Augustus June 2017 - February 2018

I'm sad to say that IBD has claimed my first ever BP. I plan on returning to the store to warn them of a possible outbreak from whatever breeder they buy as well as their stock.

This really is a heartbreaking for this to be my first experience in herping,especially so having to watch the poor little be robbed of what should have been a long life. I'll be throwing away what I can from the enclosure and clean and disinfecting what I can't with a diluted bleach solution, then let stuff sit outside a few weeks in the cold.

I'll be buying from a local breeder this time around if I can find one. While his life may have been cut short, he turned many people around who once feared snakes, to see them in a different light and even find them cute. He truly changed some lives.

And I want to thank those that offered great advice to me on these forums, it's probably what allowed him to live longer than expected.

i'm sorry to hear about your loss. :(

how was your BP diagnosed w/ IDB? that's not something to be taken lightly or set false alarms to a whole store about. :confusd:

Sorry to hear about your first BP. I'm also curious to hear how the IBD diagnosed, most of cases I've heard of recently were not IBD. Nothing scares me more than IBD, I've had my boa for 2 years now and it has never seen my snake room.

How was he diagnosed. If it is through testing and a Vet the entire Reptile community needs to know what store he came from and who the Wholesaler or Breeder is. IBD spreads like Wild Fire and could effect thousands that are being shipped all over the states.

Im not trying to be inconsiderate considering a pet & friend has Passed but how/if a diagnosis was made needs to be known. As far as I can tell the OP joined a month ago and I didn't see a Vet visit thread unless i missed it. A shout out of IBD is very, very serious and Ive seen (false) posts like this now and then based on a owner not knowing what their snake died from. If it was diagnosed several of the pet stores go threw importers like Retiles By Mack.That could be a heck of a outbreak.

Thanks for all the replies. The store I go to are very nice people and I certainly didn't want to go in there and cause a huge panic. He hasn't been diagnosed yet, the store is actually sending the snake themselves for a necropsy to see if it really is IBD. I honestly believe it is, though I hope I am wrong, but he could have been the poster boy for IBD, he had a lot of the symptoms.

My biggest concern was if the store was buying from a breeder with infected or passive carriers, or if their stock was infected. Sorry if I caused anyone to panic, this has just been an emotional experience for my family. If I get word of the results, I will definitely post it here.

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I'm sad to say that IBD has claimed my first ever BP

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He hasn't been diagnosed yet

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I certainly didn't want to go in there and cause a huge panic.

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Right :rolleyes:
Oh look the boy who cried wolf :rolleyes:

YOU are not a vet there are many symptoms that can resemble IBD, the truth of the matter is IBD is pretty rare and sadly too many people like yourself go and read symptoms online and all of the sudden diagnose their animal with the worth disease possible they can find, well I guess since some people do the same to themselves (hypochondriacs) why not? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Stheno

Thanks for all the replies. The store I go to are very nice people and I certainly didn't want to go in there and cause a huge panic. He hasn't been diagnosed yet, the store is actually sending the snake themselves for a necropsy to see if it really is IBD. I honestly believe it is, though I hope I am wrong, but he could have been the poster boy for IBD, he had a lot of the symptoms.

My biggest concern was if the store was buying from a breeder with infected or passive carriers, or if their stock was infected. Sorry if I caused anyone to panic, this has just been an emotional experience for my family. If I get word of the results, I will definitely post it here.

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Several things mimic IBD. If the store sends it for a necropsy (i doubt they will spend the money) you should insist they give you the results. Im sorry your pet died, I understand what these little guys mean to us all.
With that said none of us should ever make a thread/post saying something died of IBD on a whim. Thats one disease that can cause a world of trouble for Herpers.
Clean everything like you mentioned and im sure you'll have fun looking into whats next.

let's all relax and remember...

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Originally Posted by Ax01

let's all relax and remember...

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/Hl47lli.png

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Hahahahha ROFL

I am very sorry to hear your snake died.

It's actually quite nice that the pet store is going to have a necropsy done. Please note - IBD can not be diagnosed with the general necropsy. Please make sure they do a full pathology testing of the various tissues as well (brain, liver, etc). When I had this done on two of my boas, the tissues were sent to UC Davis as it wasn't something my vet could do in clinic. It took about a week or so to get the results.
IBD is nothing to mess around with and like others have mentioned, there are many things that can cause similar symptoms.

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Right :rolleyes:
Oh look the boy who cried wolf :rolleyes:

YOU are not a vet there are many symptoms that can resemble IBD, the truth of the matter is IBD is pretty rare and sadly too many people like yourself go and read symptoms online and all of the sudden diagnose their animal with the worth disease possible they can find, well I guess since some people do the same to themselves (hypochondriacs) why not? :rolleyes:

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Wow. Literally everyone else in this thread demonstrated more tact, and sympathy and still got a better point across than you. You added nothing to this thread other then to insult me and insinuate that I want him to have the worst possible disease because, what, attention? I didn't go running into the store banging pots and pans screaming the black plague is infecting the store's snakes.

I went in there quietly, talked to the manager and told him everything that happened with the snake. I told him my thoughts on it and what I thought it was but that it wasn't diagnosed yet and that it would be a good idea for them to do so cause if true, their own stock and breeder they're buying from could potentially be infected.

I just wanted to make this thread to get support just like anyone else does when they make this type of thread, and helpful advice is always a plus. But your post, was nothing but spiteful.

Thank you to everyone else though for having enough respect and human decency during a time like this to not take potshots at me, and offer actual advice. Sorry if this post comes off a little heated but I literally lost this snake today and I'm still trying to mourn over him. And whenever we lose pets, we always have that little thought in the back of our mind wondering if you could have done something better. I'll try and get back with them with the results.

I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm pretty sure IBD would have killed a python quicker than that.

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Originally Posted by Stheno

Wow. Literally everyone else in this thread demonstrated more tact, and sympathy and still got a better point across than you. You added nothing to this thread other then to insult me and insinuate that I want him to have the worst possible disease because, what, attention? I didn't go running into the store banging pots and pans screaming the black plague is infecting the store's snakes.

I went in there quietly, talked to the manager and told him everything that happened with the snake. I told him my thoughts on it and what I thought it was but that it wasn't diagnosed yet and that it would be a good idea for them to do so cause if true, their own stock and breeder they're buying from could potentially be infected.

I just wanted to make this thread to get support just like anyone else does when they make this type of thread, and helpful advice is always a plus. But your post, was nothing but spiteful.

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Sorry I don't do sugar coating things when it comes to SERIOUS allegations, nothing I said was untrue was it? YOU came here claiming your snake died of IBD not me, you could have simply said I lost my snake and a necropsy is being performed instead YOU not me JUMP to conclusion.

Am I sorry that the animal died yes however you came here claiming something that is untrue again not me, and when I saw the thread I imidiately look at your history to know when the animal came from, imagine people with limited knowledge doing the same looking back at your previous thread those people might think "OMG Petsmart snakes have IBD".

You just don't go around saying I lost my snake to IBD this is a pretty serious allegations.

On a side note looking at your previous thread I am not surprised the animal died, considering how it looked https://i.imgur.com/AvCmyrF.jpg , it was emaciated underfed and in poor condition (not your fault but not something that should have been purchased as a new owner) and then he was not feeding for you because because of husbandry issues that were pointed out even though at that age they are voracious.

BP in that kind of condition that do not get back quickly on food do not usually live long.

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So far everything has gone good for my new BP, now I just need to get him to eat! He is on (frozen) mouse fuzzies at the moment since that was what he was on at the store and I have been warned he likes to not eat some weeks, but this sounds just like any other BP.

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The tank I use is a 30 with a screen top, which I cover about 50% of the top with clear acrylic to help keep in humidity.

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So yeah it's sad but those are facts, now you can argue but I won't return to this thread so have a good day.