Identifying Mojave morph?

I picked up a baby ball python and the person who gave her to me said she is a Mojave. She was hatched 10/20/2017. I was given her and the setup. Will post a pic tonight. Any suggestions on identifying her morph for sure?

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/mojave/

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

I picked up a baby ball python and the person who gave her to me said she is a Mojave. She was hatched 10/20/2017. I was given her and the setup. Will post a pic tonight. Any suggestions on identifying her morph for sure?

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Originally Posted by Deborah

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/mojave/

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Here is the pic. I think she might have some other morph going on https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...da483e508f.jpg

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the regular alien head patterns in Mojo's are mostly split into keyholes or speech bubbles. sometimes they're just floating "cheerios". they're brown to dark in color w/ blushing that rises from the belly called flames.

anyway post a pix for confirmation from our forum peers. :)


Edit: lol u posted pix while i was typing. nice bright colors on a dark background. very pretty Mojave. congrats. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Here is the pic. I think she might have some other morph going on https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...da483e508f.jpg

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what makes you think there's something else going on? does the person you're getting her from think so?

i just see a nice Mojave. :)

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

what makes you think there's something else going on? does the person you're getting her from think so?

i just see a nice Mojave. :)

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Great. I am far from an expert. I made the comment about more going on because doesn't look like the photo in the link Deborah sent.

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u have a young Mojo there and the colors are popping. those colors will mostly dull as it matures. i don't see any enhancers.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

u have a young Mojo there and the colors are popping. those colors will mostly dull as it matures. i don't see any enhancers.

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So beautiful though.

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Young Mojaves are bright but as already said they will wash out over the years.

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

Young Mojaves are bright but as already said they will wash out over the years.

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Is cool

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So now that I have Shiva (my girl Mojave), If I want to eventually breed her to produce BELs and can acquire a super Mojave male, are my chances of a BEL 50%?

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

So now that I have Shiva (my girl Mojave), If I want to eventually breed her to produce BELs and can acquire a super Mojave male, are my chances of a BEL 50%?

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yes.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

yes.

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Is a BEL the same as a super Mojave

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Is a BEL the same as a super Mojave

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a Super Mojave will always be a BEL, but a BEL is not always a Super Mojave.

BELs are produced by a number of different combos like the Super Lesser, Lesser Mojave, and Super Russo.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

a Super Mojave will always be a BEL, but a BEL is not always a Super Mojave.

BELs are produced by a number of different combos like the Super Lesser, Lesser Mojave, and Super Russo.

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BEL's seam to be a little more expensive that some of the other morphs I have seen, with a few exceptions. What is that? Also I have yet to see a female BEL?

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

BEL's seam to be a little more expensive that some of the other morphs I have seen, with a few exceptions. What is that? Also I have yet to see a female BEL?

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they're just one of those morphs that are always in demand, so their price is typically higher. also, females are more sought after than males, and are also usually more expensive.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

they're just one of those morphs that are always in demand, so their price is typically higher. also, females are more sought after than males, and are also usually more expensive.

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Females being more expensive, is this generally true across the board or just with certain morphs because it is less likely to be a female. What are typical % ratios of females produced in breeding? Are males generally more common?

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Females being more expensive, is this generally true across the board or just with certain morphs because it is less likely to be a female. What are typical % ratios of females produced in breeding? Are males generally more common?

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females are typically more expensive once you get into morphs with 2 or 3 genes and up because of the fact that they can produce eggs. the birthing ratio is typically 50/50, unless you get into Male-Maker and Female-Maker stuff with the Banana/Coral Glow gene, but that's a whooole genetics can of worms.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

females are typically more expensive once you get into morphs with 2 or 3 genes and up because of the fact that they can produce eggs. the birthing ratio is typically 50/50, unless you get into Male-Maker and Female-Maker stuff with the Banana/Coral Glow gene, but that's a whooole genetics can of worms.

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Is there a way to get I higher ratio of BELs being produced than 50%

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Is there a way to get I higher ratio of BELs being produced than 50%

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only with a BEL x BEL pairing.

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Originally Posted by tttaylorrr

only with a BEL x BEL pairing.

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I am sure siblings and partial siblings should not be breed together? How many generations removed is ideal for breeding?

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

I am sure siblings and partial siblings should not be breed together? How many generations removed is ideal for breeding?

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a lot of breeders breed babies back to their parents, siblings to siblings, etc. i'm not a breeder tho so i would leave this questions to someone experienced with breeding.

For you to have better odds of producing a BEL, as was already said, you would need one or both parents to be BEL. Mojave is one copy of a gene with the other copy being "normal". A BEL has 2 copies of that gene or that gene and a related gene on the same allele (like lesser).

Try the morph calculator on world of ball pythons website if you want to experiment with gene combinations. You will want to keep your current female for 1-2 years to allow her to grow before even purchasing a male.. Males take less time to mature than females do.

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

Is a BEL the same as a super Mojave

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a BEL can refer to 1) a Black Eye Leucistic (BlackEL) or 2) Blue Eye Eye Leucistic (BlueEL) animal. the Super Mojo u are referring to is one type of BlueEL mostly distinguished by this light purplish to grey head and white body. BEL's can vary in white's and have hints of patterns depending on the animal genetics.

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

BEL's seam to be a little more expensive that some of the other morphs I have seen, with a few exceptions. What is that? Also I have yet to see a female BEL?

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BEL's are plentiful including the females. they look great and are popular pets to keep and animals to work with. part of the reason for their higher prices is demand and part of the reason is that they are also supers or acts like super forms of their genetic morphs, so they won't produce normal, non-morph BP's.

My 5 - 6 year old Mojave boy is completely browned out just as any other adult Mojave i've seen. There is no trace of what would have probably once been yellow to be found anywhere on him. It's a shame that so many (most) morphs have to fade out and/or brown with age...

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Originally Posted by Ax01

a BEL can refer to 1) a Black Eye Leucistic (BlackEL) or 2) Blue Eye Eye Leucistic (BlueEL) animal. the Super Mojo u are referring to is one type of BlueEL mostly distinguished by this light purplish to grey head and white body. BEL's can vary in white's and have hints of patterns depending on the animal genetics.



BEL's are plentiful including the females. they look great and are popular pets to keep and animals to work with. part of the reason for their higher prices is demand and part of the reason is that they are also supers or acts like super forms of their genetic morphs, so they won't produce normal, non-morph BP's.

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I think when time comes I will do a BEL (Super Mojave) BEL (Super Mojave) pairing. That way the genetics are sure and true to the focus. I am learning so much.... YAY.

To bad my pinstripe is not part of the plan.... he is nice looking.

Can someone help me identifying a ball python I'm not 100% sure on?