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  • 02-09-2018, 12:09 PM
    Skyrivers
    Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Miss Snow escaped her enclosure Monday night and I found her Tuesday. Last night she was at the top of her enclosure cruising the ledge between the screen top and tank. Very restless for a couple of hours. Her husbandry is spot on and she is now almost 600g. I opened the lid and she crawled right out onto my arm. I held her for almost an hour because she seamed to relax after being out and getting some crawling around time. She should not be hungry because she eat Saturday for me and then eat something when she was out of her enclosure. Anyone have any thoughts? Cool side 80-82 hot side 89-91 humidity 65%. 2 identical hides. Aspen bedding.
  • 02-09-2018, 12:23 PM
    c0r3yr0s3
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Sounds like she has some unfinished business [emoji16] she might have enjoyed the taste of freedom. All joking aside, maybe the hides are to big and she doesn't feel safe or she's still adjusting to the new enclosure
  • 02-09-2018, 12:31 PM
    Starscream
    If it worries you and your husbandry is correct, consider adding some climbing opportunities like branches or one of those parrot ladders at pet stores.

    Mine spends most of her time sitting on top of her climbing stuctures and staring out of her enclosure, or roaming between hides and basking under her heat lamp. She will also sometimes dig inside her humid hide, which is a tupperware container with some sphagnum moss. I've also got some fake plants she can hide and roam around in.

    Very rarely will I see her trying to get out, and rhose are on nights when I'm thawing her rats.
  • 02-09-2018, 12:37 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by c0r3yr0s3 View Post
    Sounds like she has some unfinished business [emoji16] she might have enjoyed the taste of freedom. All joking aside, maybe the hides are to big and she doesn't feel safe or she's still adjusting to the new enclosure

    Her hides are perfect for her. She fits snugly and often holds her head just out of it. She does spend a lot of time looking out the one side that is transparent.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Starscream View Post
    If it worries you and your husbandry is correct, consider adding some climbing opportunities like branches or one of those parrot ladders at pet stores.

    Mine spends most of her time sitting on top of her climbing stuctures and staring out of her enclosure, or roaming between hides and basking under her heat lamp. She will also sometimes dig inside her humid hide, which is a tupperware container with some sphagnum moss. I've also got some fake plants she can hide and roam around in.

    Very rarely will I see her trying to get out, and rhose are on nights when I'm thawing her rats.

    She might just want exercise? I will give her something to climb on.
  • 02-09-2018, 12:38 PM
    c0r3yr0s3
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    Her hides are perfect for her. She fits snugly and often holds her head just out of it. She does spend a lot of time looking out the one side that is transparent.

    The transparency might be the issue. Do you have any pics of the enclosure?
  • 02-09-2018, 12:39 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by c0r3yr0s3 View Post
    The transparency might be the issue. Do you have any pics of the enclosure?

    Will post when I get off work.
  • 02-09-2018, 01:00 PM
    c0r3yr0s3
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Ok... That should give some of the more knowledgeable members here a chance to chime in. I'm just troubleshooting
  • 02-09-2018, 02:06 PM
    zina10
    She may just be hungry again.

    They go through phases where they seem almost insatiable, and then of course the phases where they want little to none ;) That is actually normal for them, in the wild they have seasons where food is plenty (and they stock up while they can) and then long times where food is almost non-existent, and their system is geared toward that.

    Our usual "weekly" feeding is already plenty of food, which is why most of them do well on that, but suddenly seem to have reached a limit and eat less for a while.

    Some act hungry despite being fed weekly. That is also normal but doesn't mean you should feed more often. Unless the snake is young and on smaller meals.

    Cruising for more food already is quite the possibility. Esp. when they seem to cruise "with purpose".

    That is, as long as husbandry is spot on. That means temperature, humidity AND privacy. Not just hides, but having the sides, back and top blacked out/covered.

    Long story short, it can be quite normal.
  • 02-09-2018, 02:23 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    She may just be hungry again.

    They go through phases where they seem almost insatiable, and then of course the phases where they want little to none ;) That is actually normal for them, in the wild they have seasons where food is plenty (and they stock up while they can) and then long times where food is almost non-existent, and their system is geared toward that.

    Our usual "weekly" feeding is already plenty of food, which is why most of them do well on that, but suddenly seem to have reached a limit and eat less for a while.

    Some act hungry despite being fed weekly. That is also normal but doesn't mean you should feed more often. Unless the snake is young and on smaller meals.

    Cruising for more food already is quite the possibility. Esp. when they seem to cruise "with purpose".

    That is, as long as husbandry is spot on. That means temperature, humidity AND privacy. Not just hides, but having the sides, back and top blacked out/covered.

    Long story short, it can be quite normal.

    She does seam hungry. Right now she would not refuse anything I put for her as long as it is not to big. She is between 500-600 grams and closer to 600. Depending on if she pooped today or not.
  • 02-09-2018, 11:59 PM
    copper
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    I’m a little extreme but I make sure my meals are 10-15% in grams of the total weight, by digital scale. Do you weigh your meals to make sure you are not under feeding as the snake grows? Just a newbie thought. I’m not as accurate by sight.
  • 02-12-2018, 01:46 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by copper View Post
    I’m a little extreme but I make sure my meals are 10-15% in grams of the total weight, by digital scale. Do you weigh your meals to make sure you are not under feeding as the snake grows? Just a newbie thought. I’m not as accurate by sight.

    I do weigh her prey. She is a little picky as to size of the rat. She is a little prey shy sometimes. Will be feeding her again Friday.
  • 02-12-2018, 05:06 PM
    Crowfingers
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Apologizing now for the word wall:

    I personally think that they do get some 'wonder lust' on occasion. Mine roams as usual for a few hours every night, however sometimes he's more restless than others. If if is trying to make a break for it when I change his water or check temps - then I get him out.

    I have a bunch of rocks, branches, logs, pots, and a wooden frame that I drag out into the center of the living room, assemble and allow him supervised exploring time. I have an extra hide that is exactly like his other 3 that I put out and a heat lamp warming the area. If he heads directly into his hide, then back to the cage he goes. Most of the time he periscopes and inspects the 'gym' for a few min then proceeds to explore every nook and cranny. He climbs the branches and pokes in and out of the pots and rocks for 10-30 min. I leave him out longer in the summer when the room is warmer and more humid.

    Usually this calms the cage breaking for a week or two. Since winter is often too cold and dry in the apartment to bring him out long I switch up his rocks and branches every month or so, rearrange as much as possible with hide placement and all, add new textures to his non-main hides (reptile carpet, sphagnum moss, crumpled plain brown paper). In the fall I've collected dry clean leaves that I have frozen to kill bugs for a few weeks then toss them in for enrichment.

    Keep in mind that what works for mine, may not work for yours, hes in a T11 and has 4-5 hides total and lots of room for clutter. All of the wood branches are scrubbed and rinsed then allowed to dry for several months (checking for mold and bugs regularly) before being introduced. I either soak / boil the rocks depending on size as well. Everything I'm not currently using stays inside too.

    (I'm not a crazy person, but I have at least 200 pounds of rocks in my house and tons of curled twisted branches that I have collected over the years. Almost got a degree in geology so I spend lots of time rock collecting lol - since he can't break them snoot gets the smaller smoothish ones to explore. I collected the branches originally for carving walking sticks - then learned that I'm not good at carving - so they are also mostly decoration)
  • 02-12-2018, 08:20 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Do BPs get closterfobic or wonderlust?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crowfingers View Post
    Apologizing now for the word wall:

    I personally think that they do get some 'wonder lust' on occasion. Mine roams as usual for a few hours every night, however sometimes he's more restless than others. If if is trying to make a break for it when I change his water or check temps - then I get him out.

    I have a bunch of rocks, branches, logs, pots, and a wooden frame that I drag out into the center of the living room, assemble and allow him supervised exploring time. I have an extra hide that is exactly like his other 3 that I put out and a heat lamp warming the area. If he heads directly into his hide, then back to the cage he goes. Most of the time he periscopes and inspects the 'gym' for a few min then proceeds to explore every nook and cranny. He climbs the branches and pokes in and out of the pots and rocks for 10-30 min. I leave him out longer in the summer when the room is warmer and more humid.

    Usually this calms the cage breaking for a week or two. Since winter is often too cold and dry in the apartment to bring him out long I switch up his rocks and branches every month or so, rearrange as much as possible with hide placement and all, add new textures to his non-main hides (reptile carpet, sphagnum moss, crumpled plain brown paper). In the fall I've collected dry clean leaves that I have frozen to kill bugs for a few weeks then toss them in for enrichment.

    Keep in mind that what works for mine, may not work for yours, hes in a T11 and has 4-5 hides total and lots of room for clutter. All of the wood branches are scrubbed and rinsed then allowed to dry for several months (checking for mold and bugs regularly) before being introduced. I either soak / boil the rocks depending on size as well. Everything I'm not currently using stays inside too.

    (I'm not a crazy person, but I have at least 200 pounds of rocks in my house and tons of curled twisted branches that I have collected over the years. Almost got a degree in geology so I spend lots of time rock collecting lol - since he can't break them snoot gets the smaller smoothish ones to explore. I collected the branches originally for carving walking sticks - then learned that I'm not good at carving - so they are also mostly decoration)

    I was thinking some variety would help her feel better. She enjoys both her hides but loves being outside her cage more. She explores my bed and I put her away when she hides. She is learning.

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