Hybrids

What is your take one creating hybrids such as http://roussisreptiles.com/collectio...lls/super.html

and which is your favorite?

I think that hybrids are wrong,unless the animals breeding actually could meet in the wild.

I personally think hybrids are neat, obviously alot of care and knowledge is put into them to produce viable offspring. Not to pick on bpkid but the frame of mind ..only if they met in the wild is not really a solid reason to dislike the act. I would assume then that people who think this also feel that every other aspect of keeping animals should reflect what happens in nature?? When keeping these animals goes against all things natural itself I can't justifiably say it is wrong to create hybrids.

Again nothing personal to the above comment in anyway...just thoughts on the subject.

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Originally Posted by TekWarren

I personally think hybrids are neat, obviously alot of care and knowledge is put into them to produce viable offspring. Not to pick on bpkid but the frame of mind ..only if they met in the wild is not really a solid reason to dislike the act. I would assume then that people who think this also feel that every other aspect of keeping animals should reflect what happens in nature?? When keeping these animals goes against all things natural itself I can't justifiably say it is wrong to create hybrids.

Again nothing personal to the above comment in anyway...just thoughts on the subject.

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You're not picking on me,just making a good point. :)

In a rare spirit of goofyness, I have this to say about hybrids ...

My good friend Carl Spackler created a hybrid consisting of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia.

FWIW, Carl looped for the Dalai Lama ... he's a very cool guy.

-adam

ive also seen angolan x ball hybrids. i think as long as the hybrids are breed to other hybrids and are not released back to Africa into the wild population im ok with it. i also like TekWarren think hybrids(espescially ball python hybrids) are cool.

i believe that if there is nothing physically wrong with the animal and it is going to have a very good life span and it is not released into the wild and it is cared for properly. then i see no physical problems but it still doesnt make it right and it doesnt make it wrong. i have seen some bcc x bci red tail boas.and they were A ok.

i agree, i forgot to add if they are healthy and happy

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

My good friend Carl Spackler created a hybrid consisting of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia.

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LOL. You know, I tried that hybrid on my front lawn. Strangest thing... my neighbors keep wanting to mow my lawn now.

Seriously, I don't see any problem whatsoever with hybrids. I'm not sure why people get their panties in a bunch about it being unnatural and such. Almost every morph out there is unnatural, but they're still cool and are probably treated better than most pets given their prices. As long as the animals don't suffer (like a venomoid) , aren't physically handicapped (like the Derma) then I say go for it.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

LOL. You know, I tried that hybrid on my front lawn. Strangest thing... my neighbors keep wanting to mow my lawn now.

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LMAO!! ... If that's the case, why exactly am I the one sending you a package???? :P :twisted:

-adam

I don't care for the Natural/unatural part really ,as long as their not deformed. And for the unatural part and them not going to meet each other in the wild , (now don't anyone get pissed or anything this is just a point.) Ball Pythons don't live in cages or meet Rats in Africa. Again just a point.

The Ball x Blood looks tight. What would be better, purchasing one or creating one. (i won't mind having a blood )

for anyone whos never seen an Angolan x ball hybrid this is it http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ball_angolan.html i personally prefer the blood

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

LMAO!! ... If that's the case, why exactly am I the one sending you a package???? :P :twisted:

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How else do you expect me to keep my neighbors off my lawn? One look at my bright yellow snakes, and they'll think twice about bogarting my turf. :P

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Originally Posted by xdeus

How else do you expect me to keep my neighbors off my lawn? One look at my bright yellow snakes, and they'll think twice about bogarting my turf. :P

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LMAO@bogarting!! ... You rock bro!

And you've got that bright yellow part right ... hope you've got your shades ready for next week! ;)

-adam

Also, in the spiritness of goofiness, I'd have to say that some hybrids just should NEVER EVER be done. Case in point, there's a "singer" named Cowboy Troy, nicknamed the Black Rappin' Cowboy. His style of music is called HickHop (Country X Rap). It is unnatural, it makes people suffer, and if his little mascot Two Foot Fred isn't physically handicapped, I don't know who is.

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Originally Posted by bait4snake

Case in point, there's a "singer" named Cowboy Troy, nicknamed the Black Rappin' Cowboy. His style of music is called HickHop (Country X Rap).

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Just. Ain't. Right. :bleh:

(where's that "projectile vomit" smiley when you need it?)

Hola K how do ye be?

Well it happens occasionally.

Case in point "Fade to BLuegrass" is a bluegrass tribute to Metallica - and ironically the best metallica release in 13+ years.

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Originally Posted by Smulkin

Hola K how do ye be?

Well it happens occasionally.

Case in point "Fade to BLuegrass" is a bluegrass tribute to Metallica - and ironically the best metallica release in 13+ years.

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I dont know about that, have not heard it yet, however, I had thier St. Anger Cd well before it hit stores here in the US, along with the dvd that came with it... good stuff IMO!

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Originally Posted by bait4snake

Also, in the spiritness of goofiness, I'd have to say that some hybrids just should NEVER EVER be done. Case in point, there's a "singer" named Cowboy Troy, nicknamed the Black Rappin' Cowboy. His style of music is called HickHop (Country X Rap). It is unnatural, it makes people suffer, and if his little mascot Two Foot Fred isn't physically handicapped, I don't know who is.

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:no:

:no: :worry: :tears: :ohmygod: :slamhead: :bleh:


And that sums it up for this "HickHop"

-That is all

I thought Kid Rock pioneered "HickHop" before anyone else lol.

I think things have gone slightly off topic :P I'm just curios on what other people's honest oppinions are of the hybrid reptile projects.

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Originally Posted by TekWarren

I think things have gone slightly off topic :P I'm just curios on what other people's honest oppinions are of the hybrid reptile projects.

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Cool. As long as the animal does not suffer or is deformed. I want to learn how to make a blood x ball. Might be a future project. I dunno , but it is cool.

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Originally Posted by HelicopterPilot

Might be a future project.

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LMAO ... don't you usually have to have a "current" project before you start thinking about "future" projects?

-adam

Hey, Helicopter Pilot, I'm from Tracy originally, and still work there even though I live in Modesto. Weird, huh?

I personally like the hybrids, besides anyone who ownes a domestic dog probably has a hybrid.

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Originally Posted by Topher

I personally like the hybrids, besides anyone who ownes a domestic dog probably has a hybrid.

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all dogs are actually the same species.

The looks are what are called breeds. Amazing the variety of dogs. And we humans thought that we look very different from each other.

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Originally Posted by HelicopterPilot

all dogs are actually the same species.

The looks are what are called breeds. Amazing the variety of dogs. And we humans thought that we look very different from each other.

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Good point, I was just thinking that we wouldn't have some of the goofy breeds without the help of humans.

Has anyone produced a "hybrid morph" yet?

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Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls

Has anyone produced a "hybrid morph" yet?

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I don't think they have produced a hybrid morph with ball pythons.....but it has been done with other pythons...

I think this page has some info:
http://www.highendherps.com/wst_page10.html

....oh wait....i think someone did produce a pastel bp hybrid....I will look try to find out real quick

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Originally Posted by HelicopterPilot

The Ball x Blood looks tight. What would be better, purchasing one or creating one. (i won't mind having a blood )

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I would love to have a Blood/Ball Ptyhon, but I don't have the kind of cash required.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

In a rare spirit of goofyness, I have this to say about hybrids ...

My good friend Carl Spackler created a hybrid consisting of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia.

FWIW, Carl looped for the Dalai Lama ... he's a very cool guy.

-adam

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Well I think Roussis's super ball's are really cool.
ADAM!! haha caddyshack FTW!! I <3 caddy shack

Now one time in India I caddied for the Dalai Lama yeah Dalai Lama, well after him shooting the best round I have ever seen he tries to stiff me. and I'm like cmon Llama man. He goes "On your death bed you will have eternal consciousness." Well I least I got that goin for me.