Pat the baby biak green tree python

Well I pulled the trigger on one of the snakes I've always wanted and picked it up today. Meet Pat, the little 6 month old biak.
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Wow! Pretty baby!

Awesome addition Sauzo!

Way to expand the collection.

Love it!

Wonderful addition. Aren't they TINY at that age ?? :)

Watching them change color is amazing, too !!

Congrats :)

Aren't they the best. They are the most accurate deadly aim little strikers however so watch them fingers.

Looks like I have a GTP buddy on this forums now yay!

So nice! congrats!!

Holy freaking moly dude! That thing is gorgeous! Congrats and I extend all possible jealousy toward your new acquisition! [emoji12]


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Originally Posted by zina10

Wonderful addition. Aren't they TINY at that age ?? :)Watching them change color is amazing, too !!Congrats :)

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He is tiny. He's stressed atm so he's grounded and just curled up on top of his heater. he's the size of a silver dollar.

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Originally Posted by SDA

Aren't they the best. They are the most accurate deadly aim little strikers however so watch them fingers.

Looks like I have a GTP buddy on this forums now yay!

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Lol he did have good aim on the gals hand when she tried to put him in the little deli cup. He was fine with being tickled off the perch and was pretty curious but the minute she tried to put him in the deli cup, he got pissed and the biting began lol.

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Originally Posted by jmcrook

Holy freaking moly dude! That thing is gorgeous! Congrats and I extend all possible jealousy toward your new acquisition! [emoji12]


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Haha thanks. It is pretty awesome and soooo tiny. She's grounded atm which kind of worries me but I was told that's normal when they are stressed or in a new home sometimes. I was told give it a couple days and it should be back up on a perch.

Very nice :gj:

Awesome addition!!!!!!:gj:

Sssimply ssstunning sssnake!

Well i got awesome news. Pat had his first meal today. I'm guessing the new tub is to his liking as he ate 1 day after being in it. I upgraded him to a sterilite 25 qt 16x11x11. He was sleeping up on his plant which he loves so i woke him by rubbing the pinky on his side. He woke up, turned around and looked at it and then tried to go back to sleep haha. I rubbed him again and he turned around and i guess fully woke up because he snatched it and ate it. Then he curled back up on top of his plant and is going back to sleep haha. I'm so happy.


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How's the side UTH working? I ended up placing mine on top and it works for now. Mine is finally settling in after 3 weeks and I thought BPs were slow to acclimate :O

Congrats on a successful first feeding! I'm guessing pat isn't sexed due being so young? Good call on the gender neutral naming in that case haha! Do I detect an old SNL reference?


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How's the side UTH working? I ended up placing mine on top and it works for now. Mine is finally settling in after 3 weeks and I thought BPs were slow to acclimate :O

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I like the Ultratherm on the side as it gives a nice gradient from right to left. I got a nice 86F on the perch right next to the UTH and 79F at the farthest end. I just zip tie the herpstat probe right to the closest perch.

I hear ya. Maybe I'm lucky but Pat seems to be settling in nice. I got him Thursday and between being brought home, put in the 15 qt tub, then yesterday being transferred to the 25 deluxe tub as he seemed to really hate the 15 qt tub set up, and then eating today, i think he is doing good. He also hasnt even tried to bite me yet. He climbed on my arm from his perch and then fell off onto the bed as my arm was too big for him to grip lol. Thank god i had him over the bed. He did tag the gal i got him from twice though and actually drew blood from her but so far with me, he just seems to want to check me out lol. Knock on wood that i got lucky.

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Originally Posted by jmcrook

Congrats on a successful first feeding! I'm guessing pat isn't sexed due being so young? Good call on the gender neutral naming in that case haha! Do I detect an old SNL reference?


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Haha, you are too old like me. The name 'Pat' is exactly from the SNL skit character as the GTP is too young to be sexed and i doubt i ever will as i dont intend to breed and i see no need to put that stress on 'it' lol.

He's beautiful. I hope one day I will get to add one to my collection.

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Watch how their iris constricts, it is amazing. When we brought Ganja home, "she" looked like a drug addict her pupil was so dilated but now she adjusts it throughout the day and it is really cool to watch.

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So in order to feed him or her right you need to know the sex

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You feed according to weight not sex and you feed them ultra conservative. A fat chondro is a dead chondro.

Well a little update. Pat seems to be settling in nicely. He had his first meal yesterday like i said and today he is finally off his plant and perched on the highest perch next to his heat tape wall. Pretty good i think for only 2 days. I'm thinking of getting him one of those little 18x18x18 or 18x18x24 Exo Terras and then heavily modify it with acrylic top from my local plastics store and then get the double tube light fixture and put in 1 Reptisun 5.0 and 1 fluorescent tube and putting in some potted live plants in it to give him a nice enriching place to explore at night.

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By the way, your teeny one is beautiful and obviously doing VERY well, good job !!!

I love his little enclosure. I's amazing how much SMALLER they are to Ball Pythons, but they too, will grow up in no time.
It seems to take forever for the green to come in, but enjoy that time...because you blink, and its done !! LOL

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By the way, your teeny one is beautiful and obviously doing VERY well, good job !!!

I love his little enclosure. I's amazing how much SMALLER they are to Ball Pythons, but they too, will grow up in no time.
It seems to take forever for the green to come in, but enjoy that time...because you blink, and its done !! LOL

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Thanks and yeah I cant wait to see him start his onogenetic changes. Be interesting to see how much yellow he retains etc. Also in a way cant wait for him to get older so I can get him the sweet 48x24x36 AP cage and load that baby up with real plants and some sweet perch designs from Specialty Enclosures Design.

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Thanks and yeah I cant wait to see him start his onogenetic changes. Be interesting to see how much yellow he retains etc. Also in a way cant wait for him to get older so I can get him the sweet 48x24x36 AP cage and load that baby up with real plants and some sweet perch designs from Specialty Enclosures Design.

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I kept my 2 in 4 ft. Neodesha Display cages once they were old enough. Even as adults, they seemed tiny in those cages, LOL !! But they are the PERFECT snake to make a super cool Display cage. Its living art !!!
I started out with a yellow and a maroon colored one, the yellow completed his cycle much quicker, also grew bigger. I never sized them, but I felt the yellow one was probably a female while the red one was a male.
Both of mine were as tame as could be. I could handle them no problem at all. They never even took a "shot" at me. They were so easy too, if I needed to do cage maintenance, I just removed the perch (with them on it) put it to the side and went to work. They would keep sitting there like good little snakes.
I highly recommend removable perches.
Best part were evenings, once they were in hunting mode, watch out !!! I would go by the cage and their eyes got BIG and dark. So I would stop and watch them. They move so stealthily, you blink, and there they are, nose to nose with you with just the glass in between, LOL !!!

Mine shed a few weeks back now and I swear she got that much more green. I also am insane to think this but it almost seems like she gets green as she gets aggressive for food. Weird but that's the way it looks. Then again I am more concerned about my fingers than her colors during feeding lol!

Oh, I know you are wanting a planted tank but if not I saw someone use those dog training pads as substrate. Thought that was a brilliant idea to soak up extra water and contain waste. In fact I saw it on that site you gave me for accessories.

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Originally Posted by zina10

I kept my 2 in 4 ft. Neodesha Display cages once they were old enough. Even as adults, they seemed tiny in those cages, LOL !! But they are the PERFECT snake to make a super cool Display cage. Its living art !!!
I started out with a yellow and a maroon colored one, the yellow completed his cycle much quicker, also grew bigger. I never sized them, but I felt the yellow one was probably a female while the red one was a male.
Both of mine were as tame as could be. I could handle them no problem at all. They never even took a "shot" at me. They were so easy too, if I needed to do cage maintenance, I just removed the perch (with them on it) put it to the side and went to work. They would keep sitting there like good little snakes.
I highly recommend removable perches.
Best part were evenings, once they were in hunting mode, watch out !!! I would go by the cage and their eyes got BIG and dark. So I would stop and watch them. They move so stealthily, you blink, and there they are, nose to nose with you with just the glass in between, LOL !!!

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Haha yeah. Pat so far is pretty laid back. Like i said, took 2 shots at the gal but hasnt tried anything with me except to climb on me. I plan on doing removable cage perches. An outfit called Specialty Enclosures does nothing but GTP and ETB/ATB cage stuff. He prints everything out on a 3d printer. Makes anything from 1 piece removable perch setup for neonates tubs all the way to water bowl mounts and no spin perch holders.

And yeah, Pat is pretty stealthy when he's out. He was out the first night. Then i fed him yesterday and last night he was happily curled up on his plant and this morning i found him curled up on a perch lol.

So interesting how different they are from the boas. I'm like a kid learning all over again haha. I mean I've had boas for years and I know them but never had an arboreal snake except Allison the JCP but she was different lol.

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Mine shed a few weeks back now and I swear she got that much more green. I also am insane to think this but it almost seems like she gets green as she gets aggressive for food. Weird but that's the way it looks. Then again I am more concerned about my fingers than her colors during feeding lol!Oh, I know you are wanting a planted tank but if not I saw someone use those dog training pads as substrate. Thought that was a brilliant idea to soak up extra water and contain waste. In fact I saw it on that site you gave me for accessories.

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Oh yeah, I've had a few guys tell me about the puppy pads for substrate. I used ReptiChips as I had a bock laying around. Stuff holds humidity good and since it's such a small cage, its pretty easy to just scoop it out with my hand and throw in new stuff when needed.

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Oh yeah, I've had a few guys tell me about the puppy pads for substrate. I used ReptiChips as I had a bock laying around. Stuff holds humidity good and since it's such a small cage, its pretty easy to just scoop it out with my hand and throw in new stuff when needed.

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If there is one snake species I would go ALL OUT on making an amazing, naturalistic display cage for, it would be a Green Tree Python. You can go as lush, jungle-y and gorgeous as you want, and as long as the perches are removable (or most of them) its still so easy to maintain. They aren't bulldozers like Ball Pythons, or shy like them.

Truly, it ends up being a gorgeous "living picture", you can just stare at it for hours. I consider it "art" for the house !!

Lol, this is a bulldozer....Caesar the retic when he isnt fed at the 10 day mark :P That hide wasnt on the end of the cage before he got pissed about no food and he is quiet because this was after he got a jumbo rats lol.
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Lol, this is a bulldozer....Caesar the retic when he isnt fed at the 10 day mark :P That hide wasnt on the end of the cage before he got pissed about no food and he is quiet because this was after he got a jumbo rats lol.
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LOL, they sure like to re-arrange, don't they ? He definitely DOES beat a Ball Python!!!

I always smile to myself when I see those beautiful, lush and pretty setups for Ball Pythons. They are wonderful and pretty while the snake is young. When mine got older and bigger, though, ...sheesh!! I would get up in the morning and it looked like a natural disaster happened overnight. Plants torn down and ripped off from where-ever they were before. The ones that were fastened well, were flat like pancakes with leaves torn off. The pretty naturalistic water dish was full of the pretty substrate. Everything moved around. And the snake? Nowhere to be seen (back in its hide after a job well done)


I still like the display cage for my large male, but I have learned that it has to be somewhat simplistic and easy to maintain!

For a GTP, though, oh man...you can go WILD making it beautiful !!! Between you and SDA I'm getting tempted again, sigh... ;)

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LOL, they sure like to re-arrange, don't they ? He definitely DOES beat a Ball Python!!!

I always smile to myself when I see those beautiful, lush and pretty setups for Ball Pythons. They are wonderful and pretty while the snake is young. When mine got older and bigger, though, ...sheesh!! I would get up in the morning and it looked like a natural disaster happened overnight. Plants torn down and ripped off from where-ever they were before. The ones that were fastened well, were flat like pancakes with leaves torn off. The pretty naturalistic water dish was full of the pretty substrate. Everything moved around. And the snake? Nowhere to be seen (back in its hide after a job well done)


I still like the display cage for my large male, but I have learned that it has to be somewhat simplistic and easy to maintain!

For a GTP, though, oh man...you can go WILD making it beautiful !!! Between you and SDA I'm getting tempted again, sigh... ;)

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Haha yeah Dottie used to flatten plants and break her vines which i dont know how she did it. And yup, come morning all you saw was her in a hide all nice and quiet lol. I keep all their cages simple now but the GTP i kinf of want to add the plants but still keep the floor simple so i can easily spot poops and pisses and clean them right up.

And you're getting tempted??!! Heck I'm already planning out my next GTP...maybe a nice sorong!! :)

And I'm already planning the cage for Pat. Thinking either an Exo Terra 12x12x18 or 18x18x18 or 18x18x24 and then get a couple of those suction cup gecko food holders and stick them up by the high perches for elevated water bowls and have the big water bowl on the floor. Just not sure what size cage i should go for. I know they dont really need the height and use the length more since they are more horizontal on the tree tops and not really climbing the trunks of trees up and down lol. Thats why im kind of leaning towards a 18x18x18.

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Haha yeah Dottie used to flatten plants and break her vines which i dont know how she did it. And yup, come morning all you saw was her in a hide all nice and quiet lol. I keep all their cages simple now but the GTP i kinf of want to add the plants but still keep the floor simple so i can easily spot poops and pisses and clean them right up.

And you're getting tempted??!! Heck I'm already planning out my next GTP...maybe a nice sorong!! :)

And I'm already planning the cage for Pat. Thinking either an Exo Terra 12x12x18 or 18x18x18 or 18x18x24 and then get a couple of those suction cup gecko food holders and stick them up by the high perches for elevated water bowls and have the big water bowl on the floor. Just not sure what size cage i should go for. I know they dont really need the height and use the length more since they are more horizontal on the tree tops and not really climbing the trunks of trees up and down lol. Thats why im kind of leaning towards a 18x18x18.

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Half the fun is planning everything out :) I think some sort of coco substrate looks best in a GTP setup. Holds humidity well, looks awesome, no smell and easy to clean.

My GTP's enjoyed drinking from their own skin folds as well as the droplets on the plants, after a nice misting :) But they also used their water dish. They really are to much fun to observe, even when they are just "sitting around" :)

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Lol, this is a bulldozer....Caesar the retic when he isnt fed at the 10 day mark :P That hide wasnt on the end of the cage before he got pissed about no food and he is quiet because this was after he got a jumbo rats lol.
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Big boy has got to eat ,😊 besides who could get upset with that fabulous face, still waiting for you to get an ugly noodle but you always mange to get breathtaking critters lol 😉

This thread has now been re-opened and cleaned up this is will be my LAST WARNING, if the drama that has involved a few individual over the past few weeks continues here or elsewhere, those threads will be locked PERMANENTLY and CUSTOM INFRACTIONS will be handed out. You all are adults and if you cannot play well with others just do not play at all or be ready for the consequences.

Now back to our regular programming.

I’ve got a couple of the Exo-Terras sitting in storage, wish I had a teleporter! [emoji4]


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Seeing all those awesome GTP pictures really makes me wish I still had all my pictures!!!

I used to have a TON of reptile pictures. There were my GTP's, brazilian rainbow boa, rubber boas, my Borneo python, my huge 4500 gr. rescue Ball Python and her clutch, so many cool pictures. I had awesome pictures of handling my GTP's !!

Back then many people (incl. me) used a certain picture hosting website. I stored ALL my reptile pictures on there. One day out of nowhere it went "bust". You couldn't even get to the pictures to save them elsewhere. They "offered" to release the pictures to their owners on a Photo CD for the fee of $50 or thereabouts.

Most people figured it was a scam and didn't do it. I was unsure of what to do and waited to long. Pictures were lost forever, it still hurts me to think about it. Every so often I google my old usernames for forums and the names of the snakes, if there are some pictures somewhere that ended up saved somehow. But no luck.

My 2 GTP's were to cute, I loved having a red and a yellow one, they looked so different as hatchlings and during their "change". Of course...both ended up green ;)

Please keep these threads going, with stories and pictures, I really did enjoy keeping GTP's and live vicariously through you all...

You want GTP pics? Have a GTP pic on me!

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You want GTP pics? Have a GTP pic on me!

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i'm obsessed with both of yours. [emoji7][emoji7][emoji7]

it's going to be so fun watching them both grow!

Wow, that’s a crazy bright pattern. I like the more normal green ones. I am a purist as far as only having ball pythons, BUT before I bought my first Ball, I came very close to buying a gorgeous green tree python complete with a breath-taking dimly lit glass display case on Craigslist.
Now that I know how much the display is worth and how much the snake costs, I am kicking myself for not grabbing the deal, it was pretty cheap.
I have already decided about a year ago, that if I ever venture beyond royals, it will most certainly be a GTP.


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It's in the process of turning green. It won't stay that yellow and busy.


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Yup. all green tree pythons unless a mutation aka morph that has an abnormal color phase will eventually turn green. Regardless of starting yellow or red. There are a few morphs that are blue or high yellow and the sarong locality normally has blue hues in the pattern but all normal green tree pythons end up green.

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Yup. all green tree pythons unless a mutation aka morph that has an abnormal color phase will eventually turn green. Regardless of starting yellow or red. There are a few morphs that are blue or high yellow and the sarong locality normally has blue hues in the pattern but all normal green tree pythons end up green.

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do you have any sites or articles on the color change or GTP morphs? i'm very ignorant and eager to learn!!!

Well, i decided the tub had to go. Couldnt see Pat or anything. Whats the point in a display animal if i cant display it!! :P So here is Pat's new digs. It's an 18x18x18 Zoo Med. He seems to like it as he was more than happy to go up to the top perch when i showed it to him while on his other perch. He then promoted to eat another pinkie mouse and now is back to sleeping under the heat.
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Gorgeous! Such a well adjusted little cutie [emoji4]


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lol Mr. Minimalist cage guy made a rainforest cage! ;) Looks awesome dude!

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lol Mr. Minimalist cage guy made a rainforest cage! ;) Looks awesome dude!

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Lol well it is still kind of minimalist. The floor is just damp paper towels to make poop and pee easy to spot and clean up lol. I couldnt have a GTP without going with a nice planted cage :D

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Lol well it is still kind of minimalist. The floor is just damp paper towels to make poop and pee easy to spot and clean up lol. I couldnt have a GTP without going with a nice planted cage :D

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The funny thing is that this picture makes it look like "snake in a huge, 4 ft x 4ft cage" when in reality its "tiny" snake in a small cage. LOL