What is the longest amount of time that a baby ball python could need assist feeding?

Lots of posts talk about how long to wait before beginning to assist feed, but I'm wondering what is the longest that you've heard of, or experienced, a baby needing to be assist fed/refusing to eat on its own. I have 2 baby's that were born in November who are still not eating on their own. One person told me that sometimes they never eat on their own. Is this true?

How often do u feed?

every 5-7 days. They are not handled besides feeding, they are in tubs with the temps proper and consistent, and they have been offered live mice and rats. Not looking for too much advice on the assist feeding itself. Looking for how long you have heard or experienced a hatchling needing assist fed for?

Normally a couple feedings. Worst I've seen is tell 200 grams but what I was thinking is u might be feeding them to well. What's there weight at? Maybe try 9 days if they have some weight behind them

Ah I see. I'm still trying to get them to gain a little weight, but when they do I will definitely try moving them to 7-9 day schedule!

Ya that's what I was thinking I was told the hardest thing about ball pythons is the patience they call for. That's the part that sucks for me.

Someone else on here might have some secrets in this area

You need Deborah. She is the genius that will help! She is the snake whisperer lol

Assist feeding should be an absolute last resort. It should only be done when absolutely all options have run dry. First and foremost, husbandry should be spot on. Second, all feeding methods and prey types should be tried. Lastly, live prey should be offered. Assist feeding should only occur when/if all other options have been exhausted and the animal is losing weight and is at the point where their health is a concern.

I had an animal that I had to assist feed for 14 months. And then one day she just decided to start eating on her own and turned into a glutton, went from 200g to 1500g in a year

Yes it's true sometimes they will just fail to thrive, and never eat on their own but it's rare. Obviously there is no quality of life for an animal that would not feed on it's own.

The longest I have assisted was 6 months, that animal became a very aggressive feeder once she figured it out.

I am curious what have you been trying and how are those animals setup?

I had one go a bit longer, closer to 9 months but once she got it she loves to eat. I would guess most give up before that and let nature take its course. It is up to your personal judgment how long to help. Sometimes, there is an obvious deformity and no amount of help will cure. However, sometimes those silly critters just take time to get it. You choose what you are willing to do.

I had a BRB baby that I assist fed for ten months. He absorbed very little yolk due to a twisted umbilical cord, and was way undersized compared to his littermates.

Three years later, he'd eat my fingers if I let him.

Thank you all so much for your stories! I feel much better about their health and more positive that they will figure it out and become the happy gluttons that I want them to be. And I would never "let nature run its course". I would assist them forever if i needed. They are my scale babies and i love them!

To expand on the question of what we have tried - mice and rats (live), recently tried a frozen rat just to try something new but zero interest has been shown. We have tried leaving the baby rodents in the tub with them overnight and they just end up cuddling (I would never do this with anything larger, i am aware of the danger rats can be to snakes!). The baby balls are in a rack and not loved on (though it pains me). Each week I hope this is the week that they will figure it out! i hope that day comes soon!

Thank you all again!

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Originally Posted by craigafrechette

Assist feeding should be an absolute last resort. It should only be done when absolutely all options have run dry. First and foremost, husbandry should be spot on. Second, all feeding methods and prey types should be tried. Lastly, live prey should be offered. Assist feeding should only occur when/if all other options have been exhausted and the animal is losing weight and is at the point where their health is a concern.

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I agree completely! Unfortunately, my girls were becoming underweight despite our efforts to solve the problem through husbandry. Could I ask you to expand on what you meant by feeding methods? do you mean leaving the prey in the tub, verse dangling with tongs?

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Originally Posted by Kindred526

I agree completely! Unfortunately, my girls were becoming underweight despite our efforts to solve the problem through husbandry. Could I ask you to expand on what you meant by feeding methods? do you mean leaving the prey in the tub, verse dangling with tongs?

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What I meant by different feeding methods was: different prey items of suitable sizes (mice and rats), offering different times of day, offering on tongs vs leaving the prey, different defrosting methods if trying F/T, trying F/T Or pre-killed or live, braining, etc...
As long as husbandry is solid and all other methods have been exhausted and the animal is unable to maintain a healthy weight then assisting is all you can do...