Pics of my leos

k guys, finally got the pics you wanted.....

These are all of the female, which sex is undetirmined, the breeder said when they sexed it it looked like a female, but it is still young, only 2 months old, but it looks like a male to me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/SHTCTB-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/SHTCTB-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...7/SHTCTB-2.jpg
These are all male.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...987/HTCT-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...987/HTCT-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...987/HTCT-1.jpg
just to show a few.

very nice

nice looking leos. you should be able to visually sex them by 2 months of age. it does look like in the second pic that the supposed female may have a bit of a bulge. perhaps you could get a close up of its cloacal area?

Oh too cute. 2 months old huh? How long are they?

If you know what to look for, you can sex them as hatchlings...The pores on the males will be really really small, you'd almost need a magnifying glass to see them.....Also, whoever you got them from should know what temperature they were incubated at, which determines sex. So that should obviously give you a good starting point.

Those are wicked looking leos dude...good find!

Thanks for the compliments guys.. The breeder says give them another month, their still young granted that they are only 2 months old. The supposed female has female-like characteristics, like a slender head and a smaller body, where the male has a large, buldy, broad, head. Yes actually I took some pics for the breeder last night to look at. Here they are:
"Female:"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...TBcloaca-2.jpg
Male:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...malecloaca.jpg

Maybe it's my eyes.. but the Male looks female to me, and the female looks male..

well from those pics i think they are probably sexed accurately. you can clearly see the pre-anal pores on the male but i don't see any on the female. i'd say the male is definitely male, the female most likely female.

Well I don't know anything about sexing leo's....all I know is those are just too cute!

Glad they got there safe and sound.


~~Jo~~

I see two males........females generally don't have those two very distinct bulges behind the vent, and in females, the pores are pretty hard to see or completely non-existant.

They both look male to me. The distance from the anal opening to the first ridge is wide with two somewhat distictive bulges. A female should be a lot thinner in that area.

http://www.reptilecare.com/leopardgender.htm

Now that I look closely... I see the little bulges under both of them.. I'd say both males also...

Thats what I was sayin....comparing to the leo gender page that coyotemoon link to, you got two boys! ouch!

females have bulges they just aren't as big and the cloacal area is shaped slightly differently. look closely. the best way to tell when they are younger is by the presence of enlarged pre-anal pores. you may have to use a magnifying glass to see them clearly.

here is a male:
http://www.mlededee.com/herps/leos/leo_male.jpg
note the enlarged pre-anal pores along with the presence of bulges at the base of the tail.

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here are two shots of a female:
http://www.mlededee.com/herps/leos/leo_female01.jpg

http://www.mlededee.com/herps/leos/leo_female02.jpg
note that there is still somewhat of a bulge but the pre-anal pores are not enlarged. the cloacal opening curves inward more as opposed to being more flat like that of a male.

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that said, from what can be seen in your pics, i do believe that you have a male AND a female.