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Temporary Shelving Idea

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  • 09-16-2005, 09:44 AM
    frankykeno
    Temporary Shelving Idea
    Well in the unending search to find more flat space/conserve space and not being in a position to buy a rack atm, I found this at Lowe's for $80.00

    http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...74B&lpage=none

    It would do as a temporary shelving I think, is big enough and very sturdy and has tons of other uses after we get or build a rack. Is it okay to use metal? Anyone ever put sterlite tubs with undertank heaters/flexwatt on metal shelving? Any concerns about heat conductivity or whatever?


    ~~Joanna~~
  • 09-16-2005, 09:58 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Many moons ago I was in a pinch and used these ...

    http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...824&lpage=none

    with strips of 3" flexwatt fixed to the back of the shelf with packing tape and plastic tubs with tiny "feet" (aka washers) hot-glued to the outside corners sitting on top.

    I'd think that the wire shelves would allow too much heat loss "down" and away from the tubs unless you put something like rigid insulation or at least contact paper on them. I know that heat rises, but I kind of like to give it an extra "push" in that direction to maximize efficiency.

    -adam
  • 09-16-2005, 10:03 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Thanks for the great advice Adam. We won't be buying this metal rack for awhile anyways as we have to get Becky's RTB shipped out first and we are still quarantining the newer females seperately.

    Just thinking ahead and looking at options that fit the budget.


    ~~Jo~~
  • 09-16-2005, 10:05 AM
    Smulkin
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Many moons ago I was in a pinch and used these ...

    http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?acti...4824&lpage=none

    with strips of 3" flexwatt fixed to the back of the shelf with packing tape and plastic tubs with tiny "feet" (aka washers) hot-glued to the outside corners sitting on top.

    BAM!!


    Looking for the pic of mine and you beat me to it.

    I actually have that very same unit holding 8 Sterelites - it is indeed a great stopgap solution.
  • 09-16-2005, 10:11 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Smulkin
    BAM!!


    Looking for the pic of mine and you beat me to it.

    I actually have that very same unit holding 8 Sterelites - it is indeed a great stopgap solution.

    Must be true ... Great minds think alike! ;) :P

    -adam
  • 09-16-2005, 10:22 AM
    Smulkin
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Twisted and true.

    Those many moons ago did you have anything covering the particleboard (tin, aluminum etc) for the flexwatt to sit atop or did you just let it lay on the wood?
  • 09-16-2005, 10:32 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Smulkin
    Twisted and true.

    Those many moons ago did you have anything covering the particleboard (tin, aluminum etc) for the flexwatt to sit atop or did you just let it lay on the wood?


    I put aluminum foil under the flexwatt after I noticed the wood discoloring a little bit. That seemed to help.

    -adam
  • 09-16-2005, 11:06 AM
    Smulkin
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Cool beans - did you have the flexwatt running the width of the shelf or just smaller patches for where the tub actually sat?

    I'll want to scrape up some cash and give MGReptiles a shout for some of that goodness before winter kicks in.
  • 09-16-2005, 11:13 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Smulkin
    Cool beans - did you have the flexwatt running the width of the shelf or just smaller patches for where the tub actually sat?

    I'll want to scrape up some cash and give MGReptiles a shout for some of that goodness before winter kicks in.

    It was a setup for hatchlings ... 12" tubs, so the heat tape just ran length wise across the shelf and I placed the tubs down so that they sat with the heat tape under the back 1/3.

    -adam
  • 09-16-2005, 12:03 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    I seen some Iris stackable sliding drawer tubs similar to these:
    http://www.organize-everything.com/stacdraw2.html
    when I was with my wife shopping at bed bath and beyond for stuff around the house. The large ones looked like they would be real easy to make into a 'rack' for housing bps...they were sealed all the way around unlike most other sliding stackable tubs that I have seen...they had an area for heating placement....and all you would have to do is put holes for air circulation.... I am actually going to consider using them to make a bp rack for hatchlings in the future.


    DISCLAIMER: THESE TYPE OF SETUPS HAVE NOT BEEN PROVEN TO FUNCTION CORRECTLY AS PROPER BALL PYTHON HOUSING. I WOULD SUGGEST NOT USING THIS TYPE OF SETUP IF YOU ARE JUST GETTING INTO THE HOBBY. SOME SIMILAR SETUPS HAVE BEEN HARD TO HEAT CORRECTLY AND POSE AN ESCAPE RISK.
  • 09-16-2005, 12:21 PM
    unimom
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Hey Daniel,


    They have almost the same things at the Big Lots in our area, may want to take a look and save some $
  • 09-16-2005, 04:49 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    hey jo, for temp use maybe you could use particle board shelves and build a little bookcase type unit that could hold the tubs. or maybe find a bookcase type kit that you just put together and add heat.


    vaughn
  • 09-16-2005, 08:28 PM
    wendyhoo9
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    they had an area for heating placement....and all you would have to do is put holes for air circulation.... I am actually going to consider using them to make a bp rack for hatchlings in the future.

    Sounds cool, where would the heat go? It looks like an indentation where the next would stack is that it? You so have to try this and get back to us (saves us the money and the experimenting!) :D
  • 09-16-2005, 09:02 PM
    daniel1983
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wendyhoo9
    Sounds cool, where would the heat go? It looks like an indentation where the next would stack is that it? You so have to try this and get back to us (saves us the money and the experimenting!) :D

    Ya...in the indentation area....I will probably end up trying it....when I get hatchlings......so you will have to wait a year or two :)
  • 09-16-2005, 11:51 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Nice find Daniel!

    Adam, I didn't see that shelving unit when I looked. I like those shelves better than the all metal rack I found...thanks!


    ~~Jo~~
  • 09-16-2005, 11:51 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    I seen some Iris stackable sliding drawer tubs similar to these:
    http://www.organize-everything.com/stacdraw2.html
    when I was with my wife shopping at bed bath and beyond for stuff around the house. The large ones looked like they would be real easy to make into a 'rack' for housing bps...they were sealed all the way around unlike most other sliding stackable tubs that I have seen...they had an area for heating placement....and all you would have to do is put holes for air circulation.... I am actually going to consider using them to make a bp rack for hatchlings in the future.

    I have never seen anything like that used successfully. Although, over the years, I have heard a ton of sob stories about snakes escaping from those things. Personally, I'm not a big fan.

    -adam
  • 09-17-2005, 12:09 AM
    daniel1983
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    I have never seen anything like that used successfully. Although, over the years, I have heard a ton of sob stories about snakes escaping from those things. Personally, I'm not a big fan.

    -adam

    Alot of the similar setups like that have open spaces around the edge of the tub...something could easily escape from those....the ones I saw did not have that space...actually looked kinda escapeproof...like I said....in 1-2 years...if they are still available...if I produce any hatchlings...if they are cheaper than other options...if i can get them heated properly....THEN I just might give them a shot and see how well they work :)
  • 09-17-2005, 12:11 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    Alot of the similar setups like that have open spaces around the edge of the tub...something could easily escape from those....the ones I saw did not have that space...actually looked kinda escapeproof...like I said....in 1-2 years...if they are still available...if I produce any hatchlings...if they are cheaper than other options...if i can get them heated properly....THEN I just might give them a shot and see how well they work :)

    I'd just hate to see someone just getting started in the hobby try and make something that "looks like" what you posted work as a permanent housing solution.

    -adam
  • 09-17-2005, 12:17 AM
    daniel1983
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    I'd just hate to see someone just getting started in the hobby try and make something that "looks like" what you posted work as a permanent housing solution.

    -adam

    I added a Disclaimer to the post.....sound better? :)
  • 09-17-2005, 12:33 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Temporary Shelving Idea
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    I added a Disclaimer to the post.....sound better? :)

    LOL ... cute.

    -adam
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