PETA - 5 Reasons To Never Buy A Snake???

I just happened upon this page and thought I would share it with you guys... The claims they make in this article are ridiculous! lol

https://www.peta.org/living/companio...es-never-pets/

Man, what a missed opportunity. They could've written something on how a particular company or breeder was bad, but nope. They're just painting the entire hobby with the same incorrect brush. Such a shame.

this article has been shared and discussed here before.

PETA is nothing more than a corporation whose goal is to increase profit margins, nothing else. the only part of the article i agree with is the final sentence that pleads with the reader to never purchase a snake from a pet store.​

If PETA had their way, we wouldn't be able to own ANY animal...They just don't make those claims about cats and dogs due to the possible backlash from people that donate to them. HSUS is the same way, they just disguise it better.

Notice that the article has no place to comment on it lol...

1. Depends on the species but when it comes to common pet store snakes, most are captive bred by a long shot. 1 facility out of thousands makes it a dirty business? Now it wouldn't surprise me if they found a few bad ones, but at the same time, what happened when we looked into you peta? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/natha...b_2979220.html
2. They don't need spectrum lighting and the special diet is available at every store that sells snakes, under the term feeder.
3. I'm sure every dog owner is feeding their dogs vegan dog food.....
4. Yup kinda like the hole in the ground they would be in in the wild. obviously this is very species specific.
5. Can someone link me to the original study? I seriously cannot find it. I mean even: https://www.rsb.org.uk/component/sea...limit=50&areas[0]=content&Itemid=531

So now lets say the same for dogs. It is a dirty business we all know that, we have the term puppy mill. PETA is involved with some of the dirtiness themselves. Dog have far more specialized needs. Attention, Training, yard to run around it, need walks, ect. My dogs kill any small animal in the backyard. Dogs have been kept in captivity for before written history, im sure both my dogs would love to be running through forests also. PETA whats your mortality rates of the dogs under your care?

The reality of nature escapes the eco-terrorists at PETA, and I say that as a person who loved many of the bands that actually endorse this insane organization.

They fault the ownership of snakes for humanely producing rodents that they NEED to eat?...and would otherwise do so in the wild?

Well what about dog food? What approach do they take to that?.....canines aren't supposed to have a grain-based diet.

Penn and Teller hit the nail on the head with them.

Who knows they might be right and we might just be horrible people. Good thing I do not care what Peta thinks. Now if you will excuse me I need to go make me some lunch containing the flesh of a persecuted animal.

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Who knows they might be right and we might just be horrible people. Good thing I do not care what Peta thinks. Now if you will excuse me I need to go make me some lunch containing the flesh of a persecuted animal.

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That right there is hysterical


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I like how the last argument from them is snakes released into the wild can damage the local ecosystem. I guess Peta never did their research into feral cats or feral pigs and how much damage they DO do to local ecosystem. And the fact that snakes arent going to reproduce in captivity as much since it would be a choice by the owner where as cats are allowed to free roam the neighborhood thus breeding like crazy and the owners dont want a bunch of cats so they release the kittens to the wild.....

And captivity is cruel can be applied to any animal. You could say its cruel to keep fish in a tank when they could be roaming the open rivers, lakes and oceans. Same with dogs and cats even though they both have been domesticated. But that didnt happen over a year or two. So all the generations of dogs from wild to the date they were domesticated were cruelly being kept in captivity.

A killing cycle? Seriously? They are advocating crickets??!! Crickets are destructive and can carry disease. Not to mention how fast they breed. Same with mice and rats. Rabbits breed like crazy. There is a reason people say 'breed like rabbits'. Also why dont they go after meat rabbit farms. People slaughter and eat more rabbits than snakes do lol. And arguing killing cycle is stupid as things eat other things in the wild and have for millions of years. it's the circle of life. get over yourself Peta see how many of your supporters eat cows, pigs, baby cows, chickens, fish and other living things that get slaughter and raised in WAY less humane ways than a snake eats a mouse or rat....

As for specialized needs.....does that mean any handicapped dog or cat or bird should be euthanized as they require special needs too. I do kind of agree though that pet shops should fully educate their staff and not try to shortsell a reptile and should tell the potential customer exactly what is all needed for the proper care of the reptile.

And finally, the dirty business comment. Has Peta never seen a puppy mill? Or a cow slaughter house or chicken farms or pig pens? All mass farmed food animals have the potential to be raised in filthy conditions. They are just using the mass breeding facilities which are usually bad but if you look at how many of those are around as private breeders which take good care of their animals, you will see its probably on par with the free range food animal farms vs the mass slaughter houses.

Sorry for the rant but since i couldnt comment there, i had to comment here so you have to all listen to me lol. :)

PETA are just a group of pathetic idiots that just want attention (and money)

They don't even follow their own moral high ground. When it was "life or death" for one member, they gladly took animal product containing medications in order to survive. Something they say shouldn't even be manufactured. Can you say "hypocrites".

What I found really funny was that the article was all gloom and doom, yet the pictures were gorgeous, LOL !! Nice, well taken care of and happy looking snakes and even rodents. LOL !!!

Okay, a few rejections:
1. How could PETA protest against snakes in captivity, when they barely know anything about these snakes? They mentioned that snakes eat CRICKETS, which is completely untrue. They also said that snakes "suffer" in captivity since we keep them in such small spaces, though in the wild they don't need that much space as most/all snakes are ambush hunters, which means they hide and wait for prey.


2. I don't know if PETA actually did research or not, but I would've appreciated it if they linked the study that stated the huge number of dead pets. There was no mentioning of the actual study they got that info from. Makes me suspicious...


3. If all of mankind were to agree and conform to the logic of PETA in general, not just the post being discussed, none of us would be alive. Let me elaborate.

So, we shouldn't eat any kind of meat because they come from live animals that die. So we can eat meat from animals that are already dead right? NOPE. That meat could be the staple diet of an entire species of scavengers and carcass-eaters. So what about plants? Nope, they're food for animals in the wild such as cows, pigs, goats, horses, etc. Can we at least drink water? No, fish live in water, and who are we to make part of an animal's home disappear?

Sorry for the rant, just wanted to point out that PETA is just a name for people that use animals for attention. I guarantee that at least one of the central staff of PETA has a pet, be it a dog, cat, parrot, or whatever else that should be thriving in the wild.

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Actually some snakes do eat insects like garter snakes. Garters also actually hunt for food. I bet some colubrids do too. But i do agree, Peta overall is pretty narrow minded on reptiles.

I used to love Peta but sadly due to bold face lies and stupid human tricks they muddy the waters belief😢 how sad instead of teaching about being kind and sharing this planet with all species they teach fear and ignorance

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Actually some snakes do eat insects like garter snakes. Garters also actually hunt for food. I bet some colubrids do too. But i do agree, Peta overall is pretty narrow minded on reptiles.

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Oh lol, then I guess I should be reading up too :v

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Garter snakes don't eat insects. They aren't meant to digest exoskeletons. They do eat some invertebrates like worms and slugs. The smooth green snake is one that actually does eat insects. The queen snake interestingly enough only eats crayfish that have recently shed. The theory is that they track the hormones to find them, but that's not known right now I believe. Queen snake populations are suffering with more polluted waters.

Kcl beat me to it! Garter snakes don't eat insects.

There's only one insect-eating snake that I know of: the smooth and rough green snake. They're sorta an anomaly in the snake world though. And they're the cutest little buggers! :snake:

Saved this little bugger from the barn cat !!

Seemed none the worse for wear..

https://photos.imageevent.com/morgen...en%20snake.jpg

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Saved this little bugger from the barn cat !!

Seemed none the worse for wear..

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...en%20snake.jpg

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It took me far too long to realize you had it on a stick in the air, I thought the poor thing was trapped by a fallen branch :(

No, but the cat messed with it for awhile probably. Snake seems kind of sluggish at first. But when I took him into the woods and set him down into a grassy spot, he was gone in the blink of an eye [emoji6]


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I have my own PETA group. People Eating Tasty Animals.

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I have my own PETA group. People Eating Tasty Animals.

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I am interested in your group and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. I do have one confession to make, I have eaten rattlesnake and I liked it. I am a horrible person :(

disgusting.

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I am interested in your group and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. I do have one confession to make, I have eaten rattlesnake and I liked it. I am a horrible person :(

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I've had gator, got some when I went down to Florida earlier this year. It was delicious.

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I've had gator, got some when I went down to Florida earlier this year. It was delicious.

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I've eaten bat soup and python sate (sate is a local food serving technique, basically making a kebab then dipping it in peanut sauce)

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well, I admit to shying away from clicking on the article, I don't even want to give them a little add revenue for my click. I'm not exactly sure what the end game is for PETA, advocating for the ethical treatment of animals is awesome, even for the one's we eat, but it seems that the hard core PETA folks are pushing for farms with no animals, homes with no pets, basically no human/animal interaction except in the wild I guess, and only on the animals terms? Even a vegan diet requires farming, which requires clearing of land, destruction of habitat, killing of animals, oh and all that organic fertilizer, that requires farm animals as a source of manure. it just doesn't add up, so unfortunately, where PETA could be advocating for ethical treatment of animals, they lose me on the extreme nonsense.

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It took me far too long to realize you had it on a stick in the air, I thought the poor thing was trapped by a fallen branch :(

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I just saw a beautiful 12' Green snake and wanted one :)


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I'm sure everyone here knows how wrong every single point in that article is, I'm actually just the extreme polar opposite of PETA. I think it's our responsibility to breed animals in captivity and to protect species by captive propagation. Just fly over any major city and see what we are doing to the landscape, we are totally destroying it and replacing it with pavement and buildings until it no longer has any native animal life at all. I think it's our responsibility to breed animals to keep these species from going extinct. I also believe that it's our responsibility to keep animals in the best possible conditions so groups like PETA can't emphasize their points by picking out the breeders that don't properly take care of their animals.

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Hope things don't go as bad as they have done in England ... we now only have ONE snake show in the whole country - think it's on twice a year Sept and Nov ..


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