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No scales on chin?

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  • 01-28-2018, 09:56 PM
    zina10
    No scales on chin?
    I have come across some pictures where someone asks about their Ivory BP. It has no scales right along the edge of the chin and a bit downwards from the chin.

    Not like a injury, just smooth skin instead of scales. Seems so weird, I've seen scales missing ON the head, not underneath of it.

    Anyone ever seen this or heard of it?
  • 01-30-2018, 08:01 PM
    Ax01
    wierd. i would imagine the Ivory is just healing from chin rub. but pix anyway please.
  • 01-30-2018, 08:07 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: No scales on chin?
    pix pix pix that sounds interesting!
  • 01-30-2018, 08:07 PM
    zina10
    doesn't look like a rub or injury to me ? But I may be wrong..

    http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...66203731_n.jpg
  • 01-30-2018, 08:07 PM
    Ax01
    Re: No scales on chin?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    pix pix pix that sounds interesting!

    it sounds like a new Billionare Dollar gene!


    Edit:
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    doesn't look like a rub or injury to me ? But I may be wrong..

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...66203731_n.jpg

    i would say, show me a pix of the same BP in like 3 months. if no new scales or scar tissue developed, then maybe, maybe there's a new billion dollar gene there. ;)
  • 01-30-2018, 08:11 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: No scales on chin?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    doesn't look like a rub or injury to me ? But I may be wrong..

    http://photos.imageevent.com/morgens...66203731_n.jpg

    i mean the snake could have scraped/rubbed hard as a baby; Yellow managed to rip a scale off his chin as a baby. but that snake still looks a bit young and odds are the owner has had it the whole time.

    definitely interesting.
  • 01-30-2018, 08:16 PM
    Sunnieskys
    Is it het for scaleless? In its lineage at all anywhere? Beautiful snake regardless!
  • 01-30-2018, 08:17 PM
    zina10
    No, all he ever said that its a Ivory.
  • 01-30-2018, 08:22 PM
    zina10
    I don't think he was asking because of the possibility of some new super morph. He had just noticed that on his hatchling and asked in facebook page why the snake would have no scales on the chin. I think the hatchling was still quite little when he noticed it. I'll ask him if it still looks the same.

    Its mainly me that was curious ;)
  • 01-30-2018, 08:23 PM
    Sunnieskys
    Hmm. Wonder if he knows who the sire and dame are. Lots of info needed.
  • 01-30-2018, 08:25 PM
    zina10
    Re: No scales on chin?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tttaylorrr View Post
    i mean the snake could have scraped/rubbed hard as a baby; Yellow managed to rip a scale off his chin as a baby. but that snake still looks a bit young and odds are the owner has had it the whole time.

    definitely interesting.

    Looks so odd, though, to symmetrical for a injury? Plus some of the bordering scales are there, just smaller then normal. Quite odd.

    I'm not "into" scale less personally, but I wondered if that could be some kind of genetic "disorder" of some kind?
  • 01-30-2018, 08:27 PM
    Sunnieskys
    See is pretty and now unique.
  • 01-30-2018, 08:29 PM
    CALM Pythons
    Re: No scales on chin?
    Looks like its suppose to be like that and to smooth to be a injury id think. Kinda cool.
  • 01-30-2018, 08:30 PM
    tttaylorrr
    Re: No scales on chin?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zina10 View Post
    Looks so odd, though, to symmetrical for a injury? Plus some of the bordering scales are there, just smaller then normal. Quite odd.

    I'm not "into" scale less personally, but I wondered if that could be some kind of genetic "disorder" of some kind?

    the possibility could be there. if het scaleless can present on the head, who's to say it can't present anywhere else?
  • 01-30-2018, 08:41 PM
    zina10
    Not sure, who knows, perhaps it is a former injury, but if so, he doesn't know about it. Got the snake at 123 grams, noticed the scales missing a couple weeks into owning her. She is now 230 grams and looks the same.

    If it was a injury, it must have been severe enough to never regrow the scales ?
  • 01-30-2018, 08:47 PM
    zina10
    oh, and there is no "history" on the snake, was purchased at a pet store..

    No one there noticed the scales missing, neither did the new owner for a while. Probably because its on the chin, kind of hidden by the overhanging upper jaw ? And the coloration of the snake sort of hides that as well..
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