AP T10 - RHP Size

I have my order in place for a AP T10. I was told it'll be about 10-11 weeks before they cut. I went ahead and reached out to bob at PP and gave him the species, tank size, and room temp year round and was told the size below. The room stays about 68-72 year round and is in a main living area of our home. Ali at AP also mentioned she did not think we would need a flexwatt or heat tape to supplement the RHP.

Is this a pretty normal setup for one BP (300-350g) in a T10? I am looking forward to him have a little more room. He loves to explore :)




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That's exactly what I have in both of my T8s and they work great. Shouldn't need the flexwatt with the RHP. Are you having it sent to AP to install? I'd recommend it. They'll cut channels for the cord at no cost, makes for a very easy and clean looking set up. Post pics once you get it up and running!


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I will absolutely have it sent directly to AP. I think they quoted me $98 + $15 shipping but 10% off if paid by check or money order. Can't wait! Here is my little fella doing his best Cobra impression.

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Sounds about right - I have 4 T10's set up almost the same way - no need for heat strips/tape. Good luck - you'll be very happy with Ali and Bob.

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...you'll be very happy with Ali and Bob.

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I'll second that!

I did not opt for a flourescent light set up from AP… I think I'm going to pick up one of the LED strip kits from Lowe's that changes colors and just mount that underneath up top… Has anyone done this and if you have it on the white setting does it light up the tank OK? There will be some times where we want it lit up with good light for display purposes not all the time .... anyone using LED color strips for lighting only? If so does the white light provide good lighting in there or is it just kind of a novelty color change lighting…

I need it any my house stays in the 60s in winter. My snake actually really utilizes the hot spot and I don't regret getting under tank heat at all. The RHP does a fantastic job controlling hte ambient temps in the tank so for me having 2 heat sources was a wise decision. I have a tank from reptile basics that is the same size as the T10.

For anyone not using pro products, the RBI 80 watt RHP is the perfect size and wattage for a T10.

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I did not opt for a flourescent light set up from AP… I think I'm going to pick up one of the LED strip kits from Lowe's that changes colors and just mount that underneath up top… Has anyone done this and if you have it on the white setting does it light up the tank OK? There will be some times where we want it lit up with good light for display purposes not all the time .... anyone using LED color strips for lighting only? If so does the white light provide good lighting in there or is it just kind of a novelty color change lighting…

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That's exactly what I use in my cages. You can get a MUCH cheaper set of lights on eBay or amazon for like $15 though. AP will router a small channel in the top of the cage for an led strip too for $5. Highly recommend that option. I think they can cut either an 8mm or 10mm groove that the lights fit into. Size 3528 LEDs fit the 8mm groove and 5050 fits the 10mm groove FYI, those numbers just refer to the size of the individual LED chips in the strip. I prefer having the color changing LEDs so I can turn on red or blue at night and not disturb my critters too much. They're also dimmable so you can adjust the brightness.
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That looks awesome. I'm going to have AP just do a 10mm groove to be safe. Currently using eco earth as a substrate but not sure I love it. It's very bark-like and gets on the FT rat pup a bit when eating. I wonder if there is a cleaner substrate route. I know a lot just use paper but I'm not fond of the look since the display aspect is a goal for us. Any suggestions? Maybe something a little finer as a substrate? Snake is high piebald so I do like the darker susbstrate as a nice contrast for him. Not dead set on it to be dark, just a casual observation.

I've been using coco chips for the last year, year and a half and really like them aside from one recent issue. I started a thread on that yesterday but I won't derail your thread here. Probably similar to eco earth but I've been using Pro Coco chips. Sure a little gets stuck to feeders from time to time but no real issues on that note. Some folks just put down a sheet of paper or cardboard or something under the snake after the snake coils the rat and that seems to help.
Back to your LED options, if you go for the 10mm groove I'd be sure to get the 5050 size LED strip. It will fit super snug in the channel and have no risk of coming loose and exposing the adhesive back of the strip. My 3528 LEDs have been in the cages for a year and a half with zero issues.

LED's - 5050...something like this?

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Yep! If you have AP cut a 10mm groove that is exactly what you want. You can cut them to any length to fit the groove and they're marked with a scissors at increment that the can be cut. I think you will be quite happy with them


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Bob suggested the same RHP for my T-10 but I went ahead and upgraded to the 80w unit just to be safe. I’d rather have the extra capacity and not need it than the other way around.

I too opted not to go with a UTH, but if it turns out that I need one it’s something I can easily add later.

I didn’t realize they will cut various channel sizes for you. Hmmm.. Now I’m thinking about canceling the LED I ordered from AP and adding my own color changing/dimmable option.



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Yep! If you have AP cut a 10mm groove that is exactly what you want. You can cut them to any length to fit the groove and they're marked with a scissors at increment that the can be cut. I think you will be quite happy with them


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Thanks bro.

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Bob suggested the same RHP for my T-10 but I went ahead and upgraded to the 80w unit just to be safe. I’d rather have the extra capacity and not need it than the other way around.

I too opted not to go with a UTH, but if it turns out that I need one it’s something I can easily add later.

I didn’t realize they will cut various channel sizes for you. Hmmm.. Now I’m thinking about canceling the LED I ordered from AP and adding my own color changing/dimmable option.



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David can you tell me more about the temp environment that your units will be set up in? Is it similar to mine?

• Main living area of home
• temo well maintained - stays 68-70 during GA summers and 70-72 during some cold winter months for us. Not much deviation.

TNK

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David can you tell me more about the temp environment that your units will be set up in? Is it similar to mine?

• Main living area of home
• temo well maintained - stays 68-70 during GA summers and 70-72 during some cold winter months for us. Not much deviation.

TNK

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Upper level spare bedroom, sitting on a wooden desk. Ambient room temperatures are the same as yours, upper 60's to low 70's year around.

I'm not too concerned, worst case scenario I can just add a small space heater into the room but I really don't think I'll need it. My Herpstat has no problem at all maintaining whatever temp I have it locked at with the existing setup. The room get's hit with a full wall of sun most every day, in fact that's the one room in the house I always struggled with cooling off. Go figure.. ;)

Is your concern that you're not going to have enough ambient heat though-out the cage or that you won't have belly heat?

No I was just wondering if I need to upgrade the RHP to something stronger than Bob recommended. Not sure what the cost upgrade is but the whole project is a relatively hefty expense so trying to be frugal where I can..still have to buy a herpstat 2 and a TV Stand for the AP T10.

Bob quoted $98 + $15 shipping for my wattage. I wonder what the cost increase is for the higher wattage RHP?

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No I was just wondering if I need to upgrade the RHP to something stronger than Bob recommended. Not sure what the cost upgrade is but the whole project is a relatively hefty expense so trying to be frugal where I can..still have to buy a herpstat 2 and a TV Stand for the AP T10.

Bob quoted $98 + $15 shipping for my wattage. I wonder what the cost increase is for the higher wattage RHP?

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I just figured I'd rather have it and not need it than the other way around.

Total price out the door shipped directly to Animal Plastics for free installation was $133.90. Mine was the very next size up from what he quoted you, I believe it's 80w?

Edit: Don't forget Craigslist, Nextdoor and FaceBook market place for that TV stand!

On a side note I love AP enclosures, I just hate the back order time. I need to get one last one for my horned viper, for now he's in a showcase cage, but I'm not really a fan of it, so I want to get an AP for him so I can sell that cage.

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On a side note I love AP enclosures, I just hate the back order time. I need to get one last one for my horned viper, for now he's in a showcase cage, but I'm not really a fan of it, so I want to get an AP for him so I can sell that cage.

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Agreed. They are absolutely fantastic to deal with, I just wish they could get the product out faster. A good problem for them I suppose. ;)

Hell, I'd even be willing to pay a reasonable premium for expedited cutting & shipping. Like "Animal Plastics Prime" lol

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Agreed. They are absolutely fantastic to deal with, I just wish they could get the product out faster. A good problem for them I suppose. ;)

Hell, I'd even be willing to pay a reasonable premium for expedited cutting & shipping. Like "Animal Plastics Prime" lol

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I'd be willing to let you pay that premium for me so I can get my cages faster. lol