how many mice and how often?

3) Do you put your snakes in water often, like in the tub?

At 5 years I'm assuming she's now full grown correct?

Thanks in advance. I have attached 3 pictures.

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https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/v7CpHSN.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/joT8PB7.jpg
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You can use eco earth, I used it for one of mine and it worked well for the most part. I prefer Cypress mulch.
Feed inside the enclosure, No reason to move the snake. And I'd feed as many mice as it would take to weigh about as much as a rat she'd take at that size.
I don't soak my snakes, they don't need it and it's just more stressful than anything. And she should be at adult size at 5 years.

That’s a nice size enclosure. Don’t move to feed. Watch out for yourself, too, mouse bites hurt worse than snake bites, IMO.

My carpets have aspen, a fairly good layer, so when they go I can usually just take out a handful. I’ve got several snakes on Eco-Earth, same thing for cleanup. Go ahead and try it, if you don’t like it, try something else - you aren’t locked in to one thing.

All three of my carpets are easy feeders, that happily take mice or rats, and the bigger two chicks or rabbit kits (just haven’t offered either to the third one yet, I expect no problems), so I’d give switching to f/t a try. YMMV. My big Bredli and the JCP get medium or small rats every two weeks, the IJCP is on the same schedule, but weaned rats or adult mice. I just re-stocked on rabbit kits, I need to look at the sizes to see if they will be getting one or two on rabbit weeks, or combination of a kit and a rat, mouse, or chick.

I put my JCP in the tub once when he’d been playing Poocasso. He cruised around periscoping, didn’t seem to mind a bit. My IJCP loves to sit in his water dish (need to give him a bigger one), he’d probably enjoy the tub, but I haven’t tried it.


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Thank you for the responses guys, very appreciated! Extremely excited to get her this week.

Turns out I assumed he meant live mice but I guess she used to eat F/T and 2 years ago suddenly stopped and his supplier moved so now he feeds her live Hamsters.

So I will definitely be trying to change her diet, especially since I heard hamsters can have a harsh bite and I wouldn't know how to prekill a hamster lol. Plus he says she sometimes eats once every 2 weeks or once a month, maybe she isn't a fan of hamsters.

I won't have access to rats, so would 2 large mice work every 2 weeks?

Thanks

I usually feed my adult carpets a medium or large rat every 2-3 weeks. Two jumbo mice is almost the equivalent of a medium rat.

There are some good archived threads here and more current worth looking at.

Check this one out.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...Better-Than-TV!

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Thank you for the responses guys, very appreciated! Extremely excited to get her this week.

Turns out I assumed he meant live mice but I guess she used to eat F/T and 2 years ago suddenly stopped and his supplier moved so now he feeds her live Hamsters.

So I will definitely be trying to change her diet, especially since I heard hamsters can have a harsh bite and I wouldn't know how to prekill a hamster lol. Plus he says she sometimes eats once every 2 weeks or once a month, maybe she isn't a fan of hamsters.

I won't have access to rats, so would 2 large mice work every 2 weeks?

Thanks

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Congrats on your new Carpet!

Sorry, I’m from the “I don’t buy it Camp” when folks say this snake will ONLY eat this or that.

I have 9 snakes, all but one were preowned when I got them. For more than half of them I was told, “they only eat live”, or “they only eat live mice”, “don’t waste your time trying to switch them, it won’t happen”.

Well guess what? They were all switched to frozen rats within a month of two. No secret here, or extra brains, just determination on my part. There are plenty of threads here with tips. Just follow through with them. Your snake will not starve itself to death.

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Etta with a Large frozen rat. Far cry from “ live mice only”.

Totally agree with you Reinz. I got her today, great looking snake, definitely more active already then what I'm typically used to with other snakes.

1 thing I can never understand is how people can claim their tank is clean but is a complete mess. So just letting her settle in for 24 hours but then going to have to move her and do a complete clean of the tank, likely some hot water with a small amount of bleach.
He gave me some live Hamsters as well, plan is to just have her eat them and then try live mice and if that goes well then move on to frozen mice/rats. Take it slow, week by week.

She does hiss that's for sure lol, but most likely stressed from the car and the move. But hopefully all goes well!

Thanks again for the help everyone.

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I own one carpet, an IJ / Jungle jag. Mine is in a 4'x2'x18" pvc enclosure from animal plastics (sliding glass, locking doors, basking shelf). He uses the shelf and climbing space (branches) more than the floor space, but he will soak in his large water bowl and use his ground-level hides occasionally. Jungles and IJs tend to stay smaller than coastals, so a 3' long cage that is taller would suit those types better.

As for temperament, defensive / nippy and flighty as babies.. They grow out of this if handled properly. I still use a hook to let mine known that I am going to pick him up (stroke him first) and he is still flighty as an adult, but does not bite.

As an aside, if you are going to be doing a lot of handling, you might want to avoid getting a jag morph. Mine has balance issues that show when being handled, but can function normally in his cage.

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With regard to Jag neuro issues, how prevalent is it, and is there a way to "test" for it by handling? There's a Bredl Jag at a local sho that i am slightly obsessed with. i haven't handle her b/c i'm still trying to convince my wife and i don't want to be a tire-kicker if i'm not actually in a position to buy, but id really like to know if she's got issues before i get serious b/c i am all about lots of handling, thats one of the things that has peaked my interest in carpets (i don't have any yet), the fun and active handling.

So Finally got her and all I can say is WOW! She's incredible, love the look of her and how extremely friendly she is to handle. But the thing I probably love most is how curious she is in her tank, a snake you can actually watch lol its really cool.

Went with a mix of Eco Earth and Cyprus for substrate. Attached pictures of her current set up, any feedback or criticism is appreciated, won't get offended lol. Might be removing the branch as i don't think its strong enough and adding a pole from side to side she can lay on, issue is getting something wide enough, might go with 2 Shower curtain rods a few inches apart and maybe that will make more room for her on the ground to navigate.

In regards to breaking the habit of Live feeding, will be giving her what she's used to at first, live hamsters, then I am thinking Live Mice the next time and then Frozen Mice, hopefully its an easy transition.

But thanks again everyone for your help! Incredible snake! VERY HAPPY!

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Wow, she looks great Ham. Carpets are amazing to watch, handle and feed. Your girl is pretty big. I agree with you that you'll probably need some sturdier branches and you might need an enclosure upgrade soon too :). She'll use every inch of the cage she's in. Keep us posted on your progress with lots of pictures of her. :)

She sure is pretty, I love all of the black on her. Your feeding plan sounds like a good one.

The cage is set up nicely. I totally agree with Ziggy about upgrading. It would be nice if you could enlarge it soon. But sometimes we can only do what we can. I’ve had some of my Carpets a bit squeezed in before, so I know how it is.

Thanks for the feedback, so what are you guys thinking 6x2x2? Or 4x2x4?

Her current set up is 56"x22"x26" so approximately 4.7'x1.8'x2.2'
Wife is going to kill me lol but I'll justify it by buying her something nice.

Wow, you are saying that tank is four and a half feet long?

How long is the snake? Let’s start there.

I really like your setup. Yes she looks great as well.:)

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Wow, you are saying that tank is four and a half feet long?

How long is the snake? Let’s start there.

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Tried the best I can do today to measure her on my own, my best guess would be 6.25 Feet - 6.50 Feet Long.
I had some friends come by and they said the tank looked a lot smaller in picture than in person, so maybe that's why?

Side note, when the previous owner dropped her off he told me that I should feed her immediately as she hasn't eaten in a while. Tried my first feeding today and gave up after I seen the Hamster was walking all over her and just looked like it was stressing her out. Contacted the guy and he said, "Oh yeah, she's in shed, her eyes should turn cloudy soon" really pissed me off as I was handling her a lot the last few days, should of known myself or looked for signs on her body that she may be shedding but unfortunately was blinded by excitement. But kinda happy she's not with him anymore. Hate bad owners lol, sorry for the rant, just really pissed me off.

One last question, as the weather is starting to warm up, in the summer have you guys ever took your Carpets outside to just go through the grass? Obviously supervised or 1) Do you think it'll be more stressful than beneficial? 2) It may be too risky and she might get away?

Thanks again

A general guideline is to add the length plus the width of the cage with the result being equal or greater than the length of the snake. Thus, a 4x2x2 would work for a maximum 6 ft snake. This is not engraved in stone. Everybody has their own thoughts and desires. Personally I think it is a good starting point to give new owners some direction and starting point.

Sounds like you may be close to max using this guideline. If so, don’t feel that you have rush out and get a 6 x2x2 and ring up credit card debt. Just live with it a while and observe your snake. You will figure out if and when to upgrade if need be.

As as far as taking your snake outside, many folks do it. If you feel you can do it safely without the snake escaping or becoming food for a hawk or dog then give it a whirl. I don’t feel that I can provide the proper setting so I don’t do it.

Do your carpets go for an extended period of time without eating?

The owner said she would be staving by now and hasn't eaten in 2 weeks. Then said she was in shed. It's been about a week since I've owned her, she has no cloudiness in her eyes, and still refuses to eat. These hamsters are starting to get their cage smelling bad and I don't want them in the house lol but is this normal Carpet Behavior?

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Do your carpets go for an extended period of time without eating?

The owner said she would be staving by now and hasn't eaten in 2 weeks. Then said she was in shed. It's been about a week since I've owned her, she has no cloudiness in her eyes, and still refuses to eat. These hamsters are starting to get their cage smelling bad and I don't want them in the house lol but is this normal Carpet Behavior?

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A couple of my carpets will take a food break for a month or two during the winter months or breeding season. It's not uncommon. Double check and make sure your temps are dialed in. If you're all good there then no need to worry sometimes they just take a while to acclimate to a new environment. I had a young carpet that didn't eat for the first 6 weeks that I had her and she was only 100g at the time. Your girl could also be in the final stages of a shed. Their eyes will clear up after the blue phase and they'll usually shed a few days after that. In any event, two weeks without food is no big deal. Try her again in a week or two and hopefully she'll eat for you. She's obviously a well established feeder at that size. :)

Fasting carpet? Not in this house! [emoji846] They will skip a feeding while in shed, though. As El-Ziggy said, she could be in the “cleared” phase of shed (there’s a pinned thread in one of the BP sections with pictures). My adults are fed every 2 weeks (unless another snake is obviously refusing), so when they’re in shed they can go 4 weeks between feedings, and are fine.


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Fasting carpet? Not in this house! [emoji846] They will skip a feeding while in shed, though. As El-Ziggy said, she could be in the “cleared” phase of shed (there’s a pinned thread in one of the BP sections with pictures). My adults are fed every 2 weeks (unless another snake is obviously refusing), so when they’re in shed they can go 4 weeks between feedings, and are fine.


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Do you feed your snakes at night by any chance? Or a particular time, closer to the darker hours? Going to try to feed her again today but every time it has been during the day with her daylight on. Never had to do that with my other snakes but maybe these guys a bit pickier?

I do feed in the evening, usually 7-8 pm-ish. Depending on the time of year it may or may not be dark outside, but they all have lights in their enclosures. I’ve fed earlier in the day a few times, but I don’t recall if the carpets objected.


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I usually feed my snakes at night also but I have fed them during the day a few times and they've always eaten.

Do the carpets tend to be active during the day as well?

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Do the carpets tend to be active during the day as well?

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Mine kind of go in phases, sometimes only active at night, sometimes day and night. But now that I think on it, they tend to get active when I’m in the room for more than a few minutes. If I have to spot clean and pull water dishes for cleaning, then they start begging to come out and play. But then there times they just want to sleep and not be bothered. Those are the times I can reach in and spot clean, pull water bowls and replace and they won’t even acknowledge me.

The bottom line, I can get plenty of daytime handling or playtime out my Carpets.

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Tonight, 3 were active and one was not.

Actually, 2 not active, Sundance (not in pic) is across the room sleeping.

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Cages- either one will work. However, I believe the best overall would be the 4x2. Especially if you get a Coastal Carpet. They average 7-8 feet as an adult and that little extra bit of floor space will give it some breathing room.

Now if the tank is what you already have it will work fine for 1.5-2 years if you start with a baby. After that the snake will be cramped.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0a214d8d51.jpgLizzy, Coastal Carpet at 7 foot here in a 4x2x2 which works, but I moved her into a 6 foot enclosure.
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One if my Jungle Carpets never got on the floor in her tall tank except to soak in her water bowl. So for her floor space was not an issue. I think that this was uncommon though. But now as an adult in a 4x4 enclosure she will use the floor since this setup has belly heat.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3d45f7f50e.jpgEsmarelda, Jungle Carpet- though this 4x2x4 is not a must, she makes use of all of the space.

If you have no caging at all right now, the PVC enclosure is great to start with. It will sure make the husbandry much easier. I had tanks for years only because I was unaware of PVC until I joined here. I feel that I wasted a lot of money on those tanks. Everything is just sooo much easier with the PVC.

Temperment- Carpets are known to be defensive and nippy when young. The more you work with them, the sooner they will calm down. Also,the bites don’t hurt at all when young.

I have 5 Carpets that range from 6-8 feet and they are all sweethearts. I really enjoy handling sessions with the Carpets. They are really fun snakes. I’m sure your experience will similar.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7e9d8a0e50.jpgLizzy when she was 7 foot

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Now that I have her and in her glass tank, totally agree with you lol, PVC is the way to go. Your tanks just look a lot better than when you see empty PVC tanks online for sale and I think that's why I avoided them initially.

Just had a few questions in regards to your tank set up, as you're obviously very experienced and knowledgeable with these snakes.

1) I noticed you have some tanks with 2 hides and others that don't have 2. I currently only have the 1 but during shedding I added a container and I found she stuck with her 1 hide. Do you find the second hide is used a lot?

2) The branches you use in one of your tanks looks really good but they also don't seem like the world's thickest branches, your snake doesn't snap them with her weight? I want to do something similar but worried due to her weight.

Your 4x2x4 is incredible by the way lol

Thanks again

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Now that I have her and in her glass tank, totally agree with you lol, PVC is the way to go. Your tanks just look a lot better than when you see empty PVC tanks online for sale and I think that's why I avoided them initially.

Just had a few questions in regards to your tank set up, as you're obviously very experienced and knowledgeable with these snakes.

1) I noticed you have some tanks with 2 hides and others that don't have 2. I currently only have the 1 but during shedding I added a container and I found she stuck with her 1 hide. Do you find the second hide is used a lot?

2) The branches you use in one of your tanks looks really good but they also don't seem like the world's thickest branches, your snake doesn't snap them with her weight? I want to do something similar but worried due to her weight.

Your 4x2x4 is incredible by the way lol

Thanks again

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None of my Carpets will use hides on the ground except maybe once or twice a year during shed. Once I put hides on the ceiling they use them quite a bit. Now they will semi-hide under their shelf at times. But the Skyhides are their favorite, especially for hunting.
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I no longer have any hides on the ground for my Carpets or even my Boas since they don’t use them. The only ground hides are for my BP and very young Olive Python.
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Even my small Boa prefers a Skyhide over a ground one.

My big Boa’s cage does not have enough vertical height for a Skyhide, so he has none.

Branches- Haha, I never gave thought to those branches being flimsy, they do look like it. However, I never have seen much flex out of them. Maybe because the weight of the snake is spread out, and or these Crate Myrtle braches are muck stronger than they look.
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All of her weight is being held by this flimsy branch. Keep in mind that it is resting against the side of the cage.

Reinz, do you takes the hides out during cleaning? Is that a pain in the you know what?

Woow yeah definitely aren't flimsy if they can hold the snake up like that. That's awesome! I'm going to try to find some solid pieces.

I wish I could do the hanging hides, looks way better but don't have a solid top like your PVC tank.

Might be time to upgrade lol

Thanks again Reinz!

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Reinz, do you takes the hides out during cleaning? Is that a pain in the you know what?

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Theses are older pics. I have removed the front clips, or have just left one only. I do use one screw with the threads filed down to act as a stop, see pic below.

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After removing the one front stop the hides just slide out.

‘’There must be a stop, otherwise during poking around/exploring mode they get behind the hide and push it forward.

They have not messed in their hides yet, nor shed inside. For that reason I only slide the hides out every few months and wipe them down with a hand wipe.

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Theses are older pics. I have removed the front clips, or have just left one only. I do use one screw with the threads filed down to act as a stop, see pic below.

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After removing the one front stop the hides just slide out.

‘’There must be a stop, otherwise during poking around/exploring mode they get behind the hide and push it forward.

They have not messed in their hides yet, nor shed inside. For that reason I only slide the hides out every few months and wipe them down with a hand wipe.

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I think I have to clean Gerald’s sky hide once a week or so. Doesn’t generally make a huge mess but a little bit here and there. Phyllis never used hers so she lost it. Don’t think the mirror clips would hold her weight anymore either way


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I think I have to clean Gerald’s sky hide once a week or so. Doesn’t generally make a huge mess but a little bit here and there. Phyllis never used hers so she lost it. Don’t think the mirror clips would hold her weight anymore either way


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Yeah it’s too bad that hides flex so much. :(

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I think I have to clean Gerald’s sky hide once a week or so. Doesn’t generally make a huge mess but a little bit here and there. Phyllis never used hers so she lost it. Don’t think the mirror clips would hold her weight anymore either way

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For a skyhide for a big snake I’d probably start with a Cambro food-service pan, and fabricate rails. Cambro pans have a good lip on all four sides, and are designed to hang from the lip while full of food. You usually see the clear polycarbonate ones, but they’re also available in black and off-white.


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For a skyhide for a big snake I’d probably start with a Cambro food-service pan, and fabricate rails. Cambro pans have a good lip on all four sides, and are designed to hang from the lip while full of food. You usually see the clear polycarbonate ones, but they’re also available in black and off-white.


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Yeah, I had considered that but Phyllis never used her sky hide once so I just got rid of it. Gerald basically lives in his though haha


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