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  • 12-05-2017, 04:06 AM
    Albert Clark
    2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
    I was happy to see the production from my 2012 pair of Oregon Red Spotted garters. She is a huge female but only gave birth to four babies in this litter. She was gravid last year but unfortunately slugged out. The male was very strong as was the female and the poor production was a mystery. Both went through a 4 month brumation this year at 48F which proved to be part of the reason. She double clutched this year and is gravid again. Hopefully she will have a bigger litter this time around. This is one of the babies.https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...age_987088.jpg
  • 12-05-2017, 06:06 AM
    John1982
    Very nice lookin wiggler! :gj:
  • 12-05-2017, 07:04 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
    Stunning , no doubts


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  • 12-05-2017, 08:18 AM
    savora
    How cute! Best of luck to her next litter!
  • 12-05-2017, 09:23 AM
    C.Marie
    Such a cutie! How much does she weigh ? Good luck with your next litter hopefully you will have fabulous healthy tiny baby noodles in no time ��
  • 12-05-2017, 11:45 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
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    Originally Posted by John1982 View Post
    Very nice lookin wiggler! :gj:

    Thank you John. Yep, wiggler for sure.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    Stunning , no doubts


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    Thanks Z. They really are. I find myself staring at them for hours especially at feeding time.
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    Originally Posted by savora View Post
    How cute! Best of luck to her next litter!

    Thanks savora. I think she is going to have a big litter this time.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C.Marie View Post
    Such a cutie! How much does she weigh ? Good luck with your next litter hopefully you will have fabulous healthy tiny baby noodles in no time ��

    Thank you C. You know what? I have not weighed any of the babies, thanks for reminding me.
  • 12-05-2017, 12:01 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
    This is the female today. 34 inches long and 306 gms. She's 5 years old and a sweetheart as long as she doesn't smell mice. https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...age_190343.jpg
  • 12-05-2017, 12:53 PM
    Kcl
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
    Very cute little wiggleworm, makes me feel like I need more garters...
  • 12-05-2017, 02:29 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
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    Originally Posted by Kcl View Post
    Very cute little wiggleworm, makes me feel like I need more garters...

    Thank you K! For sure to more garters. I have some nice projects going on now. :gj:
  • 12-05-2017, 02:36 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
    What kind of things do you feed them ??


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  • 12-05-2017, 02:48 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
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    What kind of things do you feed them ??


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    Thanks Z. The babies get started on cut xs f/t pink mice mixed with f/t Sally's silverside fish cut and sliced appropriately. I also give them cut up live nightcrawlers dusted with multivitamins. Most of the adults take f/t rat pinks, hairless hopper mice, and Sally's silversides. Also they get fresh market fish like ocean perch and croaker.
  • 12-05-2017, 03:01 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Thanks Z. The babies get started on cut xs f/t pink mice mixed with f/t Sally's silverside fish cut and sliced appropriately. I also give them cut up live nightcrawlers dusted with multivitamins. Most of the adults take f/t rat pinks, hairless hopper mice, and Sally's silversides. Also they get fresh market fish like ocean perch and croaker.

    Sounds fabulous .. yours is certainly the place to be if you're a Garter snake :)


    Mine used to love eating little earth worms as an occasional meal / treat ..

    I had one out on the lounge carpet and it made a bee-line for the plate of meaty dog food in the corner of the room . It had a few decent sized mouthfuls... I did some research afterwards and saw that some breeders of Garter snakes did actually include dog food into their diets !!

    Presumably because it's cheap and convenient??


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  • 12-05-2017, 03:31 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
    Wow, I couldn't feed my garters canned dog food at all. They need a more natural diet over the processed stuff. They get f/t frog legs cut up as a treat at my place. Here's the male Oregon red spotted. He is much more defensive than the female. https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...mage_38740.jpg
  • 12-05-2017, 03:40 PM
    Ax01
    ok i've overlooked Garters. i didn't realize that there are so many beautiful looking species/sub-species. these and the Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis that John posted are so cool.

    we got our fingers and tails crossed for ya Albert. here's to a successful (double) clutch. :gj::snake::snake::gj:
  • 12-05-2017, 03:53 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: 2017 Thamnophis Sirtalis Concinnus...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ax01 View Post
    ok i've overlooked Garters. i didn't realize that there are so many beautiful looking species/sub-species. these and the Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis that John posted are so cool.

    we got our fingers and tails crossed for ya Albert. here's to a successful (double) clutch. :gj::snake::snake::gj:

    Thanks Ax, so many overlook them. They just aren't your backyard reptile. So many morphs and naturally occurring individuals in the Thamnophis genus are amazing.
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